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hypocritexposer
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I've heard alot of theories... and so far I have heard none that would ever make me side with radical Islamic terrorists and believe that our government would kill thousands of Americans to start a war in a country no one wants...
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Unfortunately Steve, you have already fallen into the trap of thinking that all those that question the official story are trying to say that it was an inside job, where the Government killed Americans.
That's just not the case, but it is effective in shutting down discussion.
There are over 1000 architects and engineers that question the official story of the collapse of building 7, where there were no deaths, no planes, no terrorists.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uor8NhUr_90
Steve, here is a firefighter that was on site, during 911. He explains that National Standards to test for explosives were not followed. He does not say that the Government had anything to do with the explosions, but that it was not investigated to Standards.
They have 118 firefighters and law enforcement officers on tape/video that say they heard explosions.
"Official NIST statements on explosives was that it would have been too difficult to test for."
He is part of the movement that is calling for a new investigation.
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/
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An Appeal to Firefighters, Present and Past from a retired FDNY Lieutenant
Fellow Firefighters, A great tragedy befell our community on September 11, 2001, an unprecedented 343 deaths in the line of duty. As horrible as that toll is, if there were a rational explanation for it, we could accept it and mourn. We all understood the risk we accepted when we took the oath of office, that chance might cut short our lives when we placed ourselves in harm’s way in the public’s service. This is what we are paid for and it is our honor. However, in short, the official explanation of the events of that day are not only insufficient, they are fantastic and cannot bear rational examination. We are asked to believe that on that day three structural steel buildings, which have never before in history collapsed because of fire, fell neatly into their basements at the speed of gravity, their concrete reduced to dust. We are asked to believe that jet fuel (kerosene) can melt steel. We are asked to believe that the most sophisticated air defense system in the world, that responded to sixty-eight emergencies in the year prior to 9-11 in less than twenty minutes allowed aircraft to wander about for up to an hour and a half. We are asked to believe that the steel and titanium components of an aircraft that supposedly hit the Pentagon “evaporated”. There is much, much more if anyone cares to look into it. Trade Tower #7 by itself is the “smoking gun”. Not hit by an aircraft, with only a few relatively small fires, it came down in a classic crimp and implosion, going straight into its basement, something only very precise demolition can accomplish, which takes days if not weeks to prepare. The 9-11 Commission didn’t even mention it, and F.E.M.A. actually stated they DIDN’T KNOW WHY IT COLLAPSED AND LEFT IT AT THAT. Brothers, I know that the implications of the above are hard, almost unthinkable, but the official explanation is utter nonsense, and three hundred and forty three murdered brothers are crying out for justice. Demand a genuine investigation into the events of September 11!
-Anton Vodvarka, Lt. FDNY (ret)
Lt. Vodvarka served on FDNY Ladder Co 26, Rescue Co. 3, Rescue Co. 1, Engine Co. 92, Ladder 82 and Ladder 101. He was awarded the Merit Class 1 award, the Prentice Medal. |
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Steve
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There are over 1000 architects and engineers that question the official story of the collapse of building 7, where there were no deaths, no planes, no terrorists. |
then they didn't look at the changes or design flaws of the building nor the effect of the tower collapse on the front face of the building nor the resulting fires..
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Steve
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| Unfortunately Steve, you have already fallen into the trap of thinking that all those that question the official story are trying to say that it was an inside job, where the Government killed Americans. |
no.. I have not fallen in the trap... every time some one brings up a new theory, I have researched it to an end where the theory falls apart and crumbles..
it is easy to research the claims as they often are the same ones... thermite and building seven... or some version of of the same, or they claim a procedure wasn't followed.. but so far everyone who finds a red or gray paint chip thinks there should be another investigation..
but they all end the same.... 3000 lives lost, and blame it on our government... with out a shred of evidence
and worst of all, they are unwilling to accept the simple truth.. two planes flew into the towers, chaos overwhelmed the local authorities, who despite insurmountable odds did what the could...
and you have the gall to say I fell into a trap.... no I saw the destruction, not just on TV, my brother was in the city at the time, passing thru the trade centers to work.. I lost friends, and I personally know some of those who went to assist..
I can tell you exactly where I was when it happened.. it had a very personnel impact on me.. and if there was one shred of evidence that showed our government was involved, I would follow it..
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