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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you agree that the bill that they are trying to ram down everyone's throats is a bad bill, besides being Unconstitutional?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess this means that nobody leaves the US to go elsewhere for treatments???? If I had a serious illness and my ins. would pay for it I would go to where the top specialist was located for treatment. Could be what Mr. Williams did.
With respect to those taxes,etc. Do you actually think that those that do pay taxes and ins. premiums don't cover a large portion of those that don't pay anything? Kinda like that uninsured motorist section of my truck insurance.



and how is the Health Care reform bill going to fix that situation?

It is the same in Canada. The low income/no income earners are paid for by the taxpayers.

The problem is that you have obama trying to sell Health Care reform by telling people that people are dying in the streets, due to lack of insurance, etc. And then the taxpayer is also on the hook for the debt incurred.

What we are saying, is that what he proposes will not change a dang thing, except make it worse for those that are actually paying for it.

The main reason being discussed for reform in the US is cost. Well we in Canada have a system like that which they are proposing in the US, and it costs us as much as you are paying in the US.


Why do you want reform TSR? What do you think you will gain?


Both parties agree that reform is necessary. We can't continue on the same course. Hopefully(maybe a false hope)maybe we can take back some of those non negotiable things in that 2003 Medicare bill (no negotiation on drug prices, no drugs purchased from foreign countries, etc) at one time on C-spaan I heard the Dem's talking about such changes but its been a while. I haven't heard the Rep.'s say a word about it, maybe they did, but I haven't heard it. Maybe we can correct some past wrongs of both parties with respect to health care and make a little progress for the middle class. Personally I have great insurance but it would have been terrible for my mother(now deceased) who worked in a textile factory for 34yrs to have had to pay for her medications. Fortunately she married a retired military man and everything was paid . Its not that way for everyone. A little progress now, a little progress in the future. It could happen with some honest people in Congress (if there is such a thing).


It's not that way here in Canada. Our system does not cover meds, eyes, dental and a whole list of other things the Obamacare is suppose to cover. Think of this our system that doesn't cover a whole list of things Obamacare will cover costs an estimated $173.9 billion/year for our population. So how can Obama cover your population with all the extras in his plan with just under $900 billion? Could this possably be why 81% of Americans KNOW it is going to cost more than Obama claims it will cost? And if waste is a hugh problem in Medicare why not REFORM IT by clean it up before implimenting another one that will bankrupt the US?

And as far as Williams leaving Canada for treatment. He is a Premier of a Province not just anyone. He is in charge of Health care for the citizens of his province but yet he doesn't truth that system with "HIS HEART". SO WHY SHOULD ANYONE ELSE TRUST IT WITH THEIR HEART???


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