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katessky Member

Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 1 Location: Falcon, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:21 pm Post subject: blue heelers |
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I just took in a blue heeler, 9 months old, for an ill friend who has no time for him. He is very smart. I do not know how to train a heeler. I do help some local ranchers with cattle gathering and sorting. How can I train my dog to be a help, and not a hinderance in the process? Know of any good books, or are their often local ranchers that would train such a dog?
Kate
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gcreekrch Rancher

Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 8506 Location: west chilcotin bc
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to say this pretty blunt as I am very passionate about this issue.
If you are asked to help at a ranch the best thing you can do with an untrained dog is leave it at home or locked in the truck. There is nothing more maddening to a cowman to have a dog in the wrong place at the right time and screw up the days works.
If you have a friend who is a dog trainer and will help you out on a one on one basis that is the direction I would take. If not, and you don't have your own stock to train your dog on, keep it as a pet.
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per Rancher

Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 6090 Location: SW Alberta
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Good advice, I had a Boarder Collie that was a pretty good cow dog but every once in a while it freelanced for the neighbor. Not good for relationships. Not quite the same but bringing a less than perfect dog could have the same results.
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cowpuncher76 Member

Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Posts: 28 Location: The Intermountain West
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I know guys who'll rope your dog and drag him a couple miles (all in the interest of teaching him to lead, of course) if he starts trying to "help" uninvited........
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WyomingRancher Rancher

Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 1615 Location: Wyoming
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tta stockdogs Member

Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 109 Location: West Central Illinois
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Another book that may help ya a bit....Training and Working Dogs by Scott Lithgow. Before ever try to train/work stock be sure to have a a good solid recall, down., and that'll do or you mite as well tie your dog up at the house and work the stock by yourself.
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Kato Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 2519 Location: Manitoba - At the end of the road
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Faster horses Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 18920 Location: SE MT
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Pertnear Member

Joined: 28 Feb 2010 Posts: 51
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| A dog is like a good piece of equpment .find the brake and know how it works ,also the park brake. If you don't. Have um leave him home. You got to have some kind of an ideal of what you want it to do. It also helps if you are a little smarter then the dog !!!!!!
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OldDog/NewTricks Rancher

Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 3194 Location: The Dam End of Silicon Valley
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Faster horses wrote: |
I agree with the others here. For one thing, it's amazing what a
dog can screw up and it's also very dangerous to take a dog
around cows that are not 'dog broke.' |
Right as a Rule of Thumb But a good knowledgeable dog can soon quite their Fears..
People need to think about the type of work they want a dog to do-
there are two styles of Working Dogs - "HEADERS or HEARD Dogs" and "HEALERS or DRIVE Dogs".
"HEADERS or HEARD Dogs" are best used at gather animals in an open field
and "HEALERS or DRIVE Dogs" are best used in Corrals, Roping Arenas, Feed Lots - - they want to DRIVE animals away fro you.
At one time we use our Heard dog to gather cattle at the top of the ranch - then would let DRIVE dogs take them the 2 miles to the corrals at the home place.
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Tap Duncan Member

Joined: 10 Apr 2010 Posts: 3 Location: NM
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I've had 3 blue heelers, they have a mind all their own, which needs to be focused. They are as smart as a 5 year old child upon maturity, and they once held the Guiness Book of World Records for longest living dog, at 35 years. It's not a pet, per say, it's a long commitment. They need a job. Period. Anything. If it's just walking to the mailbox, well, that's ok with them. I also would take my pups out into the pasture, and run away from them, that seemed to instill the heeling/herding instinct in them early on. I love these dogs. Also, if it doesn't have a Bentley mark, it's a cross breed, and you can expect problems in behaviour and performence, like obedience and focus. Hope it all works out.
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