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Aaron Member

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 527 Location: Stratton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:20 am Post subject: All Ag subsidies to end in 2013 |
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WTO agrees draft on farm reform
Sunday, December 18, 2005 Posted: 0842 GMT
HONG KONG, China -- A final draft of a World Trade Organization agreement has proposed Sunday that all nations end agricultural export subsidies by 2013 in a breakthrough that paves the way for an agreement from the six-day talks, The Associated Press reports.
The revised draft, coming after all-night negotiations between delegates of key member nations, also calls on wealthy nations to allow duty-free and quota-free privileges to at least 97 percent of products exported by the so-called least developed countries by 2008, AP says.
In addition, the draft retained an earlier proposal that rich countries eliminate all export subsidies on cotton in 2006, AP reported.
Earlier Sunday, the EU had suggested 2013 as the possible date to end the subsidies. Brazil, the United States and some developing countries maintained that year was too far away, and would rather end the subsidies by 2010.
"We've been under intense pressure this week to agree on an end date for phasing out our export subsidies, and we came up with a proposal last night for 2013," said Michael Mann, EU spokesman for agriculture and rural development.
Sunday is the sixth and last day of the WTO's ministerial-level meetings in Hong Kong. Delegates for 149 countries have gathered in Hong Kong.
Developing countries have demanded that richer nations lower trade barriers.
The talks have been marked by debate between the EU and the United States.
"We put on the table, not just the most aggressive proposal in terms of cutting subsidies, but the only proposal on the table that actually eliminates subsidies," U.S. trade representative Rob Portman told CNN.
While the negotiators struggled, disagreement also brewed in the street outside the talks, in the worst protests Hong Kong has seen in decades.
After warning hundreds of protesters paralyzing the city center for hours to leave the streets outside the talks, riot police moved in early Sunday to disperse the crowd.
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feeder Member

Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 951 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| I would like to hear what others have to comment on this agreement. The pros and the cons. I have mixed feelings on the deal. Thanks
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Bill Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 2067 Location: GWN
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| feeder wrote: |
| I would like to hear what others have to comment on this agreement. The pros and the cons. I have mixed feelings on the deal. Thanks |
Unfortunately it's a long, long ways from being a deal yet.
Last edited by Bill on Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:48 am; edited 1 time in total |
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PORKER Rancher

Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 4171 Location: Michigan-Florida
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:41 am Post subject: How about this Angle? |
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Well for one,No Agricultural Export Subsidies by 2013 will level the playing field for the farmers and ranchers of the world to the point that the only difference is the value of each country's money and services for the same quality of beef.
Cheap money countries will win hands down because of the lower costs of brokage and the costs of transportion ,labor , production and that countrys infrastructure costs.
What this means is that if I can produce the same beef you raise for $0.30 cents a pound packaged,I am the lowest cost producer and everone else is high priced unless the costs of brokage and the costs of transportion ,labor , production and that countrys infrastructure costs reverese the costs and make me the most expensive beef on the planet.
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frenchie Member

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 564 Location: nw manitoba
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Heard that story before.Be nice but will Never happen...
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Oldtimer Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 24735 Location: Northeast Montana
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| frenchie wrote: |
| Heard that story before.Be nice but will Never happen... |
frenchie- We finally agree on something....
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frenchie Member

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 564 Location: nw manitoba
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Oldtimer Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 24735 Location: Northeast Montana
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Cattleman Member

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 117
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Whooopdy doooo, so what....got rid of a few export subsidies..... how many programs being used even fit under the "export subsidy" title?? What about all the other income and price support programs, and all the other government programs to help agriculture.......those are the ones that will hurt....but will hurt even more to lose....as all the assets in agriculture would be revalued.....at a very low level.....pure skeptic here.
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