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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Fielding says he went back to NCBA's charter and found that among their guiding principles are free enterprise, limited government and consumer focus. "

And NCBA backs the USDA on this one? Agman? SH? MRJ?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: Creekstone Chief Levels Harsh Reply with quote

[quote="agman"]
HAY MAKER wrote:
Creekstone Chief Levels Harsh
Criticism At USDA, NCBA On BSE

Response...This article failed to disclose that Fielding got shot down by a well known Kansas cattle feeder to the delight of most of the attendees who tired of his rambling and complaining. Whose fault is it that that Creekstone became too heavily dependent upon exports to Japan? Is that not the same claim and error that many R-calf supporters have accused Canada of? That is, relying to heavily on exports. Have a great day.


I wonder how many talks he gave where he wasn't "shot down? My money is that he was usually well-received.

Maybe the USDA wouldn't have to go thru all the bother of talking with Japan, Korea, etal if the US wasn't relying so heavily on exports as well? Maybe you could of retired years ago if you weren't so heavily dependent on clients? Wink


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Creekstone Chief Levels Harsh Reply with quote

[quote="Sandhusker"][quote="agman"][quote="HAY MAKER"]Creekstone Chief Levels Harsh
Criticism At USDA, NCBA On BSE


I wonder how many talks he gave where he wasn't "shot down? My money is that he was usually well-received.

Maybe the USDA wouldn't have to go thru all the bother of talking with Japan, Korea, etal if the US wasn't relying so heavily on exports as well? Maybe you could of retired years ago if you weren't so heavily dependent on clients? Wink[/quote]

Response: I expect at an R-Calf convention he would be cheered. Blame, accuse etcetera is their MO. How about the hypocrisy of blaming Canada for its reliance on exports and overlooking that fact when Creekstone is involved?

You don't know that I could have retired years ago if I elected to do so. I do what is reasonable to satisfy my clients. I do not compromise on the unreasonable.

You keep talking yourself into the same old circle. Test because the customer wants testing. Why test when the test proves nothing? What high risk counties test all cattle? Have a gret day.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandhusker: "Who are we to tell them what is legitimate for their country and what isn't?"

Who is telling Japan what is legitimate?

USDA is simply saying that 100% testing is not legitimate testing because prions are not detectable in animals younger than 20 months of age.
Japan can believe what they want.


Sandhusker: "So tell me again why they have to conform to our standards?"

They don't have to conform to our standards nor do we have to conform to theirs (100% testing).


Sandhusker: "Why do you keep ignoring Creekstone's comments, "We are not saying it is BSE-free" Why don't you interpret that statement for us? It's a very simple statement"

That doesn't change the fact that the testing creates the perception of food safety and that perception is wrong.


Sandhusker: "When did it become the USDA's role to have anything to do with advertising? That is not their job nor jurisdiction."

USDA has always had a role in false advertising. Try selling "organic" beef that were fed antibiotics and see what happens.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agman, "Why test when the test proves nothing?"

For the same reason you allow hormone free beef when the hormone level is virtually nothing to begin with. For the same reason you allow organic beef when organic adds nothing.

Really, Agman, what difference does it make? We want to sell to Japan, they want tested beef and will pay for it. They know exactly what they're asking for, why not provide it? How can the USDA and NCBA tell us that we need to be aware of what our customers want and then deny Creekstone to provide exactly that because "it's not based on science"?


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