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Mike
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Joined: 10 Feb 2005
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Location: Montgomery, Al
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Creekstone's (and other smaller packers) offering to test can in no way be creating deception. They are simply offering to give the customer what they request. That is what "Free Enterprise" is all about.
They cannot, no way in hell, be creating any type of "PERCEPTION" by offering to do for a customer what they do for themselves. You seem to forget that Japan tests every animal slaughtered. It's their law, and it includes each country who has had a case of BSE.
When you get an offer from a buyer to buy your calves requesting that all vaccinations be included is the exact same thing. If you sell to him under his provisions you are giving him what he wants in return.
The USDA has made a big mistake in BSE testing by saying that it is not about "Food Safety" when it is an important guideline by OIE's standards.
In fact "Public Health" is the number one priority for detecting BSE!
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~SH~
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Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Posts: 5427
Location: South Western SD
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There is a big difference between providing vaccines that have value and providing BSE testing that doesn't have value.
If 100% BSE testing did not create the "PERCEPTION" of safety, there would be no reason to do it.
I see it the same as false advertising.
You see it differently and we will never agree on this issue.
~SH~
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Murgen
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Joined: 12 Feb 2005
Posts: 2117
Location: Ontario
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| Hey Hat, did your Sales barn owner tell you that you could take the day off school?
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Bill
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Joined: 10 Feb 2005
Posts: 2067
Location: GWN
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"Sandhusker is deceptive because...."
1. He twists statements to conform to what he wants them to say.
2. Supports R-CULT's lies about the safety of Canadian beef.
3. Calls everything into question he doesn't agree with rather than providing facts to support his position to the contrary.
4. Supports Creekstone's deception by their creating a "PERCEPTION" of food safety with 100% testing that would reveal nothing.
5. You support R-CULT and you admit that they only present the half of the story that supports their position which is deceptive.
That's just a start.
I'm glad you are torked off. Maybe you'll take a harder look at what you support and how you support it.
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I don't have all the "fancy" numbers you have but my sale barn owner says that when they say the border is going to open the price goes down, and when they say the border is gonna stay shut the price goes up. Now I'm not a math major but my sale barn owner told me I'll get payed more as long as the border is shut. I think he's right, what do you think Scott? |
I have to when you say "MY SALE BARN OWNER SAYS".
Most sale barn owners would lie to their mother on a stack of bibles if they could make a buck out of it.
Better find a much more credible source than some sale barn owner.
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Kato
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Joined: 10 Feb 2005
Posts: 2560
Location: Manitoba - At the end of the road
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Bull Burger
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Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Posts: 212
Location: Fruited Plains of western SD
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| I don't have all the "fancy" numbers you have but my sale barn owner says that when they say the border is going to open the price goes down, and when they say the border is gonna stay shut the price goes up. Now I'm not a math major but my sale barn owner told me I'll get payed more as long as the border is shut. I think he's right, what do you think Scott? |
Hat, your sale barn owner (SBO) if better off with CA imports stopped. He doesn't get commission dollars on the CA live cattle or boxed beef. That's why the LMA started R-CALF. LMA members con customers into sending money to R-CALF to stop CA imports, along with constant daily preaching against imports on market reports.
What they don't tell you is the extra money per head the exports make the producer, even though it trickles back through their auctions. Japan spent $1.7 billion on US beef in 2003. Go ahead and divide that by the number of Beef cows in the US.
SBO's are like the little kid who doesn't have a friend unless he creates an emergency. LMA creates customers by creating emergencies, then screaming "We're all in this together".
All that said, I think sale barns provide a service our industry. Are they market guru's, beef industry guru's? No, they provide a service to cattle producers.
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