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Oldtimer
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| Big Muddy rancher wrote: |
| frasercattleco wrote: |
| NAFTA, no checkoff, awnser your question Hat? |
I think your wrong. Checkoff is collected on all imports. That is why Check-off advertises all beef and not just US beef. |
Big Muddy- Not trying to argue--I agree checkoff is supposed to be collected on all imports-- But for info, and maybe if you don't know, someone else does-- does immigration collect the checkoff? Reason I'm wondering- is that I'm hearing many stories about cattle in non-brand inspected areas that are being sold private treaty- like directly to a feedlot that are having no checkoff collected... If these cattle are going directly to an Iowa feedlot- who collects the checkoff? Or if the border opens and they go by sealed container truck from Saskatchewan to a Nebraska packer for slaughter?
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Bull Burger
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Location: Fruited Plains of western SD
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| frasercattleco wrote: |
Ever hear of a mistake, aberration, bloomer, blooper, blunder, boner, boo-boo, bungle, confusion, delusion, erratum, false move, false step, fault, faux pas, flub, fluff, gaffe, goof, howler, illusion, inaccuracy, inadvertence, lapse, misapplication, misapprehension, miscalculation, misconception, misinterpretation, misjudgment, misprint, misstatement, misstep, misunderstanding, muddle, neglect, omission, overestimation, oversight, slight, slip, slip-up, snafu, solecism, trip, typo, underestimation.
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Just on the R-CALF press releases........................ 
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Big Muddy rancher
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Location: Big Muddy valley
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| frasercattleco wrote: |
Ever hear of a mistake, aberration, bloomer, blooper, blunder, boner, boo-boo, bungle, confusion, delusion, erratum, false move, false step, fault, faux pas, flub, fluff, gaffe, goof, howler, illusion, inaccuracy, inadvertence, lapse, misapplication, misapprehension, miscalculation, misconception, misinterpretation, misjudgment, misprint, misstatement, misstep, misunderstanding, muddle, neglect, omission, overestimation, oversight, slight, slip, slip-up, snafu, solecism, trip, typo, underestimation.
Does that awnser your question? |
Sounds like something from R-CALF. 
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Kato
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Bull Burger
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| My father in law lives in a no brand area and they don't collect checkoff when sold private treaty. This is the norm in their area. I wonder what percentage of cattle that aren't sold @ a sale barn get checkoff collected on them? |
You have to get a hold of the state beef council because the brand inspectors don't collect it here either . I don't know anybody that doesn't send it in because the penalty is steep.
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Big Muddy rancher
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Location: Big Muddy valley
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Oldtimer wrote: |
| Big Muddy rancher wrote: |
| frasercattleco wrote: |
| NAFTA, no checkoff, awnser your question Hat? |
I think your wrong. Checkoff is collected on all imports. That is why Check-off advertises all beef and not just US beef. |
Big Muddy- Not trying to argue--I agree checkoff is supposed to be collected on all imports-- But for info, and maybe if you don't know, someone else does-- does immigration collect the checkoff? Reason I'm wondering- is that I'm hearing many stories about cattle in non-brand inspected areas that are being sold private treaty- like directly to a feedlot that are having no checkoff collected... If these cattle are going directly to an Iowa feedlot- who collects the checkoff? Or if the border opens and they go by sealed container truck from Saskatchewan to a Nebraska packer for slaughter? |
When we sell fats in canada the check-off is collected at the plant. I would imagine it would be the same in the US unless it is collected at the border when the cattle are inspected.
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Oldtimer
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| Big Muddy rancher wrote: |
| Oldtimer wrote: |
| Big Muddy rancher wrote: |
| frasercattleco wrote: |
| NAFTA, no checkoff, awnser your question Hat? |
I think your wrong. Checkoff is collected on all imports. That is why Check-off advertises all beef and not just US beef. |
Big Muddy- Not trying to argue--I agree checkoff is supposed to be collected on all imports-- But for info, and maybe if you don't know, someone else does-- does immigration collect the checkoff? Reason I'm wondering- is that I'm hearing many stories about cattle in non-brand inspected areas that are being sold private treaty- like directly to a feedlot that are having no checkoff collected... If these cattle are going directly to an Iowa feedlot- who collects the checkoff? Or if the border opens and they go by sealed container truck from Saskatchewan to a Nebraska packer for slaughter? |
When we sell fats in canada the check-off is collected at the plant. I would imagine it would be the same in the US unless it is collected at the border when the cattle are inspected. |
i don't think the packers pay checkoff to slaughter (could be wrong)- but the point of ownership change would be in Canada--so immigration should collect.....
I've been a checkoff backer from day one- but since the suit came up I've had many thruout the country tell me of the inequities of the collection on it- Always looking for first hand info.....As a brand inspector, it has been one of my heartaches- when the checkoff people call you and they are missing $1000 checkoff that you put on the paperwork- and you have to run it down and get canceled checks and prove to them that they cashed it and just misplaced it--- until you show them, they make you feel like a thief......
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