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Cal
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: Kidnapped Christian Peacemaker team has no thanks Reply with quote
stevec wrote:
Cal wrote:


U.S. and British military personnel risked their lives to rescue three hostages


Actually, it is the other way around. The peacemakers risked thier lives to save everyone who thought fighting was a solution. They walked onto the battlefield unarmed to talk about finding a solution. (Quite of few people have suggested that I try the same thing.)

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Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.


I'd only maybe suggested that you do the same because you may be kidnapped, but actually I'd hate to have the military risk their lives and waist their time to save you, especially since you don't think much of them anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why don't you take your, make love not war, peace loving, tree huggin hippy ass over there and teach those degenerates about "living in peace and finding better ways to share the Earth's bounty".

You start over there and if it works then I'll start preaching it over here.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm "bent out of shape"?? Ha Ha Ha, HMW is such a drama queen sometimes!

Say what? Huh?
How does questioning your irritation make me a drama queen??

And regardless of when they issued their appreciation, it was definately before Mr. Goldstein published his article.
(their addenda that said, We are grateful to the soldiers who risked their lives to free Jim, Norman and Harmeet. etc, etc. was issued on the 23rd of March whereas that articles was printed on the 27th.)

I can understand getting upset had his article been accurate. But like I said, less than two minutes worth of double checking showed that it was not.

I guess I'm just not sure what you're trying to prove here...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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One of the complaints about terrorists is that they are plotting war during peacetime, but that is exactly what the military and the military-industrial complex does, too. There are lots of DOD jobs in Massachusetts and New England generally.

The way I look at it, they go to work everyday building death. You guys go to work growing food, which is better, but if you think that plotting how to kill "better" everyday is a good use of time, then you are pretty much on the same wavelength as them.

My wavelength is in the opposite direction. I am more interested in our living in peace and finding better ways to share the Earth's bounty and leaving a more loving and kind world for our children's children to experience.


Someones living in la la land..............I'll give you three guesses who it is and the first two don't count.

Geez where do these people come from...........
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
passin thru wrote:
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One of the complaints about terrorists is that they are plotting war during peacetime, but that is exactly what the military and the military-industrial complex does, too. There are lots of DOD jobs in Massachusetts and New England generally.

The way I look at it, they go to work everyday building death. You guys go to work growing food, which is better, but if you think that plotting how to kill "better" everyday is a good use of time, then you are pretty much on the same wavelength as them.

My wavelength is in the opposite direction. I am more interested in our living in peace and finding better ways to share the Earth's bounty and leaving a more loving and kind world for our children's children to experience.


Someones living in la la land..............I'll give you three guesses who it is and the first two don't count.

Geez where do these people come from...........



Massachusetts.
( Embarassed SP?)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
theHiredMansWife wrote:
Cal wrote:
I'm "bent out of shape"?? Ha Ha Ha, HMW is such a drama queen sometimes!

Say what? Huh?
How does questioning your irritation make me a drama queen??

And regardless of when they issued their appreciation, it was definately before Mr. Goldstein published his article.
(their addenda that said, We are grateful to the soldiers who risked their lives to free Jim, Norman and Harmeet. etc, etc. was issued on the 23rd of March whereas that articles was printed on the 27th.)

I can understand getting upset had his article been accurate. But like I said, less than two minutes worth of double checking showed that it was not.

I guess I'm just not sure what you're trying to prove here...
How are you so sure I'm bent out of shape or irritated unless you're an imaginative drama queen? BTW, while you were so busy double clicking you could have checked that this article was first on the web on the 25th and probably written and in print before these Polyanna do-gooders decided that they'd better decide to thank their rescuers, which I doubt like hell they would have done if they hadn't had a little prompting. Shame on these people for putting our soldiers and allied troops in harms way to go to the trouble of rescuing them during a time of war when they shouldn't have been there in the first place. Were they able to even speak the language?

http://newsbyus.com/more.php?id=2702_0_1_90_M
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So you're not bent out of shape or irritated.
What was your purpose for starting this thread, then? Say what?
Especially when you go on to say, "Shame on these people." Drama queen or not, that seems pretty indicative of someone who is irritated.


Not so?




BTW... the 25th is still two days after the statement of gratitude was issued. It still seems abundantly clear the author of your article had an ax to grind.

I think you're grasping at straws here, Cal.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
theHiredMansWife wrote:
So you're not bent out of shape or irritated.
What was your purpose for starting this thread, then? Say what?
Especially when you go on to say, "Shame on these people." Drama queen or not, that seems pretty indicative of someone who is irritated.


Not so?




BTW... the 25th is still two days after the statement of gratitude was issued. It still seems abundantly clear the author of your article had an ax to grind.

I think you're grasping at straws here, Cal.
No, I think you're grasping at straws here trying to discredit a columnist, and if you're not careful you'll have your broom picked clean and end up walking. Laughing

An article is first posted on the internet on the 25th and you're certain it was written and submitted on the 24th? Besides CPT website being edited? You've got nothing but a burning desire to always have the last word.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cal wrote:
theHiredMansWife wrote:
So you're not bent out of shape or irritated.
What was your purpose for starting this thread, then? Say what?
Especially when you go on to say, "Shame on these people." Drama queen or not, that seems pretty indicative of someone who is irritated.


Not so?




BTW... the 25th is still two days after the statement of gratitude was issued. It still seems abundantly clear the author of your article had an ax to grind.

I think you're grasping at straws here, Cal.
No, I think you're grasping at straws here trying to discredit a columnist, and if you're not careful you'll have your broom picked clean and end up walking. Laughing

An article is first posted on the internet on the 25th and you're certain it was written and submitted on the 24th? Besides CPT website being edited? You've got nothing but a burning desire to always have the last word.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Criminey.


Another quick Google search revealed this:
http://www.indcatholicnews.com/cptdisp123.html
Norman Kember, Harmeet Singh Sooden and Jim Loney were immediately grateful to those who set them free. The London Times reported a local security official noting Norman Kember's thanks. Pat Kember thanked all involved. Family friend and fellow activist Bruce Kent relayed CPT's "unqualified gratitude" on BBC Radio 4. James Loney has issued his own statement of thanks. Christian Peacemaker Teams in Chicago and Toronto put out two statements on the same day as the release of their three colleagues. The one in the evening was specifically about their gratitude and regretted any impression to the contrary due to misinformed comments from some quarters. CPT spokespeople reiterated their thanks constantly.

Your columnist is well and truly discredited, and all it took was a few minutes on Google.
Now, I'm sure you're going to come up with another excuse why this can't possibly be true, but then that would define the phrase, "grasping at straws.". Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
theHiredMansWife wrote:
Criminey.


Another quick Google search revealed this:
http://www.indcatholicnews.com/cptdisp123.html
Norman Kember, Harmeet Singh Sooden and Jim Loney were immediately grateful to those who set them free. The London Times reported a local security official noting Norman Kember's thanks. Pat Kember thanked all involved. Family friend and fellow activist Bruce Kent relayed CPT's "unqualified gratitude" on BBC Radio 4. James Loney has issued his own statement of thanks. Christian Peacemaker Teams in Chicago and Toronto put out two statements on the same day as the release of their three colleagues. The one in the evening was specifically about their gratitude and regretted any impression to the contrary due to misinformed comments from some quarters. CPT spokespeople reiterated their thanks constantly.

Your columnist is well and truly discredited, and all it took was a few minutes on Google.
Now, I'm sure you're going to come up with another excuse why this can't possibly be true, but then that would define the phrase, "grasping at straws.". Wink
More BS from your link: Not unreasonably they say that it is unfair to accuse them of requiring others to risk their lives when this is manifestly not so. They have no control over the actions of bodies like the army, the intelligence services and the FCO. For this reason, CPT worked with diplomats over the release issue, but not military personnel. CPT workers are prepared to risk their own lives where necessary, but they are scrupulously careful not to imperil others ­ even to their own cost.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
k_ranch wrote:
Cal wrote:
theHiredMansWife wrote:
So you're not bent out of shape or irritated.
What was your purpose for starting this thread, then? Say what?
Especially when you go on to say, "Shame on these people." Drama queen or not, that seems pretty indicative of someone who is irritated.


Not so?




BTW... the 25th is still two days after the statement of gratitude was issued. It still seems abundantly clear the author of your article had an ax to grind.

I think you're grasping at straws here, Cal.
No, I think you're grasping at straws here trying to discredit a columnist, and if you're not careful you'll have your broom picked clean and end up walking. Laughing

An article is first posted on the internet on the 25th and you're certain it was written and submitted on the 24th? Besides CPT website being edited? You've got nothing but a burning desire to always have the last word.


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