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Charolais in South Dakota...who brought em?

Postby TXTibbs » Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:53 pm

Who brought the first Charolais cattle into South Dakota? Anyone know? My family had them started in the late 50's. Just curious to opinions!

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Postby Andy » Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:48 pm

Lindskovs have had them for a long time. I'll have to ask Les this weekend when they started.

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Postby Juan » Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:56 pm

I think Haines and Duprel were the first in S.D.
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Postby Mike » Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:51 pm

Andy wrote:Lindskovs have had them for a long time. I'll have to ask Les this weekend when they started.


I think Les told me he got some back in the late 50's too. His dad was running sheep and he wasn't too fond of them. You buying anything Andy? I might call in a bid on the phone? Might.
If you're at the sale check out the little Rio heifer I sent up this week to Abbey, Brent's daughter, for show. I'm rather proud of her. She'll be around the house somewhere with another, bigger, show heifer.

Arnold Wienk has had chars for a while too.
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Postby TXTibbs » Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:04 pm

Wienk Charolais was established in 1958 with the introduction of one Charolais bull into a herd of Hereford cows.

http://www.wienkcharolais.com/index.html


My family was very similar except I believe grandpa bought Pure bred bulls and begun a strategic breeding operation with angus cattle. I believe it takes like 6 or 7 crosses back to back to end up with a pure bred calf. Of course you'll have to use atleast two bulls to prevent im-breeding. I know back in the day when grandpa bought these bulls they were sorta really just an experiment and very new to South Dakota....some said they were a joke, and that their pink hides would never survive the South Dakota summers and sun/snow reflection in the winter.

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Postby Mike » Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:18 pm

TX, we can have purebreds at 31/32. It takes five generations, I'm pretty sure. Let's see, 1/2 then 3/4 then 7/8 then 15/16 then 31/32. Yep.
There are very few fullbloods because the registry was changed around so much back in the 60's & 70's.

Chars were brought into Texas first from Mexico. Back in the late 1800's or early 1900's I believe.
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Postby la4angus » Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:21 pm

Mike wrote:
Chars were brought into Texas first from Mexico. Back in the late 1800's or early 1900's I believe.

I may be mistaken but I think it was in the early 1940's.
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Postby Mike » Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:36 pm

la4angus wrote:
Mike wrote:
Chars were brought into Texas first from Mexico. Back in the late 1800's or early 1900's I believe.

I may be mistaken but I think it was in the early 1940's.


You are closer than I was! From the Charolais website:
In the mid-1940s an outbreak of Hoof and Mouth Disease occurred in Mexico. As a result, a treaty between the United States, Canada and Mexico set up a permanent quarantine against cattle coming into any of these countries from Europe or any country where the disease was known to exist.

The first Charolais came into the United States from Mexico in 1934. From that beginning, the breed grew rapidly. Wherever they were shown, the big white cattle commanded instant attention.
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Postby la4angus » Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:17 pm

There was some guys from La. that smuggled some into the U.S. and one spent time in the pen for taking the fall for it. I don't know all the details, but I think it was a Cajun guy from Kaplan, La.
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Postby Andy » Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:40 pm

MIke, I am going to buy bull, i think, seems like all the bulls i really want a lot of other ppl like also. What bull is it that your interested in, if you don't mind shareing? I am sure if Abbey is proud of that heifer she will want to show it to me. I sure do like all the Rio Blanco calves that i have seen. I used Rio Bravo last year and the few calves that i have on the ground look awsome.

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Postby Mike » Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:03 pm

Andy wrote:MIke, I am going to buy bull, i think, seems like all the bulls i really want a lot of other ppl like also. What bull is it that your interested in, if you don't mind shareing? I am sure if Abbey is proud of that heifer she will want to show it to me. I sure do like all the Rio Blanco calves that i have seen. I used Rio Bravo last year and the few calves that i have on the ground look awsome.


Andy, I am looking at lot #99. He might be a little pricey though. I need another outcross bull. If I had to pick a negative on Abbey's calf, she might turn out a little "leggy". Tell her I said Hi.
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Postby Andy » Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:25 pm

99 is on my list also, he looks like a good bull. Do very many of your rio Blancos have a lot of leg? The ones we have here are very deep and wide.


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