...AND . .uncontrollable brush fires and 'stunted' mature trees. That is what is the trouble with the forest fires here in the WEST - - many species of Conifer (pine) need fire to open the pine cones for seed germination. Too much "Smokey the "BARE". I hope the 'tree huggers' are going to eventually get some common sense. - - - -But don't hold your breath! They protect and protect and protect and refuse to let nature naturally thin out the undergrowth - - and then- - - -WHA-A-A-M-M-M! - -Just like Yellowstone several years ago. You are doing it right, George. Beautiful, too!George wrote:My daughter and I ( she is almost 16 now) love to take my Special edition Gold wing and just ride the winding tree lined roads of southern Indiana. Of the 3 hundred acres I own about 50 of it is pastured woods - - - I keep them thinned with a bull dozer and leave the good trees with sunny grass areas between. It is really beautiful looking at registered Charolais in that setting - - - I will breed to an Angus bull this year to try to break into the 4H calve market as the parents seem willing to pay any price for a "smoky" calf. It would probably break your heart watching me take trees out but an uncontroled area becomes nothing but a breeding ground for deer and coyotes.
AH-HAH! NOW you are breeding REAL Heterosis into your herd!! Lee Leachman has some incredible results with his Balancers, and Phenotype and Genotype of those crosses will pop you eyes open! These cleaned up calves will really make a statement, Hanta Yo. Your steer results are marvelous, and so will your next calf crop! Good for you! If I sound enthusiastic for you - - it's because I am!Hanta Yo wrote:I appreciate everyone's point of view, I just plain like to share. Here is some data on a Gelbvieh steer out of a TC Stockman daughter:
QG: CH, BFT: .19, RE: 15.6, HCW: 959, YG: 2, Profit: $231.00
CH X on Gelbvieh, I agree is crossing big on big, better to cross on Angus.
On all our steers Angus sired were 92% CH, 28% YG 2
GV sired were 50% CH, 80% YG 1 & 2
CH sired were 69% CH, 70% YG 1 & 2
We've been trying to breed Angus on Gelbvieh and Gelbvieh on Angus and used Chars to clean up. Got rid of the Chars tho. Now we're cleaning up with balancers.