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Daughter's Horse!!!

Postby Northern Rancher » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:09 am

My 16 year old has some younger horses to start so wants to sell her 9 year old mare. She's a granddaughter of poco bueno and has lots of other old breeding in her pedigree. A real nice zebre dun -she's raised a colt too. She's dead quiet too. If anybody wants to look up her pedigree her registered name is Sandy Poco Tab-3461011.

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Postby alabama » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:36 am

I am glad you posted that. It reminds me that I have been considering buying a horse to help me work my cows. While I rode my first horse and took lessons in horseback riding when I was in the third grade and have ridden off and on every since I am still no wrangler. I can ride well enough to keep from falling off and make the horse go the way I want but as far as working cows with one, I am lost. If I could find an old horse that has worked cows all his life that can teach me a thing or two then it might be worth it. Yes, I may try it if I can find a horse that I can let have his head and he can pin a cow.
Any suggestions form you wranglers out there.

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Postby Northern Rancher » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:48 am

The worst horse is still better than the best quad-find yourself an old gelding that is dead broke and give it a try-but don't expect to buy him for meat price-drives me crazy guys have a 8,000 quad but want a broke to death saddle horse for 800.

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Postby alabama » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:51 am

Well Just how much should he cost?

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Postby Northern Rancher » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:56 am

I wouldn't sell any of our good solid ranch horses for less than 3,000.

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Postby CattleAnnie » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:03 pm

Good broke geldings start at $2500.00 around here (and more depending on the seller and the horse). If it's been awhile since you've ridden, look around for one in his early teens. By then they should know their business.

A good saddle horse is worth his weight in gold. A bad one will at least make some glue.

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Postby Faster horses » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:02 pm

NR, is that $3000 American or Canadian. LOL!!

Seriously, do you have some nice, quiet ranch geldings that you would sell? There seems to be a shortage of them around here--the good dependable ones anyway. How many would you sell, what are their age and size?

Maybe you were just making a passing remark. If so, I understand.

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Postby Northern Rancher » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:14 pm

You know all I've got right now is a project kind of gelding I'm trying to sell for a neighbor-he's a big bay 16 plus hands an 8 year old-needs to be miled out-I was gonna use him a'iing but the busted ribs put that on hold. All the rest of our horses are mares-I like them better I find them alot keener to work. I can ask my buddy though-he's a great hand with horses and might have some. That big bay would sell for around two-some miles and he'd make the team ropers drool-I don't travel in those circles though lol. We've got some good using mares that we've used lots-calved off them-dragged calves etc.

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Postby Soapweed » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:42 pm

It's hard to find good solid ranch horses. Sitting at the local horse sale, it is like playing Russian Roulette. The fine looking buckskin paint that I acquired last fall and was momentarily proud of, is a prime example. He's good looking, just the right size (15 hands), pretty colored, and the sorry sucker can't walk a hundred feet without stumbling. He almost goes down, and when the rider is off-balanced he'll go to bucking. We saddled him for the last time on this outfit today. I paid $1500, and will either just sell him as a "loose horse" and take my loss, or possibly see if he would be in demand as a bucking horse. He can buck pretty hard when he puts his mind to it.

The trouble is, the local horse sale is just as addictive as this bull session. There is always a chance (a very small one) that someday you will come across a four-legged treasure, as it comes through the ring. One thing about going to the casinos instead, there is less chance of getting "physically hurt". Oh well, life stays interesting.

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Postby Northern Rancher » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:46 pm

I don't sell horses at auction much but if I do-I just drop them off and pick up my cheque later or I end up coming home with more than I took to sell lol.

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Postby Faster horses » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:57 am

So it happens to you too, Soapweed?

We have really been burned at horse sales. Really ticked me off when we paid a lot of money for a horse that was probably the worst horse we ever owned. Got him at the Hart Ranch Sale during the Stock Show in Rapid a few years ago. We were just lucky he didn't hurt someone. He wasn't mean, just green as a gourd at 9 years old, very spooky, barn sour, and set in his ways. And his ways weren't our ways.

They promote the monthly horse sales at Billings as being so good. Someone we know bought 4 horses there and 3 of them are lame.
One was a really nice horse from Oregon. Nice, nice and lame, lame.

Do you get the Western Horseman magazine? There is an article on Phil and Debbie Page in the last one. THEY SELL GOOD HORSES. We used to trade some horses with them when we were in W. Montana. They are good people and have good horses, because they understand them and they RIDE them. They are both good hands, but I always thought Phil was just a tad better than Debbie. That's saying a lot, because she is good and women are usually best at getting a horse to handle well. She was just a little quick with her hands and Phil is just enough slower that the horses really like it. Anyway, I saw the article--haven't read it yet--and remembered how much we enjoyed our horse trades with them. Honest people. Guess I better get the article out and read it. The gist of the article was something they weren't doing yet when we knew them. Rocky Mountain School of some sort.

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Postby Jinglebob » Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:19 am

My two cents worth: You get what you pay for most times.
I worked at a salebarn for several years and stood in the ring and ran the gate at a bunch of horse sales there. The traders would stand down there and I got a real good education. To paraphrase Soapweed, in another post, no feet no horse.
If a cute little gal is riding the horse thru', look out! They want you to watch her instead of the horse.
When I was working at the salebarn and seen a neighbor in the seats, I'd go up and visit and point out all the horse traders and who they should stay away from and sure as heck, they'd buy a horse from one of those guys! 'Cauz he was pretty! Horsetraders know how to market their horses. Thats how they stay in business.
I have a horse that Faster Horses was going to look at at the stock show, but she got busy and didn't get to look at him. He ain't cheap, but he's gaurentee'd any way you want. Go price a 4 wheeler and then come tell me my horse costs too much. Figure out what it costs to get a fool proof, bomb proof, sound, aged gelding and then tell me what he'd cost me if you owned him and we can have some business.
Our horses never get a hard ride until they are at least five years old, so they last a lot longer. I don't raise horses to sell or trade, but to use.
And Soapweed is right, horsesales are as addictive as this dang place!
We don't ride mares as we trailer and work with a lot of neighbors and geldings seem to get along better, tho' I think mares are like studs, they might be more bother, but they will give you more also.
Worse problem today with horses is that most people don't ride enough to make a horse or keep one rode down who needs it. Most people don't use horses like they used too.
OK, I quit. Good luck with buying a "broke" horse!


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