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Postby katrina » Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:44 am

Bama, Come and spend a few days with Soapweed... He is the best.. Don't buy a horse at a Salebarn... People with good horses don't need to sell through a salebarn... I was burned big time at Corsica... The horse I bought was doped... Find someone who uses horses alot and see if they have something bombproof for you...It will cost you, but it is will worth it..IMO...

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Postby rancher » Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:27 pm

We have really been burned at horse sales. Really ticked me off when we paid a lot of money for a horse that was probably the worst horse we ever owned. Got him at the Hart Ranch Sale during the Stock Show in Rapid a few years ago. We were just lucky he didn't hurt someone. He wasn't mean, just green as a gourd at 9 years old, very spooky, barn sour, and set in his ways. And his ways weren't our ways.

What is his orginal owners FH? I had a neighbor buy two a few years ago and they came from the same person and were that way. Why do you think people sell horses at a sale as word of mouth will sell a good one faster and for more money. There are exceptions and it is like the hunt for the one horse in a life time buy?
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Postby Big Muddy rancher » Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:40 pm

Say NR the title of this Thread is "DAUGHTERS HORSE" then everybody gets talking about being burned at horse sales. I wonder how many horses are sold at auction as my "DAUGHTER'S HORSE" :cowboy: Just struck me as funny.
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Postby rancher » Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:20 pm

Thanks FH, will steer clear of his horses. These horses came from a lady in SD that sells insurance. Don't know her name off hand, they were barn soured, run away horses from the get go. She only rode them in the arena and never outside. My horses woundn't fit other people, they are honest, but will keep you on your toes at times. I need ones with lots of heart and sometimes other people can't handle that. Mine need rode down in the spring to get the humps out, but they will take you where you want to go and back again. They use their brains mostly with you, but sometimes figure things out if you take the short cut. I think more people get stung at a sale. I sell mine loose if I think someone will get hurt on them, ones I sell as ride horses are listed with problems they have.
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Postby Faster horses » Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:43 pm

Good for you, rancher. That is a good way to be, then you don't have to worry about something coming back to haunt you.

We have sold LOTS of horses in the past. We had a partner in St. Ignatius that we dealt with and he was great. Trading horses can be honest and still a lot of fun. We didn't buy and sell many, but we FOUND and SOLD horses for people. I always said "If you don't know the horse then you gotta know the people."

We were selling ranch, rope and polo horses sight unseen into Wyoming and never had to take a horse back. We were all so proud of that.

Bob Cordis was the man from St. Ignatius. He doesn't live there anymore. I would like to share a story about him (one of many--but this one shows his character.) He bought a horse at the monthly horse sale in Missoula. The horse was a bit 'off' but the seller assured Bob that he had just trimmed the horse too short (or he got hurt in the trailer, etc--you know the old story). Anyway, Bob believed him, liked the horse and paid quite a bit for him. In two weeks the horse was MUCH WORSE. So Bob called the seller to visit with him about it. The guy on the other end of the phone said, "I don't know why you are calling me. You bought the horse, you own him." Bob says, in his gentlemanly way, "Ahhh, yes. I know what you are saying."

The next month, Bob took the crippled horse back to Missoula to the sale. He ran him through loose and when the horse came in the ring, Bob stood up. He said, "I am Bob Cordis. I bought this horse at the sale last month from _____________"--(I don't know the seller's name, but Bob announced it to everyone there.) "The horse is no good and the man's word is no good."

I always appreciated him doing that. Too bad it doesn't happen more often.

He took a horse to a sale in Billings for someone that we knew. We knew this horse had bucked the lady off, but they didn't tell Bob that. Just asked him to ride the horse through. He called from Billings and told us about selling the horse. His first words were, "that horse should have been in the killer pen." He said that when he rode him in the ring, one of his buddies grabbed the horse by the tail and that horse grabbed himself and lunged across to the wall and came back out really humping. He said the horse only brought $800 and Bob was glad the guy grabbed the horse and no one would get a surprise when they got him home.

We just never bought horses from a horse sale until we moved here. We have done it here simply because it is usually so far to go look at one. Not many people in this area use horses.

And rancher, you are so right, most of the real good horses aren't the most gentle. We have a 26-year old that we have retired that would try you to this day if you got on him. He never bucked anyone off, and he is a Super Horse. He is my husband's horse, I have never ridden him because of how he is. But you can do anything you want to do on him. He stands 16-1, weighs 1435 and is super athletic and smooth as glass. Well, not so smooth now of course, because he is a little stoved up. But he was smooth, one of those horses that did everything on his hind end. Had a great head set, never threw his head in the air. Just one of those you can't replace. Roping, cutting, sorting, riding, you name it, he was super at it. We called him 'Flinch' because he was so touchy when he was young. So I know what you are saying.

Right now though, GENTLE is most important.

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Postby the real jake » Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:55 pm

rancher, I am pretty sure I know who you were referring to that sold you the horse. Could of seen that one coming!

Are you feeling any better? When you think you are too sick to die, you are probably over the hump. lol.

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Postby Cal » Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:54 pm

Running down "quads" and then complaining about getting burned on horse deals? A new 4 wheeler comes with a warranty, you know.

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Postby Juan » Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:35 am

Wish I had more than one finger to type with! I could tell some realy good horse trading stories I have seen and lived in my soon to be 77years.I and some friends,when we were in high school,would go every week to watch the night time horse sale at Sturgis Livestock when it was run by Harley Roth and Jim Madden.The place to be was on the fence behind the door leading into the sale ring!A real eye opener!!
One that I remember well was an afternoon sale when a smart-a-- young wanna-be horse trader rode in a mare and guaranteed her every way.The old boy that bought her went back to the pens,led her to his trailer, saddled her up and was promtly dumped onto the graveled driveway.He swallowed his pride, went back to the barn,led the would be trader out into the driveway and stomped the crap out of him.That trader is now a sheepman!!!
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Postby Faster horses » Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:50 am

Juan, you are 77 years old and you are on here with us?
Good for you!!!

I wish you could type with more than one finger too, you probably have more dandy stories to share with us. Loved this one that you just posted. Should have happened more often!!

Do take the time to post more stories!!

Have a great dayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!

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Postby PPRM » Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:33 am

I say "out" every sorry and dishonest horseman out there. Reputation needs to be everything. I do appreciate that most of the stories allow the seller to be contacted to make it right, but if they don't, OUT THEM. The internet is a great tool for this.

This would let the honest guys make more,
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Postby Juan » Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:37 am

Thank you F.H.
Someday I may get the "Better Half" to type up some.
I have heard many a good tale from some of the OLD TIMERS and if not told they will be lost.I feel so sorry for all those that did not grow up in our environment.When things get bad just think about yesterday and look toward tomorrow.
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Postby Soapweed » Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:48 am

Juan, I liked your horse-trader turned sheepherder story. Keep 'em coming. Wish you lived closer to this area. My dad has been interviewing some of the old-timers around here, and writing down their stories. He is a pretty good typer, and can type about as fast as they can talk. These stories are invaluable for future generations.

Sweet talk your wife into compiling your stories and making a book. Put me on your list, and I'll sure buy a copy (if you autograph it :-) ).


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