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Postby Liberty Belle » Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:44 am

chuckie: "BTW, liberty belle-no hunting on my huge acreage..! the dogs would get 'em!"

A pheasant is so rare in this country that we celebrate any that show up and really protect them. Same thing with ducks, geese, grouse, partridge and sage hens. When I say I'm a bird lover, I don't mean roasted with mushrooms! Growing up, I had no choice but to eat wild birds and wild game. Now I have a choice so we eat beef and lamb and just enjoy watching the birds.

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Postby the_jersey_lilly_2000 » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:16 pm

In all honesty...I didnt know what a shelter belt was...until I started reading these posts...and since I didn't know...I'm not gonna add 2 cent's worth.....living in south east texas I guess we don't need shelter belts. haha..but we got some sure nuff over grown fence rows...anyone wanna come help clean em out?
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Postby alabama » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:48 pm

Shelterbelt; I have no experience but over grown fencerows with rusted out fence I can help.
The only ways I have found to clean up a fencerow and build a new fence is to bull doze up in a pile then burn it. Then dig a hole and cover up the rest. Your new fencerow will grow right back unless you keep it sprayed.
I priced mettle “T” post the other day and they were running about $4.00 + each. That makes cutting cedar trees for post look a lot better. Therefore, if your cows are staying in I recommend you leave the old grown up fence tow and patch as needed.

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Postby Mike » Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:31 pm

SHELTERBELTS? Are they those BIG WIDE belts some men wear to keep their belly pushed in?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

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Postby frasercattleco » Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:53 pm

Come on Mike, that is a corsett. Women in the late 12th through 19th century wore those to keep and hourglass profile, interestingly enough though they caused massive gastro-intestinal problems. A shelterbelt is a assortment of vegetation to block wind, snow, etc. for livestock.

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Postby Clarence » Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:30 pm

I am not that much up on trees. I think where SF lives there near the SD Badlandsthe Rocky Mountain Juniper ( think they are sometimes called Silver Cedar) is probaly the native cedar.

Wher I live the Red Cedar or Virginia Juniper is one of the prefered conifers for windbreaks. Farther East where you are, they become invaders in pastures so are not favored. The Virginia Juniper produces seed every year, that is the female trees do. The Rocky Mountain Juniper takes two years for the seed to develop. They might not be as troublesome. Are your tall trees cottonwoods? If you are in an area where they get plenty of moisture leave them, they like their feet in water, in the right places they will live for years. If you have dieing Elms, you might as well take them out. I still give the old Siberian or Chinese elm some credt, for if it had not been for that tree, people here may have never attempted to plant trees, but they only live about 25 years.

Dead trees and fallen trees still offer some benefit to wildlife, so you have to take time and evaluate what you have and what you want in the end.

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Postby the_jersey_lilly_2000 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:12 pm

I hear ya there Alabama.....This fence that I"m referring to..runs along the railroad...thank heavens for that....they are replacing a trussel bridge and have given us all the old cross ties , somewhere in the neighborhood of 80 decent ones..they make great H braces....then they are required to furnish supplies to build new fence, ever so many years. So we'll be gettin with them about the T posts and wire. All the old T posts however will be pulled out with the tractor and saved for use somewhere else. I dont care if the fence posts is perdy ...long as it does it's job.
And yes I agree on the pile it up and burn it....then take the dozer and dig a hole and bury what's left. Don't know what we'd do without our little John Deere dozer, comes in real handy for fence work.
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Postby alabama » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:30 pm

Yes you need to save all the "T" post you can. But it ain't going to be easy to get to the old post. I have pushed the front end loader in to the old post and hooked a chain to each one and pulled them up. With the roots grown up around the post you will never pull them with a post puller. It takes a front end loader and a hook up man dressed in a heavy coat to keep from getting scratched up.
The last time I re-did a fence I put up a hot wire about 100 feet inside the old one while I did the work. Then removed the temp one.
greet news about the rail road. Can you get them to build the new fence too?

Good luck.

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Postby the_jersey_lilly_2000 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:24 pm

No such luck on gettin the rail road to build a fence..but hey..Im not complainin. Bettern than dealin with the nat'l forest service with the fence that joins the back side. They threaten if we even cut down a twig on their side of the fence we could get fined..and possibly jail time. And they won't furnish materials at all....so the railroad is much more pleasant to deal with. I'ts not too bad pullin posts either. our ground is so soft here...just hook a chain around post and use the hay fork on back of tractor. just tedious werk..hook n un hook...over n over lol...usually ends up bein "my job"
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Postby alabama » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:28 pm

Good luck with your fence. By the way do you know where I can buy about 300 feet of 10 inch dia. post hole? You may try to get the rail road to furnish that too.

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Postby the_jersey_lilly_2000 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:32 pm

git'm to dig the holes too? or are you lookin to buy 10 inch posts? Aint real sure..but Ithink I'm havin a blonde moment...lol
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Postby alabama » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:34 pm

rotflmao.


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