lazy ace wrote:I like your analysis on the racing stallions. What are your thoughts of One famous Eagle and Captain Courage? TTB and I were just thinking in our neck of the woods it seems people are looking for that next Frenchman's Guy in the barrel world.
There is a few cutting studs down at the four sixes, would they cross with a runner and make an athlete with speed.
Oh, yeah! The Sixes are doing really nifty stuff with some of their crosses. They have those really good ranch and cow type horses and also stand some great runners; they are crossing the two bloodlines and getting neat horses out of it. They just had their Return to the Remuda sale last month, and their catalog was some serious eye candy. Had a gray stud by Stoli out of a really well bred working mare (Sugar Bars and Quick Henry) that looks like a heck of a horse; a daughter of Mr Jess Perry and out of a Tanquery Gin bred mare that I would certainly have liked to add to our broodmare band; and a bunch more. The catalog is still up at http://www.6666ranch.com/assets/files/RTTR2012/2012RTTRCatalogWeb091312s.pdf
if you want to take a look at it.
Captain Courage is a nice horse. He's a full brother to the million dollar filly we were just talking about, and at $2500 is priced fairly reasonably (though I wouldn't say he's cheap.... it's still a lot of money to have in a colt before he hits the ground). One Famous Eagle has already put both an All American Futurity winner and a halter point winner on the ground. He was more successful as a runner and has been more successful as a sire than Captain Courage. They're both nice horses. One Famous Eagle I think is on the pricey side for experimenting with a cross on a working type mare and for most barrel racers, and it will probably be left to his get to prove themselves as barrel producers. But because the Sixes can use those horses on their mares for a lot less money than the public can, a fellow looking for a good barrel sire prospect might be able to pick one up as a weanling or a yearling from the Sixes for less money than it would take to make one with an in-house mare.
Their working bred horses are awfully nice, too. If I had to pick one to put on a speed bred mare, I'd breed to Four Roan Fly or Sixes Pick; they have a lot more size, substance, and pretty to cross on a more thoroughbredy type mare (unless a fellow can find a Corona Cartel mare to lease
). And depending on the mare, I think the Playboys Buck Fever, PG Gunpowder, and Waresthecat might be a lot of fun to experiment with, though the High Brow Cat horses have a reputation for being fairly high strung. The buckskin horse, though, to hear the folks at the Sixes tell it, has a disposition like a gelding and passes that on to his babies. Still, though, I think it'd take a certain type of mare to cross right on him -- something with a lot of size and refinement.
But back to the speed sires. The horse I really like, actually, and to which I think we'll try to breed a mare or two next year, is a horse called Ive Done Did It. (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ive+done+did+it
) He's owned by Celina Molina, the lady that owns (well, syndicated, but kept the majority of the shares...) Corona Cartel. He's by Corona Cartel and out of a three time Champion Running mare named See Me Do It. He's the only son of Corona Cartel she's kept back for just herself (without partners). That tells me something right off the bat.
Anyway, the horse didn't have much of a chance to run since he got hurt and the corrective surgery went poorly. So rather than risk crippling him, Celina just decided to retire him and stand him at stud. Because of this, she's offering the breedings at what is flat out cheap for a horse with his breeding: $1000. I've seen the horse in person, and every time I look at him, I like him better. He's about 15.2, balanced really well, is as gentle as a gelding, has a lot more width and substance than either of the two Mr Jess Perry studs we were just talking about, and is flat out pretty. And I am a sucker for a stud horse that has a really good mother, and whose sire also has a really good mother. If you'd like to take a peek at what he looks like, I've got some pictures of him here: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.465116460177083.101197.374708135884583&type=1&l=92a77191f6
If a fellow were to be on the lookout for a horse that has the potential to be the next big deal as a rodeo sire, I'd sure be pointing that fellow at this horse as an option to consider. Honestly I'd rather breed two of my mares to him than one to Captain Courage (or eight to him rather than one to One Famous Eagle). He's built for short speed, stout enough to be a head horse, has the right attitude, and is pretty enough to throw a halter point earner if you cross him on the right mare. And until he proves himself as a sire (which I'm fairly confident he'll do as soon as two or three of his foal crops are running on the track or competing in the rodeo arena), he'll be priced low enough to be able to outcross on some really good mares that aren't necessarily bred to run. Will he sire better rodeo or ranch horses than the others? I don't know. But he's more my type of horse than either of the two Jess Perrys, who more thoroughbredy. So he's my pick of the studs I've seen and heard about as an outcross on working mares to get good using horses with serious speed.