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    9/11 Truthers thread

    I changed my theory again. A plane did crash at Shanksville. It didn't go under the ground like the government said, however.
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    paul wellstone. he questioned 9 11. he was against the patriot act and he voted against the iraq war. paul wellstone was a man of honour and he and his family and two pilots payed with their lives…….it should be noted that cheney threatened paul wellstone……..the plane crashed under normal...
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    9/11 Commission The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the 9/11 Commission, was set up on November 27, 2002, "to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 attacks", including preparedness for and the...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    Paul Wellstone, a two-term United States Democratic Senator from Minnesota was killed in a plane crash on Oct. 25, 2002, in Eveleth, Minn., two miles away from the Eveleth-Virginia airport. The plane had departed St. Paul. His wife Sheila and Marcia, their daughter, three staffers, and two...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    Agent Joe Friday: Open the door! It’s the FBI! Ma’am, are you the person who called in a report of seeing a plane this morning? Susan: Yes, there was a plane the size of my mini-van and it had a tail like the spoiler on a car about a half mile south of the crash site. It was forty feet over me...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    Susan should have been able to see it, but very likely it was very low-flying and Susan’s view was impeded by some tree-lines. http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=569&st=30 I don't think Susan McElwain believes a 757 crashed in that field to be completely honest with you or if...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    A 747's doors at altitude also have lots of air pressure pushing them into their frames, due to the pressure differential between the inside and outside of the airframe. Because of this pressure differential and the fact that the doors actually open in and then swing out, you wouldn't be able to...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    You just proved what I said.
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    Likewise, what Susan saw could have been the C-141/C-17/Il-76 and not a missile and not a small drone. Think about it. Susan was south of the field. She saw something head toward the field. The explosion was soon after that. The government wouldn’t have a small drone south of the field just...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    You basically don't know a thing about 9/11, do you? You couldn't defend the government's story because you never checked out what really happened. All you know is what the MSM tells you and you don't intend to learn more than that.
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    Problem: Boeing 7x7 planes can't be airdropped or paratrooped out of. The plane at Shanksville wasn't a Boeing 7x7 plane. It was a Lockheed C-141 Starlifter, Boeing C-17 Globemaster III or an Ilyushin Il-76 which can be airdropped and paratrooped out of. These planes have four engines instead...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    Heck, it might have even been the same plane used for the Pentagon flyover and it flew out to Shanksville ahead of the C-130.
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    In my two-planes-meeting-at-the-field theory there is a commercial airliner or a commercial airliner replica heading southeast and a military cargo plane heading northwest. Problem: Shouldn't people have noticed both planes? What if Steve O'Brien is innocent? New theory: Only one plane and it...
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    John Doe II Apr-15-05 Proof that the official UA 93 story is a hoax by Team 8+ and Zaphod 36 The following article will present the evidence we do have for what happened in Shanksville and will compare it to the official explanation. Afterwards all theoretically possible scenarios will be...
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    UA 93: The Road to Shanksville (Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N018bxCd5Ww Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM9CXo29syo With the nationwide release of United 93, the story of the tragic crash of the only 9/11 hijack plane not to reach it's target has now become part of American...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    November 4, 2006 September 11, 2001 Revisited ACT IV: PART II Reporters from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review also encountered residents who spoke of a mysterious jet: “At least two witnesses in Shanksville said they saw a large plane circling the crash site following the explosion. About two or...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    Viola Saylor on the other hand describes the C-130 flyover with its external fuel tanks appearing to be silver fins. Both Susan and Viola witness more than one plane and as Viola put it…the white one had 2 eye balls…indicating that it was Word 31: B742 [E4B]...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    Say the C-130 takes off from Andrews at a little before 9:30 if it isn't already airborne. Say the crew knows what it's going to do and is all pumped up. Say they see the smoke at the Pentagon on the run straight for New Baltimore. Say UA93 is coming down from Cleveland. Say their speeds are...
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    9/11 Truthers thread

    Viola's house lays between the 'o' and the 'f' of the words "Site o-f Crash". Susan's car had just stopped at the junction (where in this map the short dark line ends with the text "Grove Run" just under the small square indicating the crash site), when the little white drone passed over her...
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