rkaiser said:
Logic Jason, you don't even know what the word means.
Use some logic for once. And tell me how the border opened so quickly to boxed beef?
Use some logic and tell me that the USDA would have stood by and watched Canadian producers burn up perfectly good beef cattle that had tremendous profit potential for them and their American mutinational packers.
Did the move help the Canadian producer. Of course it did Jason. Now you tell me Jason. Did it help Cargill and Tyson? I say it helped them a hell of a whole lot more than it helped producers.
Didn't answer my question about how many sheep you own Jason. You seem to think you know all about me, what about you?
Logic: The science concerned with the principles of valid reasoning and correct inference, either deductive or inductive.
I think it is logical that the USDA saw a very serious situation with the biggest trading partner of the US.
I think it is logical the USDA (perhaps with input from the feds in the US and / or Canada) looked for a way to assist Canada and Canadian producers, and American consumers, and found that way through boxed beef.
I think it is logical that Tyson/Cargill were looking for support to have the border opened to all exports, live cattle included, as they needed those cattle for their US plants. I also think it is logical to assume other Canadian packers were supportive of this as well.
We both agree that the opening to boxed beef helped producers, keeping most of us in business.
You state that you believe there was never any serious possibility of Tyson or Cargill shutting their doors up here.
Based on that assumption, Tyson/Cargill and all other Canadian based packers made money but producers were saved. Who did it help more? Profited one group and saved another group. There is no chance of profit if you are not in business.
The logical conclusion based on the above statements would be that it helped producers more.
Your original question was about goats, now it is sheep, I own neither. Never have, never will.
I own about 3 times the size of the average Canadian herd.
But damnit to be more emotional I just have to cuss those damn big packers. Them buggers buy the cattle and make money off us. How dare they! I wish they would lose their shirts and go broke so we have no place to sell our cattle.
Wait maybe emotion goes too far.