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100% BSE TESTING

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Anonymous

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Want to see how quickly this issue can be squashed?

Here's two simple questions for the 100% testing advocates to answer.

Sandbag keeps making the claim that the Japanese consumer wants 100% BSE tested beef.

1. Where is the proof that the Japanese government is demanding 100% BSE tested beef in current negotiations?

2. What tests should be used that will reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age?


Watch the dance folks................

I don't care what issue it is, all Conman and Sandbag ever have is cheap talk. Nothing ever changes. Obvious to anyone with any common sense is the fact that Japan is currently importing beef from Canada WITHOUT TESTING. Also obvious to anyone who understands bse is that prions are not detectable in cattle under 24 months of age with currently approved testing methodology. Unconfirmed exceptions to this rule do not make the rule Mike.

Show me a confirmed BSE case in Canada or the US from an animal under 24 months of age. It isn't there. It's just something for blamers to bitch about.



~SH~
 
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Anonymous

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NOT AGAIN---SH--Did you think about that all the time you were on your educational sabbatical in Dog town :???:
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Want to see how quickly this issue can be squashed?

Here's two simple questions for the 100% testing advocates to answer.

Sandbag keeps making the claim that the Japanese consumer wants 100% BSE tested beef.

1. Where is the proof that the Japanese government is demanding 100% BSE tested beef in current negotiations?

2. What tests should be used that will reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months of age?


Watch the dance folks................

I don't care what issue it is, all Conman and Sandbag ever have is cheap talk. Nothing ever changes. Obvious to anyone with any common sense is the fact that Japan is currently importing beef from Canada WITHOUT TESTING. Also obvious to anyone who understands bse is that prions are not detectable in cattle under 24 months of age with currently approved testing methodology. Unconfirmed exceptions to this rule do not make the rule Mike.

Show me a confirmed BSE case in Canada or the US from an animal under 24 months of age. It isn't there. It's just something for blamers to bitch about.



~SH~

You wouldn't accept a letter from the Secretary of Agriculture asking the Japanese to STOP asking for tested beef. Why would you accept anything from me?

Go back to camp.
 
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Anonymous

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Still diverting huh Sandbag?

Why would you make the claim without proof? If Japan wants 100% bse testing, WHERE'S YOUR PROOF???

DO THE DIVERSION DANCE LITTLE SANDBAG, DANCE!


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Still diverting huh Sandbag?

Why would you make the claim without proof? If Japan wants 100% bse testing, WHERE'S YOUR PROOF???

DO THE DIVERSION DANCE LITTLE SANDBAG, DANCE!


~SH~

What will you accept as proof?
 
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Anonymous

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Where is your proof that Japan wants 100% bse testing?

Your diversion is so "OBVIOUS"!


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
Where is your proof that Japan wants 100% bse testing?

Your diversion is so "OBVIOUS"!


~SH~

What will you accept as proof? Do you want minutes of the last meeting? A notarized letter from the Japanese Embassy on Embassy letterhead? What do you want?
 
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Anonymous

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You have no proof! You know it and I know it. Same ol' Sandbag making the same ol baseless claims.


~SH~
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
You have no proof! You know it and I know it. Same ol' Sandbag making the same ol baseless claims.


~SH~

Speaking of baseless claims, didn't you say the Japanese were currently not asking for testing?

If you want try to actually back you claims, I'll consider anything you have to offer from any source.
 
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Anonymous

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You claimed Japan is currently asking for 100% bse testing. Why do you make a claim like that if you have no proof? Because that's how you emotional R-CULTers operate, that's why. You just repeat what you hear because your need to blame is more important to you than the truth.

My proof that Japan (Japanese beef trade negotiators) is not requesting 100% BSE testing is the fact that Canada had bse and Canada is shipping untested beef to Japan. No further proof is necessary. Actions speak louder than cheap talk.

NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION AND QUIT DIVERTING or keep dancing and prove that you can't.


~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
You claimed Japan is currently asking for 100% bse testing. Why do you make a claim like that if you have no proof? Because that's how you emotional R-CULTers operate, that's why. You just repeat what you hear because your need to blame is more important to you than the truth.

My proof that Japan (Japanese beef trade negotiators) is not requesting 100% BSE testing is the fact that Canada had bse and Canada is shipping untested beef to Japan. No further proof is necessary. Actions speak louder than cheap talk.

NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION AND QUIT DIVERTING or keep dancing and prove that you can't.


~SH~

SH, if you don't want to believe Creekstone could have sold tested beef to Japan had not the USDA stopped them, then go ahead.

Don't ask the rest of us to share in your delusion or explain it either.
 
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Anonymous

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You bet Conman, keep creating the "ILLUSION" that Japan wants 100% tested beef while they import untested beef from Canada. You obviously know more about what Japan wants than Japan does.



~SH~
 

Econ101

Well-known member
~SH~ said:
You bet Conman, keep creating the "ILLUSION" that Japan wants 100% tested beef while they import untested beef from Canada. You obviously know more about what Japan wants than Japan does.



~SH~

Did someone throw you off the merry go round, SH?

Your head is still mixed up.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
SH, "My proof that Japan (Japanese beef trade negotiators) is not requesting 100% BSE testing is the fact that Canada had bse and Canada is shipping untested beef to Japan. No further proof is necessary. Actions speak louder than cheap talk."

Canada is a different country, Scotty. Canada hasn't needed Phyllis Fong or England to make them tell the truth.

All foam and no beer - is that how it goes, SH. I think you're all cup and air.
 

Tam

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
SH, "My proof that Japan (Japanese beef trade negotiators) is not requesting 100% BSE testing is the fact that Canada had bse and Canada is shipping untested beef to Japan. No further proof is necessary. Actions speak louder than cheap talk."

Canada is a different country, Scotty. Canada hasn't needed Phyllis Fong or England to make them tell the truth.

All foam and no beer - is that how it goes, SH. I think you're all cup and air.


Phyllis found your case in June 2005, the US was shipping untested beef into Japan in Jan 2006 and then was stopped because of SRM's . So do you have proof that they are, now or at anytime since June 2005, requesting 100% testing? if you do provide it without any more diversons.
 

Tam

Well-known member
Econ101 said:
~SH~ said:
You claimed Japan is currently asking for 100% bse testing. Why do you make a claim like that if you have no proof? Because that's how you emotional R-CULTers operate, that's why. You just repeat what you hear because your need to blame is more important to you than the truth.

My proof that Japan (Japanese beef trade negotiators) is not requesting 100% BSE testing is the fact that Canada had bse and Canada is shipping untested beef to Japan. No further proof is necessary. Actions speak louder than cheap talk.

NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION AND QUIT DIVERTING or keep dancing and prove that you can't.


~SH~

SH, if you don't want to believe Creekstone could have sold tested beef to Japan had not the USDA stopped them, then go ahead.

Don't ask the rest of us to share in your delusion or explain it either.

Econ Creekstone may have had a agreement with a businessman in Japan but the funny thing is trade deals in Japan are alot like those in Canada and the US. They have to follow Japanese government rules. According to what I understand the Japanese government were quoted to have said NO to any such deal. So don't ask us to share in your delusion unless you have proof that THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT made an agreement with Creekstone.
 

Silver

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I say test it all. It's the one thing we haven't tried yet. I don't give a damn if it has no scientific merit, political support, or 'proof' of a guaranteed market for it. Test it and markets will open. Test it and we'll know what we have. Test it and settle all these stupid arguments once and for all.
 
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