Sandhusker said:
Tam said:
Sandhusker said:
Scotty, 'The amount of beef being exported from Canada and the US to Japan has to do with the fact that Canada and the US had BSE. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with the fact that we are not 100% testing our beef OR CANADA WOULD NOT BE SHIPPING ANY UNTESTED BEEF TO JAPAN. "
Canada is a different country, SH. Maybe they trust Canada's system better than ours? To my knowledge, there has never been any doubts about what Canada calls a positive and a negetive. Phyllis Fong's Canadian equivalent has never had to step in.
Maybe Canada hasn't torked them off with trade threats? Are you going to buy your gopher traps from somebody who threatens you?
I asked before Sandhusker but you never answered. so here it goes again If the Japanese don't trust the US beef without 100% testing because of Phyllis, why did they agree to take your UNTESTED BEEF months after Phyllis dropped her little bomb on the US Beef industry? If what you say is true about the effect Phyllis has then wouldn't the Japanese have insisted on 100% testing after she found your BSE and before they resumed untested beef trade with you? :?
I must add this. by what you said it looks as if you believe the Japanese are taking our untested beef as they trust it more than they trust US beef. So I ask if you get MCOOL enacted will US consumers be looking for the beef that other countries namely Japan feels is more trustworthy, IE Canadian? :? And if the Japanese feel it is more trustworthy why does R-CALF have such a problem within?
I think Japan took untested beef only because of the enormous amount of pressure our government was putting on them. I've seen many Japanese consumer groups say the same thing. You notice they closed back up at the first little problem and haven't opened since?
Most US consumers have no reason to think they can get anything other than US because of the USDA stamp. Judging by how our BSE cases affected consumption, they're not real spooked about it, either.
Why does R-CALF have a problem within? Within what?
The US may have been putting pressure on but if it was the US pressuring them why did they also except Canadian beef UNTESTED and why are they STILL TAKING IT UNTESTED? According to You and R-CALF our beef is much more dangerous :roll: but they took and still are taking it UNTESTED.
If the Japanese felt tested was the only way they would take beef from a BSE affected country, all they had to do was say test or no deal. They are the only country in the world that could of as they were 100% testing and the OIE rules state, the rules on imported may not be more stringent than those used on domestic. They could have won if this became a WTO court action. But they knew from years of testing that the test showed nothing in the younger animals so they used this to get out of their 100% testing.
Your comment about the Japanese closed back up has nothing to do with TESTING. It was not the fact you weren't testing that closed them back up, it was the US beef indusrty's failure to follow the agreement about not sending SRM's into Japan that got you ban AGAIN. I will repeat this for you as you seem to forget so easily
It was not the fact you weren't testing that closed them back up, it was the US beef indusrty's failure to follow the agreement about not sending SRM's into Japan that got you ban AGAIN
Unless you have proof that the Japanese government have included the request for 100% in the new deal to resume trade, I doubt testing of younger animals is the hold up and the really hold up is the Japanese are still not sure you will not break your agreement with them AGAIN.
Gee I guess the US already did Sandhusker as the Japanese found Beef in with some turkey and ham DIDN"T THEY???? Had this Exporter been told if he tested Japan would except it or something? Why would anyone in the Beef industry, with all the media attention on the beef ban in Japan, no know that US BEEF IS BAN IN JAPAN TESTED OR NOT?
And I would like to know why R-CALF has a problem with our beef if Japan trusts it more than they trust the WORLD SAFEST US BEEF? Do you really think you and your wannabe rancher lawyers know more about BSE than the Japanese Goverment? :?
Most US consumers have no reason to think they can get anything other than US because of the USDA stamp. Judging by how our BSE cases affected consumption, they're not real spooked about it, either.
Just how does that make you R-CALFers feel, knowing all your hard earned money is falling on deaf ears? :wink: As if most of the consumers don't know by now they are eating unsafe imported beef, I'd say you just spent your money on a nag that will never cross the finish line. :lol: :lol: :lol: How many more years of roll over calf auctions will it take before R-CALFs lawyers educate the US consumers? :wink: :lol: