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13th (15th) Canadian Mad Cow Case Found

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gcreekrch said:
Sandhusker said:
QUESTION said:
OT are you also in favor or the packers being allowed to do their own inspection and grading as well. Can you say conflict of interest ? Or maybe you think that the creekstone is different and they want to test for the sole purpose of helping cattlemen. Don't play innocent the only reason they want to test is to get into markets others are shut out of, it is all about making the biggest profit as possible. Thus finding a bunch of positives won't help that. So move on and push for more testing of the target group high risk cattle.

They already do a number of tests on their product that they are required to do. What the heck is the problem with them doing another one voluntarily?

Of course Creekstone wants to get in a market others are shut out of. That's called business. Thats how business works, you find an angle that you have over your competition and then you exploit it while maximizing profits. In a free enterprise system that we are supposed to have and that NCBA purports to support, the government is supposed to allow it and stay the hell out of the way.

Now back to the original topic; The question is what would of kept that cow from not being shipped down here or even put in your food chain last month, 6 months ago, 12 months, etc..... ?

In my opinion there is nothing that would have stopped this cow from being exported. The fact is the CFIA found it. The Stevie Wonder group would have fed her to their own people, the same as they are doing now.
What is the better scenario?
I am also not saying that the CFIA is finding them all, too bad voluntary testing wasn't allowed, we would ALL be suprised at the results

YEP- I'm afraid you may be right-- but that doesn't fit into the lie, cheat, decieve, cut and run- don't accept responsibility- way big business and our big business bought out government operates anymore... :(
 

Sandhusker

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gcreekrch said:
Sandhusker said:
QUESTION said:
OT are you also in favor or the packers being allowed to do their own inspection and grading as well. Can you say conflict of interest ? Or maybe you think that the creekstone is different and they want to test for the sole purpose of helping cattlemen. Don't play innocent the only reason they want to test is to get into markets others are shut out of, it is all about making the biggest profit as possible. Thus finding a bunch of positives won't help that. So move on and push for more testing of the target group high risk cattle.

They already do a number of tests on their product that they are required to do. What the heck is the problem with them doing another one voluntarily?

Of course Creekstone wants to get in a market others are shut out of. That's called business. Thats how business works, you find an angle that you have over your competition and then you exploit it while maximizing profits. In a free enterprise system that we are supposed to have and that NCBA purports to support, the government is supposed to allow it and stay the hell out of the way.

Now back to the original topic; The question is what would of kept that cow from not being shipped down here or even put in your food chain last month, 6 months ago, 12 months, etc..... ?

In my opinion there is nothing that would have stopped this cow from being exported. The fact is the CFIA found it. The Stevie Wonder group would have fed her to their own people, the same as they are doing now.
What is the better scenario?
I am also not saying that the CFIA is finding them all, too bad voluntary testing wasn't allowed, we would ALL be suprised at the results

Thanks for the honest answer.
 

gcreekrch

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You're more than welcome, after all even burocrats are human. :???: Did I actually admit that? Now, it's your turn to admit that BSE is alive and well in the good old USA! :D
 

Sandhusker

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gcreekrch said:
You're more than welcome, after all even burocrats are human. :???: Did I actually admit that? Now, it's your turn to admit that BSE is alive and well in the good old USA! :D

I've never denied it.
 

gcreekrch

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Now that we've agreed on that. I wonder if our govt's would pay us to solve the problem of BSE and packer consolidation? :shock: :D
 
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gcreekrch said:
Now that we've agreed on that. I wonder if our govt's would pay us to solve the problem of BSE and packer consolidation? :shock: :D

I told Rkaiser long ago- that if he was dealing for Canada- and I was dealing for the States- and if we had enough Crown Royal- we could probably solve the whole problem in one weekend.... :wink: :lol:
 

gcreekrch

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I don't think any of our elected OR paid officials, regardles of party or assn. could understand this but it's pretty simple. Test everything, limit packer ownership and encourage niche markets/small packing houses.
Wouldn't it be a great world if we could ALL make just a little profit. :wink: :D
 

burnt

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Sounds so simple and I wish it were so simple. Yet, look at what happened to Gencor when the export market for cull cows opened. The vaccuum caused by cattle trucks heading south sucked the plant doors shut.

The same stupid farmers/cattlemen who were whining about too few packers couldn't wait to get in line to send their culls (and the jobs connected to the local kill plant) out of the country.

One big feedlot/cattle owner was very vocal about the hardships caused by BSE and crying for intervention, but he was the first one to send live cattle south out out this part of the country.

But I guess there's nothing wrong with dreaming.
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gcreekrch

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Burnt, don't take this wrong. The reason cattle-people can never accomplish anything is because of their negativity. The finger pointing needs to stop and we need to support each other.
How do you think the packers got where they are. Usually if someone is "Doin' Good" I try to copy some of their methods and make them work for me.
 

Sandhusker

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gcreekrch said:
I don't think any of our elected OR paid officials, regardles of party or assn. could understand this but it's pretty simple. Test everything, limit packer ownership and encourage niche markets/small packing houses.
Wouldn't it be a great world if we could ALL make just a little profit. :wink: :D

Whether you realize it or not, what you've just described is a large part of R-CALF's platform. The major problem that we're having pushing this agenda is that there's a group that claims to represent cattlemen named the NCBA, and they and the packers are fighting us every step of the way - and they've got a lot of money to "donate" to officials.
 

gcreekrch

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Well aware that you have the same "well meaning" group in the US that we have up here. Although there are some good reps here and there, there aren't enough of them to make a difference to the "photogenic pr"cks" that make up the majority of cattle Assns.
Here in BC the big majority of the directors in THE assn are lunch bucket carrying managers of the bigger ranches that don't give a rat's azz what happens to our industry. The folks that could make a difference either can't afford the time and cost or are just too disgusted with assn. policies to bother. Kind of goes hand in hand with what's happening in most industries.
 

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