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3rd party candidates

Red Robin

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It's not a matter of if but when in relation to some serious 3rd party candidates. Any guesses who'll be a serious candidate? Do they just relegate their self to second class politicians when they run a 3rd party ticket?
 
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Red Robin said:
It's not a matter of if but when in relation to some serious 3rd party candidates. Any guesses who'll be a serious candidate? Do they just relegate their self to second class politicians when they run a 3rd party ticket?

I was hoping Lou Dobbs.....

The main problem against an "Independent" candidate is that the parties have set up the rules across the nation to make it very hard (almost impossible) for an independent to run...They don't want folks going off independently- and not shuffling the money thru their state and national parties coffers...Or the parties to lose any control or power....

Each state has its own rules on how to get on the ballot (usually by petition drive) and it takes a great deal of cost and effort just to get on the ballot....In Montana- if I remember right- you need a petition- signed by something like 1/5 th of the voters that voted in the last election....
 

TSR

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Red Robin said:
It's not a matter of if but when in relation to some serious 3rd party candidates. Any guesses who'll be a serious candidate? Do they just relegate their self to second class politicians when they run a 3rd party ticket?[/quote

I really believe because of his TV exposure that Lou Dobbs could be a viable candidate. Am I just naive??
 

Red Robin

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Lou can't carry the southern conservative Christian vote (Huckabee's) that I personally think it'd take to be a serious candidate that could actually make a move and be viable. What about Roy Moore? I guess he'd have too many people that are green with hatred for any man that takes a strong stance on a position, especially if that stance involves Christianity. The trouble is without a conviction, you end up with the slime bags that we currently have. Spineless little creatures.
 

TSR

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Red Robin said:
Lou can't carry the southern conservative Christian vote (Huckabee's) that I personally think it'd take to be a serious candidate that could actually make a move and be viable. What about Roy Moore? I guess he'd have too many people that are green with hatred for any man that takes a strong stance on a position, especially if that stance involves Christianity. The trouble is without a conviction, you end up with the slime bags that we currently have. Spineless little creatures.

Lou might not carry the majority of the southern conservative Christian but I would bet he would get a substantial number of them because of his stance on immigration and the Constitution. Also I think his appeal would be more widespread than some of the others because of his popularity on tv these past yrs. JMHO
 

Red Robin

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TSR said:
Red Robin said:
Lou can't carry the southern conservative Christian vote (Huckabee's) that I personally think it'd take to be a serious candidate that could actually make a move and be viable. What about Roy Moore? I guess he'd have too many people that are green with hatred for any man that takes a strong stance on a position, especially if that stance involves Christianity. The trouble is without a conviction, you end up with the slime bags that we currently have. Spineless little creatures.

Lou might not carry the majority of the southern conservative Christian but I would bet he would get a substantial number of them because of his stance on immigration and the Constitution. Also I think his appeal would be more widespread than some of the others because of his popularity on tv these past yrs. JMHO
I don't watch his show but through oldshiner I keep up with his talking points , some. What are his thoughts on the socially conservative things like abortion? He'll have to be pro-life to take the available conservative republican vote that isn't satisfied with Mccain.
 

fff

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I don't believe anyone can get in as a third party candidate with a real chance of winning. Ron Paul might have the best opportunity. He's got a lot of money and a loyal, though small, following. The Libertarian Party already exists in some states so they wouldn't be starting from scratch to get the party certified in each state.

Democrats are pleased with their candidates. You aren't likely to see a lot of them desert the party for a third party candidate. Republicans are at a different place, though. Paul might take some votes from the ultra conservative area.
 

TSR

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fff said:
I don't believe anyone can get in as a third party candidate with a real chance of winning. Ron Paul might have the best opportunity. He's got a lot of money and a loyal, though small, following. The Libertarian Party already exists in some states so they wouldn't be starting from scratch to get the party certified in each state.

Democrats are pleased with their candidates. You aren't likely to see a lot of them desert the party for a third party candidate. Republicans are at a different place, though. Paul might take some votes from the ultra conservative area.

fff You may be right that democrats are pleased but could it possibly be that they have no other choice??? They, like a lot of Rep.'s are just voting for the lesser evil of the choices? I may be wrong but I don't think the majority of Dems or Reps want amnesty for illegals. I wonder how many less votes Huckabee would have gotten in the south had he favored amnesty.
 

jodywy

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it was a 3rd party candidate that got Bill Clinton elected both time with less then a majority of the vote. Think about that elected twice with less then 50% of the vote that what a 3rd party dose in an election.
 

fff

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jodywy said:
it was a 3rd party candidate that got Bill Clinton elected both time with less then a majority of the vote. Think about that elected twice with less then 50% of the vote that what a 3rd party dose in an election.

And Ralph Nader got GW Bush elected. Third party candidates work both ways. :) Let's not forget that Al Gore got more votes than Bush did.
 

Red Robin

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I no longer worry about the consequences to the republican party when I cast my vote. I'm voting for the person that is likely to be the best president.
 

jodywy

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fff said:
jodywy said:
it was a 3rd party candidate that got Bill Clinton elected both time with less then a majority of the vote. Think about that elected twice with less then 50% of the vote that what a 3rd party dose in an election.

And Ralph Nader got GW Bush elected. Third party candidates work both ways. :) Let's not forget that Al Gore got more votes than Bush did.
More popular votes not electoral votes
 

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