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48 liberal lies about American history

hypocritexposer

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48 liberal lies about American history
Marcia Segelstein - OneNewsNow Columnist - 10/7/2008 5:00:00 AMBookmark and Share

Reluctant Rebel logoLarry Schweikart is a professor of history at the University of Dayton, and best-selling author of many books, including A Patriot's History of the United States. His latest book is 48 Liberal Lies About American History (That You Probably Learned in School).



Schweikart examined the top-selling U.S. history textbooks, along with other resources used in public schools, and found them seriously flawed. Not only were liberal lies pervasive, so was a negative view of America. As he writes in the book's introduction, modern textbooks often portray America as "a racist, sexist, imperialist regime." Good news is often omitted, while America's failings are emphasized.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=277712
 
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Hypocrit- have you ever served on the school board :???: Have you ever put in time deciding which books to use in school :???:

I have- and we used to delegate it to a board sub committee, made up of some board members, the teachers that teach the subjects being looked at, and to the Parents Group, which locally was like the PTA- to make the recommendation to the board as a whole.... The same was done with any books that someone later complained about...

The Liberalization/Democrat leaning/PCing of textbooks was brought up by a couple of board members that had heard the same thing--but as the Supt. at the time, mentioned-- how many scholarly, educated people that will go into education- and then are qualified to write these books are either conservative or Republicans :???: ...
There are only so many (a few) books that actually could be considered textbooks to choose from that aren't ultra radical one way or another....
Some of the rightwingnut ones written by Bubba in Alabama were plumb comical-- you'd think Robert E Lee had replaced George Washington or Abe Lincoln and the south had one the war....

Like he also explained- much of history is political- and is viewed differently by different folks- and in different areas (one of the reasons I support the local control left to local folks/local boards and not a mandate out of D.C. just so you can pass a certain test)..

But Hypocrit- one thing you have to face- most folks that get an education- are worldly- are sholarly- your PHD's and Professors that get involved with educating children- that then write these books- are Democrats and/or more liberal leaning.....
 
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hypocritexposer said:
So it is okay to lie to children if you are worldly, scholarly and Liberal?

You apparently didn't read what I said.....

Like he also explained- much of history is political- and is viewed differently by different folks- and in different areas (one of the reasons I support the local control left to local folks/local boards and not a mandate out of D.C. just so you can pass a certain test)..

But Hypocrit- one thing you have to face- most folks that get an education- are worldly- are sholarly- your PHD's and Professors that get involved with educating children- that then write these books- are Democrats and/or more liberal leaning.....
 

hypocritexposer

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But Hypocrit- one thing you have to face- most folks that get an education- are worldly- are sholarly- your PHD's and Professors that get involved with educating children- that then write these books- are Democrats and/or more liberal leaning.....

So it's okay for these people to lie to children?
 

hopalong

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hypocritexposer said:
So it is okay to lie to children if you are worldly, scholarly and Liberal?


Apparetnly oldtimer didn't understand the question. Maybe you had better rephase it and take it down to his level
 
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hypocritexposer said:
But Hypocrit- one thing you have to face- most folks that get an education- are worldly- are sholarly- your PHD's and Professors that get involved with educating children- that then write these books- are Democrats and/or more liberal leaning.....

So it's okay for these people to lie to children?

Like he also explained- much of history is political- and is viewed differently by different folks- and in different areas (one of the reasons I support the local control left to local folks/local boards and not a mandate out of D.C. just so you can pass a certain test)..

What you consider a lie- I may not....What I consider a lie- you may not.....Who makes that decision :???:

Thats the reason I like the local control of education- and education materials....And even with that method- not everyone agreed with some of the material- and even in the best written of some- someone found something to object to....
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Is what you consider a lie, okay to teach to Children?

Opinions are not facts!

Nothing that your article mentions is a lie- they are opinions- or direction written on opinion... Absolute falsehoods should not be allowed taught- but a good teacher will stimulate interest by giving varying/opposing opinions and hopefully stimulate the student to want to look much deeper than the brief glimpse they get in school books- and make an informed choice on their own....

A good example is the teaching of BOTH evolution- and creationalism- not to change or influence students minds- but to stimulate them to look further....I'm also a believer that not only abstinece advantages should be taught in school- but also sex education and methods of birth control...Give the students informed choices...
 

hypocritexposer

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Absolute falsehoods should not be allowed taught

No falsehoods in the article I posted?

How about these? Anyone want to defend these teachings?


• The founders wanted to create a "wall of separation" between church and state
• Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation only because he needed black soldiers
• Truman ordered the bombing of Hiroshima to intimidate the Soviets with "atomic diplomacy"
• Mikhail Gorbachev, not Ronald Reagan, was responsible for ending the Cold War
America's past, though not perfect, is far more admirable than you were probably taught.
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Absolute falsehoods should not be allowed taught

No falsehoods in the article I posted?

How about these? Anyone want to defend these teachings?


• The founders wanted to create a "wall of separation" between church and state
• Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation only because he needed black soldiers
• Truman ordered the bombing of Hiroshima to intimidate the Soviets with "atomic diplomacy"
• Mikhail Gorbachev, not Ronald Reagan, was responsible for ending the Cold War
America's past, though not perfect, is far more admirable than you were probably taught.

The only one of those in your article is the Gorbachev one- which is an opinion believed by many....

In fact the only one I haven't heard as an opinion is the Truman/Hiroshima one- altho part of his decision making was done to end the war fast to keep the Soviets/Stalin from occupying much of Asia since they were joining the war against Japan...
 

badaxemoo

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I won't attempt to address the "48 lies" right now.

But let me recommend the book "Lies my Teacher Told Me" by James Loewen.

There are numerous examples of textbooks given that have skewed our history in a conservative way.

The main point here is that while some textbooks skew to the right and some to the left, textbooks are mostly steaming piles of dung.

Teachers should be using primary sources as much as possible.
 

Martin Jr.

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Text books have always been biased. I remember long ago in the 1940's when I was in grade school of history books that were greatly biased and contained false information about the Reformation.
But as Oldtimer says, look at who wrote them. They were taught that way and were blind to the truth.
Idealy, parents should be involved in what is being taught and teach their children more correct information.

Today we have the internet with many more ways to find information. We should broaden our horizons and find more about questionable subjects in text books and then maybe we can see what is truth.
 
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