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7 year offshore drilling moratorium?

hypocritexposer

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Imagine if the obama administration was not trying to promote energy independence. If I didn't know any better, If I was a cynic, I'd think this adminstration was trying to commit economic suicide.


The Obama administration won’t allow any new oil drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico for at least the next seven years because of the BP oil spill, a senior administration official told The Associated Press on Wednesday.


Obama administration officials will announce Wednesday afternoon they will not allow offshore oil drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico or off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts as part of the next five-year drilling plan, according to sources briefed on the plan, reversing two key policy changes President Obama announced in late March.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/01/obama-to-reverse-position-on-offshore-drilling/
 

loomixguy

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I'd say that's pretty damn gutty of them, considering Barry will be out of a job in January, 2013. Just something else the conservatives will have to repeal/fix.

Maybe Barry could become Kenya's ambassador to the UN?
 

Tam

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Everytime I hear someone talking about Obama and the 2012 election His comment about how he would rather be a good one term President than a so so two term President comes to mind. TOO BAD he is turning out to be a WE TOLD YOU SO, PRAY TO GOD ONE TERM PRESIDENT :roll:

And what was it we told the libs?
OH yea.

weak,
embassassing,
incompetent,
inexperience,
narcissisit,
Muslim loving,
American hating,
economy destroying,
far left liberal racial,
race baiting,
big government loving,
jet setting,
fact hiding liar,
teleprompter reading tool
Socialist
PARTISAN
that thinks nothing of lowering the Office of the President of the US to petty nasty personal attacks on the past President and his opponents

Face it he is One Big Azz Mistake America that didn't even deserved to be a Junior Senator let alone the President.

He would rather be playing basketball, golfing and being on TV talk shows as to be doing his da*n job. He is not a rock star he is the US President and I can only hope the beating the idiot took on Nov 2 will put him in his place for his last two years. BUT I DOUBT IT. :mad:

One Great US President you Libs voted for. :roll:
 

Steve

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Obama's original "plan" was to review the opening of these areas... not actually to open them.. so in reality. there never was a plan to open the new areas..

it was just a smoke screen to cover up the fact that they just closed several already open areas.. and were in the process of closing more areas..

can't wait for "President Palin" she may not be ready or the right person.. but she will be a hell of alot better then this conniver..
 

Tam

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Wouldn't you love to see how our resident liberals are going to explain away Obama's 7 year moratorium on off shore drilling, in light of the fact that he loaned Brazil 2 billion dollars to do just that? It's good enough for the Brazilan unemployed to get jobs doing off shore drilling but not for the US oil field workers that will be laid off because of Obama's stupidity.

Come Liberals explain away, we are waiting. :roll:
 

katrina

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This just makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!! Do people not know this???? :mad: Everyone must have their heads in the sand......
 

Tam

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katrina said:
This just makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!! Do people not know this???? :mad: Everyone must have their heads in the sand......

Let's just pray that enough will pull their heads out of the sand or where ever they have them stuck by 2012 to see this guy is going to destroy the US if he is not VOTED OUT or better yet impeached.

They were commenting that he was on another foreign trip to make a four hour visit the troops yesterday. Which was nice but you only had to listen to the rest of the news to know why he got out of DC.

Unemployment rate up again after his trillion plus dollar bailout.
Pelosi and Reid thumbing their noses at his attempts at Bi Partisan talks on tax cuts.
Reid pushing the Dream act IE free pass for illegals/pay back for votes in Nevada election.
The Military asking the Government not to repeal Don't ask don't tell.
Failure of Pelosi to empty the swamp by letting Rangel keep his seat and not go to jail.
Wikileaks threatening another information dump and he has done nothing to stop the guy.
News of Holder being out of the country trying to get the World Cup in 2022, at which he failed, when his office is sitting on more than a few pressing overdue justice issues.
More States joining the Obamacare lawsuit.
And the list goes on and on, it is no wonder why he doesn't want to be in DC. And it is only going to get worse after Jan. when he has to actually negotiate with his ENEMIES. (His election name for the Republicans) verses just doing lip service to bi-partisanship and then doing whatever partisan crap he wanted to do all along. The guy is a dangerous Solo's bought radical left liberal puppet and he is going to destroy the US if he is not stopped in his tracks.



Who Gains From Offshore Drilling Moratorium?

But don’t worry. It’s not like George Soros has anything to gain from how the president handles BP or anything like that. That would, of course, be wrong. And if that were happening I’m sure everyone in the media would be all over it — especially — especially thinking that there is a lot to gain here.

For instance, in Brazil. Brazil — according to Reuters, Brazil is the one that really stands to benefit from the BP oil spill catastrophe. As the U.S. moratorium makes more rigs available for other countries, Brazil is going to gobble them up. Brazil is plowing ahead now with a $220 billion, five-year — $220 billion five-year plan to tap oil fields that are deeper than BP’s ill-fated Gulf well. Remember, $220 billion, it’s deeper than what we have here and the equipment is going to go from the Gulf down there.

But again, George Soros has nothing to gain from this. He is just telling the president what to do through the Center for American Progress. Soros Fund Management, LLC — I guess we should tell you this — holds a stake in Petrobras. That is the oil company in Brazil in the amount of $900 million as of December 31, 2009.

Petrobras, the Brazilian oil company, that the Obama administration — get this — the Obama administration is now lending $2 billion to. You ready? Wait for it. What is the $2 billion going for? To perform offshore drilling in Brazil.

Let’s see if I have this right: We ban it here; we lose the jobs here; we send the rigs down there; we loan Brazil the money to do the drilling in deeper water; the oil company — the big investor is George Soros who is advising the president on how he should handle the Gulf. Hmm.

via ‘Glenn Beck’: Who Gains From Offshore Drilling Moratorium? – Glenn Beck – FOXNews.com.
 
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Anonymous

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I have only one question-- Did you all scream as loud back in the 1980's when Ronald Reagan signed the first off shore drilling moratoriums-- or in 1990 when Bush the 1st signed a 10 year moratorium on many offshore areas-- or when GW paid off the oil companies to give up their offshore leases :???:

Chronology of Moratoria on Offshore Drilling

From 1981 through 1986, the Senate was controlled by a Republican majority, the House had a Democratic majority, and Republican Ronald Reagan was President. It was during this time that the first moratoria on oil and gas leasing were put in place.

In 1981, Congress voted to stop the sale of leases off the coast of Northern California. The moratorium was included in the Interior Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year 1982. The provision was supported by almost every member of the California delegation from both political parties. It was approved by the House and by the Republican-majority Senate, and signed it into law by President Reagan.


In 1982, Congress extended the moratorium for Northern California and expanded the area to include the Central California coast. The House also approved an amendment by Republican Congressman Jim Courter to prohibit leases off the coast of New Jersey. Again, the majority-Republican Senate approved the bill and Reagan signed it into law. In 1983, the moratoria on offshore leases were continued in Northern and Central California and were expanded to include Southern California, the Florida Gulf Coast, and the Georges Bank off the coast of New England. Republican and Democratic Members of the California and Florida delegations pushed for the moratoria. The Republican-majority Senate approved the Interior Appropriations Act and President Reagan signed it into law.


In 1984, the Interior Appropriations Act for FY 1985 continued the ban on offshore leases off the coasts of California and New England.


In 1985, Donald Hodel replaced James Watt as Secretary of the Interior. Secretary Hodel began negotiating an agreement with Congress to prohibit leases off many coastal areas in exchange for the authority to lease tracts in a few areas. Hodel began negotiating with the California Delegation. Republican Congressman Bill Lowery of San Diego, a member of the Appropriations Committee, was a leading advocate for continuing the moratorium on leases off Southern California throughout his Congressional career.


In 1986, the Interior Appropriations Act for FY 1987 included an agreement to delay offshore lease sales off the coast of California until 1989, after the end of the Reagan Administration. The Republican-majority Senate approved the moratorium and President Reagan signed it into law.


Democrats gained majority control of the Senate in the 1986 election. From 1987 through 1992, the House and Senate had Democratic majorities while the President was a Republican. During this time, the only major change in offshore leasing policy was President George H.W. Bush's executive order to implement a 10-year moratorium on drilling off the coasts of California, Florida, and New England.


The Exxon Valdez spill off the Alaskan Coast in March 1989 increased environmental concerns. The Interior Appropriations Act for FY 1990 includes moratoria on leases off of California, Florida, Massachusetts, Bristol Bay of Alaska, and the Atlantic Ocean from Rhode Island to Maryland. President Bush signed the bill into law.


In June 1990, President George Bush announced a 10-year moratorium on drilling off California, Florida, and New England. The Interior Appropriations Act for FY 1991 included one-year bans on leases for areas not covered in Bush's order, including Bristol Bay in Alaska, the Florida Panhandle, and the Atlantic from New Jersey to Maryland.


From 1991 to 2007, the Interior Appropriations Act for each year included moratoria on drilling except off the coasts of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and parts of Alaska. There was no significant change in policy toward offshore drilling even though Republicans controlled Congress for twelve years from 1995 through 2006.


In 1998, President Bill Clinton extended the moratoria on offshore leases off the coasts of California, Florida, and New England until 2012. These moratoria had been instituted by President George H.W. Bush in 1990.


In 2002, the George W. Bush Administration announced a settlement with Chevron, Conoco, and Murphy under which the federal government paid them $115 million to relinquish leases off the Florida Panhandle. The Administration entered into these negotiations at the urging of the President's brother Jeb, the Governor of Florida.


Interior Secretary Gale Norton also proposed to pay the Collier family $120 million to relinquish mineral rights in the Everglades, and allow the Colliers to take a $350 million tax deduction. The Colliers said the mineral rights were worth $472 million, but the National Park Services estimated they were worth $20 million and the Inspector General of the Department of Interior estimated they were worth no more than $43 million. Congress blocked the deal, but the Colliers continue to threaten to drill in the Everglades in order to try to force the government to buy them out.


During a lame duck session in December 2006, Congress and President Bush opened up a few portions of the Central Gulf of Mexico to new lease sales. This was the only expansion of offshore leasing during the six years that the Republicans controlled the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.

Since 1981, Congress has included the moratorium in the interior appropriations bill for each fiscal year. The interior appropriations bill takes effect on October 1 of each year, and expires on September 30 of the following year. Congress has not passed an interior appropriations bill for fiscal year 2009. Because of this, the moratorium will expire on September 30. The ban will be lifted October 1, the start of the new fiscal year
 

hopalong

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Where is your source on that paste oldtimer, or are you a bull humper crys about plagerizing????

The reason there is more out cry now is the fact YOUR buddy bam bam is on the verge of driving this country into bankruptcy and you are worried about the fact that past presidents not of your likeing were not fighting an economic disaster that we are currentlyt facing???

EH???
EH?????
EH?????

Face it, you can blame all those in the past but you have no real argument!!! :roll: :roll:
 

Larrry

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So is ot condemning obama along with his condemnation of the other instances.















ot is however comparing apples to oranges...but first I wonder if he is a hypocrite on his stance on this along with all his other hypocritical stances
 

hopalong

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Besides how does oldtimer know there was no outrage other than the fact he is blinded by his own self worth :wink:

EH??????
 

Tam

Well-known member
Notice how Oldtimer skipped right over the fact the Obama is using US tax payer funds to funded Off shore drilling in a country where his Buddy Soros is heavily invested in Oil, while banning it in the US.

Tell us Oldtimer were other US Presidents as big of HYPOCRITES about off shore drilling as OBAMA?

Why is it good for Brazil and companies Soros is invested in but not good for the US and it's oil companies?
 

Larrry

Well-known member
You know I quit going to snopes for verification on issues. They are as liberal mas asking obama himself. They might get somethings right, but you never know if they are right or wrong.
They have proven they are not credible, so no use wasting my time on them.
 

Tam

Well-known member
Looted from American taxpayers, Obama's commitments at the G 20 conference could easily surpass trillions of dollars
Obama Endorses Soros Plan to Loot America
By Cliff Kincaid Friday, April 3, 2009
At the G 20 summit in London, President Barack Obama won rave reviews from reporters, many of whom clamored like school kids for the chance to ask him a question at his news conference, but the official conference document proves that plans are being made for what can only be described as the further looting of American taxpayers in order to feed unaccountable and corrupt global entities.



This is not “global cooperation,” as so many in the media described it, but a massive new expansion of the power and authority of international agencies and institutions such as the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.

By embracing the “global plan for recovery and reform,” which is how it was officially described, Obama explicitly endorsed International Monetary Fund (IMF) surveillance of the U.S. economy, creation of a global “Financial Stability Board,” the expanded use of a new global currency called Special Drawing Rights, a new global warming treaty, and costly fulfillment of the United Nations Millennium Development Goals (MDGs). This is in addition to the explicit and reported commitment of over $1 trillion in additional taxpayer money to the IMF and the World Bank.

The Special Drawing Rights proposal, which is a vehicle for further U.S. foreign aid to the rest of the world, was the brainchild of billionaire George Soros, who told CNBC’s Maria Bartiromo that the G 20 conference was a “success.”

Dubbed the “Lenin of the 21st Century” by the Ripon Forum magazine, because of his apparent transformation from super-capitalist into “neo-Marxist,” Soros waged an expensive but unsuccessful campaign to defeat President George W. Bush for re-election in 2004. He has been determined to install a puppet in the White House.

In addition to financing Democratic Party politicians and left-wing organizations such as the ACLU, he has subsidized a wide array of liberal causes, ranging from abortion rights to gay rights to legalization of dangerous drugs. Even former members of the terrorist Weather Underground, such as Bernardine Dohrn and Linda Evans, have appeared at functions sponsored by his so-called Open Society Institute or accepted its grants.

Soros had backed Obama for president in 2008, saying that he had “the charisma and the vision to radically reorient America in the world.” His prediction seems to be eerily coming true.

In the final analysis, the grand total of money to be looted from American taxpayers as a result of Obama’s commitments at the G 20 conference could easily surpass trillions of dollars. In a major understatement, the official conference document calls it “unprecedented and concerted fiscal expansion.”

But while Obama endorsed the document and its recommendations, the Congress of the United States can still have some say over whether some of the commitments he made are put into law.

Consider the commitment to the U.N. MDGs, for example. The document includes the statement that “we reaffirm our historic commitment to meeting the Millennium Development Goals…” This is, in fact, a disguised attempt to make then-Senator Obama’s Global Poverty Act the law of the land through executive action. This measure alone has been estimated to cost $845 billion and it was never passed by Congress because of public opposition. In similar fashion, the current Congress can also resist compliance with the U.N. mandate.

“We will support, now and in the future, to candid, even-handed, and independent IMF surveillance of our economies and financial sectors, of the impact of our policies on others, and of risks facing the global economy,” the document states. There is no exception for the U.S. Hence, the IMF will now be in a position to officially monitor and pass judgment on U.S. economic policies. We have become like any other second- or third-rate power in need of global oversight and supervision.

The proposed “new Financial Stability Board (FSB)” will have a “strengthened mandate” and work with the IMF to “reshape our regulatory systems.” Among other things, its mission is to “assess vulnerabilities affecting the financial system, identify and oversee action needed to address them,” “promote co-ordination and information exchange among authorities responsible for financial stability,” and “monitor and advise on market developments and their implications for regulatory policy.”

The Financial Stability Board is the new name for a more powerful and expanded Financial Stability Forum, a body originally designed to “promote international financial stability through information exchange and international co-operation in financial supervision and surveillance.” Members of the group include the central banks of various nations, international financial institutions, and supervisors in important financial centers.

The document also states that “we call on the UN, working with other global institutions, to establish an effective mechanism to monitor the impact of the crisis on the poorest and most vulnerable.”

Is this the same U.N. that has achieved a reputation for corruption, fraud, waste, and incompetence? Is this the organization whose “peacekeepers” have been found guilty of the sexual abuse of women and children around the world? It is one and the same.

In the name of holding big banks accountable, therefore, Obama has put the U.S. in the hands of “global institutions” that are somehow supposed to help provide a “global solution” to the “global crisis.” If anything, the record demonstrates that these institutions make human problems worse, not better.

Nevertheless, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown declared that “A new world order is emerging and with it we’re entering into a new era of international cooperation.”

But viewed in another light, Obama has sold out the sovereignty of the United States and has laid the groundwork for the death of the U.S. dollar as the world’s dominant currency. While President Bush started this insidious process of holding G 20 meetings, Obama has taken the process much further down the road. It is truly unprecedented.

The “London Summit ‚Äï Leaders’ Statement,” dated April 2, 2009, was only nine pages, and there were some vague and confusing statements in it. But much of it was both understandable and frightening, if reporters would only take the time to bother to read it.

“We have agreed to support a general SDR allocation which will inject $250 billion into the world economy and increase global liquidity, and urgent ratification of the Fourth Amendment,” the document says. Basic research would disclose that this is a reference to Special Drawing Rights, a so-called international “reserve asset” which under the Obama plan would evolve into a kind of new global currency based on the willingness of the U.S. and other countries to dramatically increase funding of the IMF. In the words of the IMF, a Special Drawing Right is “a potential claim on the freely usable currencies of IMF members.” That means that its worth is based in part on claims to U.S. taxpayer dollars. It is a new form of foreign aid.

The reference to ratifying the Fourth Amendment (of the IMF Articles of Agreement) means that Obama has agreed that the U.S. will vote to greatly expand the use of SDRs. But the Congress can have a say in this.

This proposal had been demanded by billionaire leftist George Soros. Indeed, according to a news account in advance of the London meeting, he had come up with the specific $250 billion figure.

As we had documented years ago, Soros has long viewed Special Drawing Rights as a variation of a global tax to finance more foreign aid. Expanding the use of SDRs is another obvious effort to drain wealth away from the United States.

The two annexes to the G 20 document are full of detailed recommendations for regulating such matters as pay and compensation at financial institutions and “international standards in relation to tax transparency.” One of the main objectives is to reduce the ability of people and corporations to avoid high tax rates.

“We reaffirm our commitment to address the threat of irreversible climate change, based on the principle of common but differentiated responsibilities, and to reach agreement at the UN Climate Change conference in Copenhagen in December 2009,” the document states. This is a commitment to sign a new global warming treaty that could cost the U.S. economy even more trillions of dollars. But this agreement would also require Congressional approval.

In a virtual throwaway line, the document calls for extending “regulation and oversight to all systemically important financial institutions, instruments and markets,” including “for the first time, systemically important hedge funds…”

If such a proposal were actually implemented, and there are strong doubts that it ever would be, such supervision could possibly shed some light on the mysterious behind-the-scenes activities of George Soros himself, one of Obama’s biggest backers, who was convicted of insider trading in France.

While decrying the lack of regulation, Soros has made billions of dollars operating a secretive off-shore financial hedge fund and manipulating international financial markets and foreign currencies.

Known as “the man who almost broke the Bank of England” and described by some as “extremely evil,” Soros engaged in a complex financial transaction that resulted in the Bank of England losing billions of dollars defending the British pound before having to devalue it. He has controversial investments in places like Colombia, where the banks have been penetrated by drug cartels eager to launder their drug money.

In a major court case filed by the law offices of David H. Relkin, Soros has recently been charged with “money laundering, bankruptcy fraud, and bid rigging” and of having a “pattern of money laundering activities” that includes the investment in the Colombian bank and using an off-shore tax haven that protects the identity of investors from disclosure. A Soros representative was quoted by the Reuters news agency as saying that the lawsuit was completely without merit.

The Soros role in the U.S. housing market collapse continues to be the subject of speculation, interest and even Congressional hearings. The collapse of the financial system in mid-September greatly damaged the electoral chances of John McCain and Sarah Palin, who were ahead in the polls at the time, and paved the way for Obama’s victory.

In 2008, Soros was once again on the list of highest-paid hedge fund managers, according to Institutional Investor magazine’s Alpha publication. He made $1.1 billion during the economic collapse and recession.

Time to face the freaking facts Soros (“the man who almost broke the Bank of England” and described by some as “extremely evil,”) bought and paid for and IS ADVISING Obama and if people don't smarten up he is going to use his puppet to destroy the US just like he has tried to do to other countries.

BTW Looking to a liberal left radical site like Snopes for facts is like looking to Obama, without the use of a teleprompter and speech writer, for an intellegent conversation. You can Hope but just isn't going to happen. :wink: :roll:
 

Steve

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hurleyjd said:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/braziloil.asp

Obama Underwrites Offshore Drilling

The U.S. Export-Import Bank tells us it has issued a "preliminary commitment" letter to Petrobras in the amount of $2 billion and has discussed with Brazil the possibility of increasing that amount
Source.. Wall Street Journal.

Obama backs off-shore drilling! Update: A Soros connection?

His New York-based hedge-fund firm, Soros Fund Management LLC, sold 22 million U.S.-listed common shares of Petrobras, as the Brazilian oil company is known, according to a filing today with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Soros bought 5.8 million of the company’s U.S.-traded preferred shares.

Soros is taking advantage of the spread between the two types of U.S.-listed Petrobras shares,

Obama could have stopped the deal...But he didn't

Obama could have made the rules tighter and stricter and opened up our shore line to exploration.. but he didn't..

I think the key facts here is that while Obama "banned" offshore drilling on our coasts, .. the Obama administration funds it elsewhere and a friend of his make a bundle of money off the deal....
 

Tam

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hurleyjd said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

So what is your point, are you defending Soros by posting this website?

BTW even the Editor of Wikipedia says you should not take them seriously and maybe this should explain why?

According the wikipedia
Soros was thirteen years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary.[16] Soros worked for the Jewish Council,[8] which had been established during the Nazi occupation of Hungary to forcibly carry out Nazi and Hungarian government anti-Jewish measures.[17][18] Soros later described this time to writer Michael Lewis:

The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper...It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 a.m....And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, "You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported."[19]

In 1944, at age 14, Soros lived with and posed as the godson of an employee of the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture. On one occasion, the official was ordered to inventory the remaining contents of the estate of a wealthy Jewish family that had fled the country.[20] Rather than leave the young George alone in the city, the official brought him along.

But Soro's admits to far worse
George Soros Not Sorry He Helped Nazis Kill His Fellow Jews In WWIIby Chris Jones on September 7, 2010 ·


George Soros is an even worse person than we thought. His real name is George Schwartz and he was a Jew living in Hungary when the Nazis invaded.

George’s father changed the family name to something less Jewish-sounding (Soros). As a teenager George went to work for the Judenrat (the name is self explanatory). This was a council of Jewish collaborators set up by the Nazis to aide them in their extermination efforts.Then his father found him an even better gig:

Theodore hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.

By collaborating with the Nazis, George survived the Holocaust. He turned on other Jews to spare himself.

After the war, George moved to London and then New York where he became a stockbroker and a billionaire. He’s the 35th richest man in the world to be exact.

You could say that young George was just doing what he had to in order to survive, right? Fair enough, but the fact that he aided in the near extermination of his own people probably still haunts him to this day, right?

Not so much.

Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes asked him that. Was it difficult? “Not at all,” Soros answered.

“No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said Soros. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”

That explains a lot about the man who almost single handedly funds the radical left.


Be proud you are trying to defend a guy that helpped the Nazis KILL his fellow Jews and confiscate their property and he has no guilt by his own admission. Do you really think he is going to have any guilt when he uses Obama to destroys the US economy just to prove he can? THE MAN HAS NO CONSCIOUS AND HE HAS A NARCISSIS AS A PUPPET. One very dangerous combination and people better smarten up fast, or kiss the US as we know it GOODBYE. :x
 
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