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9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public

hypocritexposer

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9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public

(Voltaire)

As official videographer for the U.S. government, Kurt Sonnenfeld was detailed to Ground Zero on September 11, 2001, where he spent one month filming 29 tapes: “What I saw at certain moments and in certain places … is very disturbing!” He never handed them over to the authorities and has been persecuted ever since. Kurt Sonnenfeld lives in exile in Argentina, where he wrote « El Perseguido » (the persecuted). His recently-published book tells the story of his unending nightmare and drives another nail into the coffin of the government’s account of the 9/11 events. Below is an exclusive interview by Voltairenet.

On September 11, 2001, the area known as “Ground Zero” was sealed from the public eye. Sonnenfeld, however, was given unrestricted access enabling him to document for the investigation (that never took place) and provide some “sanitized” pool video to virtually every news network in the world. The tapes that reveal some of the anomalies which he discovered at Ground Zero are still in his possession.

Accused of a crime that did not occur in a manifest frame-up scenario, Kurt Sonnenfeld has been persecuted across continents. After several years of fear, injustice and isolation, he has decided to take a public stand against the Government’s official story and is prepared to submit his material to the close scrutiny of reliable experts.

One interesting statement this guy makes is that FEMA had set up a command centre in NY on Sept 10, 2001

and then it was very odd to me when I learned that FEMA and several other federal agencies had already moved into position at their command center at Pier 92 on September 10th, one day before the attacks!

Interview and pictures @

http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html
 

Sandhusker

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reader (the Second) said:
And I've got a cool place for you to investigate in New Mexico called Area 51 :lol: :lol: :lol:

You are definitely bored out of your gourd, but more than that you are lacking some screws.

Check your map again.
 

hypocritexposer

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Reader, can you prove that there were no WMD's

Did Bush take the US to war in Iraq for Oil?

How about man-made global warming? What about BSE causing vCJD?

See these are theories?

This guy can prove that he took pictures of airplane tires, a turbine etc. He does not believe the official account of 9/11 has been totally honest.

Do you believe the administration was totally honest about the war in Iraq? But they were totally honest about 9/11 right?

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hypocritexposer

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Good Republican you turned out to be, disseminating material accusing the Bush administration of murdering 3000 Americans to start the Iraq War.

9/11 truthers were originally democrats (Bush Haters), I don't believe what they believe, except that I don't believe the whole truth has been revealed.

Do I have to go back and find the quotes of who posted crap about Bush/Cheney fabricating evidence about WMD in Iraq, to justify war in the middle east? or not acting on intelligence about 9/11 before it happened.

How about the fire fighters that were present at 9/11, are they kooks too. Notice that none of what I have posted accuses the Bush administration of being involved in 9/11. Just that there are unanswered scientific questions.


It has been you, Reader, that has jumped to that interpretation of the evidence.

Here's a thought provoking question. Could the terrorists have also carried Thermite onto the highjacked planes? If so, don't you think for the safety of all, they should invetigate and determine where they might have gotten such a material?

The evidence summarized below proves conclusively that 3 World Trade Center buildings should have been tested for “exotic accelerants.” It also establishes the most probable cause of collapse on 9/11/2001 to be the result of controlled demolitions. It makes no attempt to determine why, or to imply by whom. From a scientific standpoint, it is inadvisable to leap to conclusions because there are always scenarios we may not be prepared to imagine. In science, as in life, an open mind is a good thing.
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/?cat=11

An EMT (Emergency Medical Technician) who was present at Ground Zero has revealed that he was warned on-scene that Building 7 of the World Trade Center was being brought down by controlled demolition and that a 20-second demolition countdown was broadcast over radio preceding its collapse

Further confirmation of a demolition countdown comes via former U.S. Air Force Special Operations Search & Rescue and medic Kevin McPadden who was assisting victims at Ground Zero and has testified that there was a countdown for demolition on WTC 7:

It is conceivable that there was a bio-threat airborne in the CIA undercover New York station in Building 7 capable of wiping out 20 million people if it wasn’t immediately neutralized by the use of Thermate. Although that is unlikely, it remains possible and therefore, scientifically, it stands as an unknown, as do many other unknowns.
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/?cat=11


I like Hayden. I know a lot about him and everything I know is positive. I liked what he said about CIA and I believed him when he said that he works for Negroponte and has no conflict of interest. Did you hear him talk about "alternative analysis"? Good idea.
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=110954&highlight=evidence+wmd#110954

This photographer's conclusion may be incorrect, but that does not mean his visual evidence on certain anomalies is not valid.

FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) Report 403, World Trade Center Building Performance Study, 2002, clearly states that all jet fuel was totally consumed within the first few minutes after impact.

Scientist Kevin Ryan concludes that the rapid fuel consumption was an additional reason why it was impossible for the fires to have melted the structured steel: ―Including the fact that only 4,000 gallons of jet fuel were available to feed the fires in the impact zone and that was gone in a flash-fire in 5 minutes.‖
 

hypocritexposer

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reader (the Second) said:
He's a paranoid meglomaniac from his writings and you should be ashamed for posting crap like this.

Even more disturbing is that countries where there is strong anti-American sentiment are using him and his theories to say that the Bush government brought down the Twin Towers and killed 3000 people to justify a war in the Middle East.

This is one of your lowest moments on PB.

You are sullying your US citizenship and your country and it makes me sick.

Good Republican you turned out to be, disseminating material accusing the Bush administration of murdering 3000 Americans to start the Iraq War.

Or don't you bother reading what you post? :mad:

Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld thought they were helping their buddies the U.S. oil industry by attacking Saddam Hussain. Pure and simple. And their neo-con advisors thought it would change the balance of power in the Middle East -- which it did but not necessarily in a good way since it made Iran more powerful.
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=339072&highlight=oil+iraq+bush#339072

Are you saying that Bush/Cheney started a war, that killed many in Iraq, including US military, to help out their oil buddies?

Even more disturbing is that countries where there is strong anti-American sentiment are using this type of theory to say that the Americans are stealing oil and to justify a war in the Middle East.

This is one of your lowest moments on PB.

You are sullying your US citizenship and your country and it makes me sick.

Good Liberal you turned out to be, disseminating material accusing the Bush administration of murdering many in the name of his oil buddies.

Or don't you bother reading what you post?

:mad: :mad:
 

hypocritexposer

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I am saying that he is one of very few that has visual evidence of the aftermath of 911. Some of it may be useful in determining the scientific reasons for the collapse.

Does not mean that I believe everything that he has said.

Do you believe everything in the articles you post?

Here's a part of the interview I agree with.

Kurt Sonnenfeld: I am convinced that my tapes reveal many more anomalies than I am capable of recognizing given my limited qualifications. I will therefore cooperate in any way that I can with serious and reliable experts in a common endeavour to expose the truth.

You're little game, trying to demonize and isolate me won't work Reader. Why don't you list these conspiracy theories you think I believe in. Don't say man-made global warming, verdict's still out on that one, what do you believe? Need more scientific evidence.

How bout BSE causing vCJD, nope don't believe in that one either. Could be enviornmental, but affecting both cattle and humans at the same time. Need more scientific evidence.

Satanic groups taking over banks? Nope, but someone is taking over the financial system, could be elite bankers.

Any others you want to tackle?

UFO's that must be it. I did see a flying object I could not identify last night. You caught me.
 

hopalong

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Area 51 is in New Mexico?????

Wow that is amazing!
And reader expects people to believe her????? :roll: :roll: :roll: :wink:
Guess all those trips to the foreign countries has her geography all screwed up, to say nothing about her beliefs :wink: :wink: :wink:

Might need to check with one of your friends about the location!!!


Area 51 is a nickname for a military base that is located in the southern portion of Nevada in the western United States (83 miles north-northwest of downtown Las Vegas). Situated at its center, on the southern shore of Groom Lake, is a large secretive military airfield. The base's primary purpose is to support development and testing of experimental aircraft and weapons systems.[1][2]

The base lies within the United States Air Force's vast Nevada Test and Training Range. Although the facilities at the range are managed by the 99th Air Base Wing at Nellis Air Force Base, the Groom facility appears to be run as an adjunct of the Air Force Flight Test Center (AFFTC) at Edwards Air Force Base in the Mojave Desert, around 186 miles (300 km) southwest of Groom, and as such the base is known as Air Force Flight Test Center (Detachment 3).[3][4]

Other names used for the facility include Dreamland, Paradise Ranch,[5][6] Home Base, Watertown Strip, Groom Lake,[7] and most recently Homey Airport.[8] The area is part of the Nellis Military Operations Area, and the restricted airspace around the field is referred to as (R-4808N[9]), known by the military pilots in the area as "The Box."

The intense secrecy surrounding the base, the very existence of which the U.S. government barely acknowledges, has led it to become the frequent subject of conspiracy theories and a central component to unidentified flying object (UFO) folklore.[6]
 

burnt

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Well Hypo, ya got some pretty interesting responses!!!!

Talk about a bit of righteous indignation getting spewed about!!

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
 

Steve

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―Including the fact that only 4,000 gallons of jet fuel were available to feed the fires in the impact zone and that was gone in a flash-fire in 5 minutes.‖

having been trained in firefighting methods, techniques and theory and been scene leader at several jet fuel or JP5 fires.. it doesn't go away that fast.. not even at extreme temperatures..

even at an electrical fire that melted a 400 gallon day tank, it took nearly eight minutes to extinguish the fire.. and it was a damn hot eight minutes I will never forget.. afterwords there was several hundred gallons of fuel and afff that had to be pumped into a storage tank.

so to say 4000 gallons was gone in five minutes then it must have had a hellacious dispersal and temps beyond comprehension..


remember this on September 11, one of the worst tragedy in our history happened. thousands were killed.. many more injured and scarred for life.. some of us knew first hand some of those who died that day..

some including myself had family in the world trade centers, and in New York that day.. while I want truth to prevail in every situation.. for me or any one else to constantly have to defend each theory is like digging up a dead person,.. fact might satisfy a normal person.. and at a certain point the quest for facts becomes morbid..
 

hypocritexposer

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some including myself had family in the world trade centers, and in New York that day.. while I want truth to prevail in every situation.. for me or any one else to constantly have to defend each theory is like digging up a dead person,.. fact might satisfy a normal person.. and at a certain point the quest for facts becomes morbid..

I fully understand that Steve. And others need to realize as much of the truth as possible, to fully understand and come to some closure.

Discounting that search for the truth, as a conspiracy theory and foolishness is an abandonment of science and compassion.

There are truths of 911 that never need to be known, and others that should be known for future safety etc.

The official story is lacking.
 
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Anonymous

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Besides the fact of having 1000's of gallons of JP5--pancaking and implosion of skyscrapers from the heat caused by their own fuel load which weakens the entire structure- and then having one floor fall onto the next bringing down the entire building has been a known fact for many years- and the fear of every major city firefighter entering a tall structure fire....
I attended the National Fire Academy in abou 1980- and it was being taught then as a part of fire investigation..
 

hypocritexposer

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pancaking does not happen at, or near freefall speed.

But no matter, my point was not to debate the science, but to bring to others' attention that some possible further evidence was going to become available.
 
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hypocritexposer said:
pancaking does not happen at, or near freefall speed.

There is a long history around the world- of pancaking skyscrapers at freefall speed....
Heat weakens steel-- and you combine heat- and more weight than the steel was meant to take- and floors fall- and create pancaking....

I watched the buildings go down on tv- and it was identical to the videos from previous disasters from around the world I'd been during training...

Keep believing your nutcase whacko authors-- keep looking for those space aliens with their anal probe :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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That whole period is a blur for people in NYC and Washington DC.

I agree Reader. And that is possibly one reason to re-evaluate the scientific evidence behind the whole tragedy.

Within hours of the collapses, everything was figured out, blame was assigned, and the gun was cocked.

That is one of the reasons I believe a little more thorough investigation is warranted.

No conspiracy theory, just some objective reasoning.
 

nonothing

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hypocritexposer said:
That whole period is a blur for people in NYC and Washington DC.

I agree Reader. And that is possibly one reason to re-evaluate the scientific evidence behind the whole tragedy.

Within hours of the collapses, everything was figured out, blame was assigned, and the gun was cocked.

That is one of the reasons I believe a little more thorough investigation is warranted.

No conspiracy theory, just some objective reasoning.

Just stop it Hypo....Let those who lost love ones heal and those that passed rest in peace.....This stuff helps nothing no matter the end result...3000 famlies lost love ones that day..Let it go ..
 
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