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9 out of 10 Poorest States are Republican Voting States

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Pro-Democrat group says 9 of the 10 poorest states are Republican



The partisan blogosphere is filled with arguments over whether liberal or conservative policies are better for states. No matter what is proposed -- cutting the sales tax, raising the minimum wage, etc. -- someone can always come up with a state to cite as an example of why it's a good (or bad) idea.

But we were struck by this claim posted by the pro-Democrat group Occupy Democrats on Facebook:

"If Republican economic policies are so great for America, how come 9 out of the 10 poorest states are Red states?"

We're not going to rule on the cause-and-effect question posed by the posting. Yet because Red states have a reputation for being more business-friendly, and because many argue that pro-business policies lead to better lives for everyone, we wondered whether the Occupy Democrats' claim was correct.

When we emailed Occupy Democrats, founder Omar Rivero sent us links to several sources including a sortable Wikipedia table based on the 2010 U.S. Census, along with more recent data from the U.S. Department of Commerce Bureau of Economic Analysis. We also did our own search of the U.S. Census database.

We’ll start with the standard definition of a Red state: one that voted for the Republican candidate in the most recent presidential election.

It should be noted that there are different ways to measure poverty. Occupy Democrats says its claim is based on per-person income. We looked at that, along with median household income and median family income.

By all three measures, 9 out of the 10 poorest states voted Republican in the last presidential election. (In fact, they voted Red in the last four elections.)

According to the latest Census data, 9 of the 10 states with the lowest per-person income levels were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, Idaho, West Virginia, Kentucky, Utah, Alabama, South Carolina and Oklahoma.

The Census data also show that 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median household income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, South Carolina and Oklahoma.

And 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median family income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Louisiana and South Carolina.

The only Blue state on each list: New Mexico.

By the way, 9 of the 10 states with the highest per-person income voted Blue in the 2012 presidential race: Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Virginia and Washington. The only Red state on the list: Alaska.


Our ruling

Occupy Democrats said "Nine out of the 10 poorest states are Red states."

Whether you look at per-person, household, or family income, nine out of the ten poorest states voted Republican in the last four presidential elections.

The judges rule the statement is True.




Interesting figures.....Any Republicans care to explain this?
 

Mike

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Yes. Those numbers mean absolutely nothing. Take Alabama for instance, (and we're on the list) recently the Republicans have gained control of the Democratic Congress here in the state. Not too long ago, the first Republican governor was elected.

For too many years, the voters were the old Democrats that were duped by the false FDR bullchit and thought they had to vote Democrat. Those old idiots (my ancestors included) voted along with the Blacks and kept things Democratically controlled in Alabama.

Those old voters are finally dying out and people have come to their senses. Things are finally looking up.

Plus we have an overabundance of 'coons' that keep the welfare lines full.

NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!
When Americans talk about the South, they tend to be talking about the past. When they talk about Southern politics, they tend to be talking about the old, stereotyped “Solid South”—that uniformly conservative, racist, anti-union, snake-handling cluster of former Confederate states that voted en masse for Democrats from the pre–Civil War through civil rights, then switched their allegiance to the former “party of Lincoln” beginning in the 1970s. Once LBJ and the Democrats betrayed the cause of white supremacy and Richard Nixon cooked up the “Southern Strategy,” the region became as solidly Republican as it once was Democratic. End of story.

Southern politics has never been quite so uncomplicated as that. It took decades for Republicans to outnumber Democrats, and Republican control of the region has never matched the Democrats’ former hegemony. The South has been contested ground for 40 years, with the GOP dominating federal elections and gradually cutting into the Democrats’ hold on state and local offices—culminating in 2012, when Arkansas’s legislature became the last to go Republican
 

Martin Jr.

Well-known member
I don't know, but I know people who have always had a low income, but were not poor, and some with a larger income were poor. A lot has to do with how your income is spent, and poor choices in life.
 

Tam

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A list of the top ten deepest in debt States in 2011 and who controls their State spending after the Nov 2012 election

1. Rhode Island Democrat
2. Conn. Democrat
3. Mass. Democrat
4. Illinois Democrat
5. Hawaii Democrat
6. New Jersey Democrat
7. New Hampshire Democrat
8. Indiana Republican
9. Louisana Republican
10.. Oklahoma Republican


Friday, December 10, 2010 13 state legislative chambers change hands in every two-year election cycle. In this cycle, the following 21 chambers all moved to the Republican column:


Alabama House & Senate
Montana House
Colorado House
New Hampshire House & Senate
Indiana House
New York Senate
Iowa House
North Carolina House & Senate
Louisiana House
Ohio House
Maine House & Senate
Pennsylvania House
Michigan House
Wisconsin Assembly & Senate
Minnesota House & Senate

Looks like NH went back to the Dems in 2012 but to blame the Republicans as controlling the poorest states is VERY QUESTIONABLE.


BTW since we have your attention, how many times have you closed a case as a lawman without talking to the victims or their lawyers?
 

Larrry

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Ot. Now what was it you said obama has done to turn this economy around. What has he accomplished that makes peoples lives better than five years ago
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Pro-Democrat group says 9 of the 10 poorest states are Republican



The partisan blogosphere is filled with arguments over whether liberal or conservative policies are better for states. No matter what is proposed -- cutting the sales tax, raising the minimum wage, etc. -- someone can always come up with a state to cite as an example of why it's a good (or bad) idea.

But we were struck by this claim posted by the pro-Democrat group Occupy Democrats on Facebook:

"If Republican economic policies are so great for America, how come 9 out of the 10 poorest states are Red states?"

We're not going to rule on the cause-and-effect question posed by the posting. Yet because Red states have a reputation for being more business-friendly, and because many argue that pro-business policies lead to better lives for everyone, we wondered whether the Occupy Democrats' claim was correct.

When we emailed Occupy Democrats, founder Omar Rivero sent us links to several sources including a sortable Wikipedia table based on the 2010 U.S. Census, along with more recent data from the U.S. Department of Commerce Bureau of Economic Analysis. We also did our own search of the U.S. Census database.

We’ll start with the standard definition of a Red state: one that voted for the Republican candidate in the most recent presidential election.

It should be noted that there are different ways to measure poverty. Occupy Democrats says its claim is based on per-person income. We looked at that, along with median household income and median family income.

By all three measures, 9 out of the 10 poorest states voted Republican in the last presidential election. (In fact, they voted Red in the last four elections.)

According to the latest Census data, 9 of the 10 states with the lowest per-person income levels were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, Idaho, West Virginia, Kentucky, Utah, Alabama, South Carolina and Oklahoma.

The Census data also show that 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median household income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, South Carolina and Oklahoma.

And 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median family income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Louisiana and South Carolina.

The only Blue state on each list: New Mexico.

By the way, 9 of the 10 states with the highest per-person income voted Blue in the 2012 presidential race: Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Virginia and Washington. The only Red state on the list: Alaska.


Our ruling

Occupy Democrats said "Nine out of the 10 poorest states are Red states."

Whether you look at per-person, household, or family income, nine out of the ten poorest states voted Republican in the last four presidential elections.

The judges rule the statement is True.




Interesting figures.....Any Republicans care to explain this?

Borowitz.....it's gotta be

So many holes in articles I'd swear it was ots fences
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
OT, out of curiosity since you are a BIG venture fella... what happens when you sell a product for $10,000 but it costs you $12,000 to produce it?

Your gross income would be higher than someone producing the same number of sold items for $8,000, but only costing them $6,000 to produce.

But what about the most important figure- the NET income?


I understand that most people that read that article, like you, just don't get it.

California is one of the states with the highest per person incomes. Wonder why so many people are moving? Because they can't afford to live there. Look at home prices, living expenses that are elevated to pass on stupidity to the people voting for it, taxes, environmental fees, etc....

If you want to know how rich a state is, you really need someone with an economical background, not a political motivation. And when you are serious, look at discretionary income of individuals and families. That is one of the best indications of net income or true wealth.

I can promise you that I've worked with enough people FROM California, and FROM the East Coast, that I'm fully aware of why there is an exodus of average working families to the Oklahoma and Texas region.

I've lived in Colorado and I can promise you that the cost of living there is tremendous compared to Oklahoma, Texas, or Kansas. People live there because of the beauty, and they pay for it. Housing is 3 to 4 times more costly and groceries are at least twice. But the pay scale is no where near as elevated.

I expect this to go right over your head, it has too much math (subtracting income vs expenses) and doesn't praise your progressive ideologies of something for nothing and wanting somebody else to pay your way.
 

Steve

Well-known member
: Mississippi,
Arkansas,
Idaho,
West Virginia,
Kentucky,
Utah,
Alabama,
South Carolina
and Oklahoma.
Tennessee,
Louisiana,


The only Blue state on each list: New Mexico.

maybe they are looking at the wrong end of the list.. income earning is only one factor.. a guy could live really well off $50,000 in many mid-western states.. he would do fine here in the southern end of New Jersey.. but up around NYC he would be scrapping by..

same could be said for upstate New York.. for most rural communities he could get along fine,.. would struggle in most cities.. and be scrapping by in most New york city boroughs. (forget about Manhattan.. their homeless make more then that.. )

so what are the states with the lowest cost of living..





10 U.S. States with the Lowest Cost of Living;

10: Mississippi

9: Indiana

8: Kentucky

7: Nebraska

6: Idaho

5: Utah

4: Texas

3: Arkansas

2: Oklahoma

1: Tennessee

to be unbiased I took the first search results.. and I believe it backs up my views well..

but.. here is another list of "red states" that make the low cost of living list..

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100835110/page/2

and a picture for those who can't read to well..

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hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Correct me if I am wrong, but they are only looking at how a state voted in the last 4 Presidential Elections, so they are attributing any reasons for being a "poor" state to the President.

Should a President's policies have that much impact on individual wealth?
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
aren't some of "richest" states those that get paid off by Democrats, using taxpayer money collected from some of the "poorest" states.

Wouldn't you also have to take that into account?

which states have the highest number of Federal government employees? They having a higher average income, than private businesses, don't they?
 

Mike

Well-known member
Now that Buckwheat overwhelmingly "OWNS" the U.S. economy, poll after poll proves this, OT was pretty stupid in starting this post.

In comparison to where he was four years ago, Obama has little with which to counter a weak economy, including the excuse of Bush. Today, Obama owns the economy, and he is increasingly and rightfully worried it may come to own his legacy.

WE TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Careful MIke<<<< oldtimer has already called you racist and a KKK leader in another site

Of course every one there laughs at his nonsense too!!!! he is just too dense to know it
 
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