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A family turns to Cindy

Disagreeable

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CJ said:
Disagreeable said:
That you and your ilk continue to attack a grieving mother says more about you than it does about Cindy Sheehan.
How about this ilk, Dis. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007122

And therein lies the difference between the Faster Horses, Cal, Katrina, Steve and me. I've wouldn't consider insulting a grieving mother who supports this war. Yet on this board there are posts insulting, questioning, making fun of Cindy Sheehan. I would never, ever, object to anyone putting their opinion on this board. But several people here started a move to have me banned because they don't agree with me. Some people, even those who don't agree with me spoke up, and the movement died. So if you choose to side with people who vilify a grieving mother because she has the courage of her convictions or would supress free speech, go right ahead.
 

ranchwife

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My 18 year old son, a high school senior set for graduation on may 22nd, took his oath and signed the papers to join the US Navy....he will ship out for basic training on the 22nd of June to Chicago....he is WELL AWARE of the risks he has taken by joining the military...the risk of going to Iraq or Afghanistan or any other area of conflict in the world---at any given time with little or no notice!!!! I am PROUD of the decision my son has made---he made this decision with a clear conscience, completely on his own and FOR HIS COUNTRY!!!!!!
Thank you, cowpuncher, for the examples of other families dealing with unimaginable grief----those families had NO WARNING and WERE NOT PREPARED to lose their children!!!! THAT is the true tragedy!! When one's child joins the military, certainly there must be a little knowledge in the back of their mind that says "gee, my child may end up going to war and they may not return home...." :(
 

Disagreeable

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ranchwife said:
My 18 year old son, a high school senior set for graduation on may 22nd, took his oath and signed the papers to join the US Navy....he will ship out for basic training on the 22nd of June to Chicago....he is WELL AWARE of the risks he has taken by joining the military...the risk of going to Iraq or Afghanistan or any other area of conflict in the world---at any given time with little or no notice!!!! I am PROUD of the decision my son has made---he made this decision with a clear conscience, completely on his own and FOR HIS COUNTRY!!!!!!
Thank you, cowpuncher, for the examples of other families dealing with unimaginable grief----those families had NO WARNING and WERE NOT PREPARED to lose their children!!!! THAT is the true tragedy!! When one's child joins the military, certainly there must be a little knowledge in the back of their mind that says "gee, my child may end up going to war and they may not return home...." :(

The NAVY? Why not the Marines or the Army?
 

Disagreeable

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ranchwife said:
My 18 year old son, a high school senior set for graduation on may 22nd, took his oath and signed the papers to join the US Navy....he will ship out for basic training on the 22nd of June to Chicago....he is WELL AWARE of the risks he has taken by joining the military...the risk of going to Iraq or Afghanistan or any other area of conflict in the world---at any given time with little or no notice!!!! I am PROUD of the decision my son has made---he made this decision with a clear conscience, completely on his own and FOR HIS COUNTRY!!!!!!
Thank you, cowpuncher, for the examples of other families dealing with unimaginable grief----those families had NO WARNING and WERE NOT PREPARED to lose their children!!!! THAT is the true tragedy!! When one's child joins the military, certainly there must be a little knowledge in the back of their mind that says "gee, my child may end up going to war and they may not return home...." :(

But they're a lot less likely to be killed if they join the Navy instead of the Marines, aren't they? Yes, the military is dangerous even in peaceful times, but those on this board who insult and try to demean Cindy Sheehan because they disagree with her are the lowest of the low. How would you feel if you lose a child and have people say the things about you that are being said about her?
 

ranchwife

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Disagreeable said:
ranchwife said:
My 18 year old son, a high school senior set for graduation on may 22nd, took his oath and signed the papers to join the US Navy....he will ship out for basic training on the 22nd of June to Chicago....he is WELL AWARE of the risks he has taken by joining the military...the risk of going to Iraq or Afghanistan or any other area of conflict in the world---at any given time with little or no notice!!!! I am PROUD of the decision my son has made---he made this decision with a clear conscience, completely on his own and FOR HIS COUNTRY!!!!!!
Thank you, cowpuncher, for the examples of other families dealing with unimaginable grief----those families had NO WARNING and WERE NOT PREPARED to lose their children!!!! THAT is the true tragedy!! When one's child joins the military, certainly there must be a little knowledge in the back of their mind that says "gee, my child may end up going to war and they may not return home...." :(
But they're a lot less likely to be killed if they join the Navy instead of the Marines, aren't they? Yes, the military is dangerous even in peaceful times, but those on this board who insult and try to demean Cindy Sheehan because they disagree with her are the lowest of the low. How would you feel if you lose a child and have people say the things about you that are being said about her?

FYI, dis----my son is going into large equipment repair and welding so, YES, there is a damned good chance that my son will see Iraq if this conflict is yet unresolved when the time comes!!!! And don't you EVER ASSUME that someone else on here does not know the pain of losing a child and being judged by others!!!! She brought this on HERSELF!!!! Yes, my heart aches at the loss she has suffered....noone should EVER feel the pain of burying a child....NOONE...but, i also think of all the other families of lost soldiers who also suffer and the fact that their suffering is being compounded daily by this woman and her media blitz!!!! :mad: :mad:
 
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ranchwife said:
My 18 year old son, a high school senior set for graduation on may 22nd, took his oath and signed the papers to join the US Navy....he will ship out for basic training on the 22nd of June to Chicago....he is WELL AWARE of the risks he has taken by joining the military...the risk of going to Iraq or Afghanistan or any other area of conflict in the world---at any given time with little or no notice!!!! I am PROUD of the decision my son has made---he made this decision with a clear conscience, completely on his own and FOR HIS COUNTRY!!!!!!
Thank you, cowpuncher, for the examples of other families dealing with unimaginable grief----those families had NO WARNING and WERE NOT PREPARED to lose their children!!!! THAT is the true tragedy!! When one's child joins the military, certainly there must be a little knowledge in the back of their mind that says "gee, my child may end up going to war and they may not return home...." :(

Good for your son- ranchwife- I'm proud of him too as an American...I'm still a believer in that the service makes a man out of a boy quicker than anything- and teachs independence, while building the ability to work with about anyone...And the services find that most ranch kids are leaps ahead with work ethic.....

My daughter looked closely at both the Army and Air Force this year, before she decided she wanted to go to college first- I think the decision was mostly made because she didn't want to split from her High School friends yet....Hard to turn down with the education and training benefits the military is offering- and the signup bonus's.....
 

Disagreeable

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tut, tut, Ranchwife, you seem to be a bit defensive here. Personally, I'm grateful for your son's decision to join the military. I do want to thank you for proving something that I've been saying on this board for a long time, that the Army's difficulty in meeting their recruiting goals is because parents, like you, don't want their children sent to Iraq. The Navy and Air Force have no problem meeting their goals because those are less dangerous services AT THIS TIME. You said:

FYI, dis----my son is going into large equipment repair and welding so, YES, there is a damned good chance that my son will see Iraq if this conflict is yet unresolved when the time comes!!!!

If your son winds up in Iraq, it won't be as a welder or mechanic. Donald Rumsfeld has contracted out all those jobs that he possibly can. There are plenty of soldiers carrying guns and driving armored (hopefully) HumVs down the roads in Iraq that were trained as mechanics, cooks, etc.

And don't you EVER ASSUME that someone else on here does not know the pain of losing a child and being judged by others!!!! She brought this on HERSELF!!!! Yes, my heart aches at the loss she has suffered....noone should EVER feel the pain of burying a child....NOONE...but, i also think of all the other families of lost soldiers who also suffer and the fact that their suffering is being compounded daily by this woman and her media blitz!!!!

You, yourself, say that no one knows Cindy Sheehan's pain in losing her child, yet you agree with those that insult and ridicule her. Those people who feel otherwise have a perfect right to feel otherwise and I would never, ever consider denying them the right to express their opinion. But in my opinion, they're the ones insulting the dead. That George W. Bush uses the death of Casey Sheehan (along with others) as excuse to send more young men and women to die is unacceptable to Cindy and it's unacceptable to me. I have a nephew that will likely go to Iraq next month. I'll give him all the support that I can, but that won't make me ignore the fact this war is based on lies and misrepresentations by this Administration.
 

CJ

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Disagreeable said:
And therein lies the difference between the Faster Horses, Cal, Katrina, Steve and me. I've wouldn't consider insulting a grieving mother who supports this war. there are posts insulting, questioning, making fun of Cindy Sheehan.
Sorry Dis, she put herself in that jackpot by her own actions and by her own choice of associates. When she chose to join the circus, what did you expect? I support her right to not support the war and to be vocal about it if she chooses, don't agree with it, but that's not really the point. I also support other peoples' right to disagree with her. Maybe some don't use words you like to hear, but if Mrs. Sheehan can speak her mind, so can they.
I would never, ever, object to anyone putting their opinion on this board. But several people here started a move to have me banned because they don't agree with me. Some people, even those who don't agree with me spoke up, and the movement died.
And that is wrong. I don't remember ever agreeing with anything I've read of yours, but you still have a right to your opinion. But this isn't about you.
So if you choose to side with people who vilify a grieving mother because she has the courage of her convictions or would supress free speech, go right ahead.
Wow- You got all that from 5 words and a link that did not insult Mrs. Sheehan? You try to put everyone into handy little brackets-for or against, Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative, etc. In all truth, I'm just an old fat cowboy, who reads& listens to all sides and thinks for himself. Actually, as I said above, it's her right to speak out if she chooses to. In a way I feel sorry for this lady and wonder what will become of her after Michael Moore and friends and moveon.org are done using her for their own agenda, cut off the money and leave her to deal with the rest of her life. Do you really think her hate will sustain her?
 

Steve

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And therein lies the difference between the Faster Horses, Cal, Katrina, Steve and me. I've wouldn't consider insulting a grieving mother who supports this war. Yet on this board there are posts insulting, questioning, making fun of Cindy Sheehan. I would never, ever, object to anyone putting their opinion on this board.

Maybe dis you could point out where I insulted, Questioned, or made fun of Mrs. Sheehan? (Please feel free to reprint my complete words).....

You have posted this lie before and I again am challenging you to prove you allegations, can't do it,,, I see so you will just ignore it like all the other "hard Questions" you can't face....?(like whats you defination of a wmd?)

and the next time I visit the VA can I pass out your address to the Vets from the Navy and AirForce so you can address (and back up) your comments in person....

A close friend of Mine, a Navy corpsman, served just over a year in Iraq, beside and with the Marines, (you might have caught his picture on CNN), (or with Fox news,), I could see by the clip, his concern was not for his safety, but for the other marine he was carrying out, but to hear him explain it he was just doing his duty.....

He like many forward deployed Navy and Airforce now serve seemlessly with other units as one intragated fighting force,,,something you don't understand because you never served.............
 

katrina

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>> About Cindy Sheehan
> >>
> >> What is most interesting to me is that the press gives this
> >> little bunch of people who are protesting with Cindy so much air time
> >> without discussing Cindy's background. This is a case of more press
> > bias. It has
> >> been pointed out on just a couple of media outlets that Cindy divorced
> > her
> >> first husband and left her son with him to be raised while she became a
> >> political activist for the Democratic Party. She had very little to do
> > with her son
> >> in his growing years. She remarried. The 1st husband remarried. The
> >> original father raised the son with his new wife. They miss their son
> > and mourn
> >> the loss of his life. They have stated that they are very proud of
> > their son
> >> and that they agree with the stance of America in Iraq and on terror.
> > They
> >> said that their son was eager to serve and to go fight the terrorists
> > in Iraq.
> >> He volunteered. How many news stations carried their interview? Not
> > many.
> >> So the son dies in Iraq and then Cindy shows up to make a stink. She
> > gets an
> >> audience with Bush. That was not enough. She goes to Crawford and
> > demands
> >> another audience. How many news stations carry the ongoing saga of
> > Cindy?
> >> Practically all of them. Cindy didn't care about her son. She let
> > another
> >> woman raise him. Cindy doesn't care about the other soldiers in Iraq.
> > Cindy
> >> cares about her liberal, feminist agenda and about using the death of
> > her son
> >> to lobby against Republicans and Bush. And the press is helping her.
> > Why?
> >> Then 2 days ago, Cindy's 2nd husband filed for a divorce from Cindy.
> > Cindy
> >> sounds like a feminist opportunist who did not have the sense of
> >> responsibility to even raise her own son. It looks like her 2nd
> > husband is fed up with
> >> Cindy. We middle Americans should be fed up with Cindy also. We
> > should be
> >> fed up with the press. They manipulate us into their "group think"
> > and into
> >> the responses that they want on their polls.
> >
> > PASS THIS ON IF YOU AGREE BECAUSE OUR NEWS MEDIA WILL NOT
> > TELL YOU THE FACTS ABOUT THIS WOMAN
 
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I'm surprised she found 2 guys that could put up with her long enough to get married- she'll probably be "marrying" Ellen Degenerates next- on the capitol steps to promote her next cause......
 

ranchwife

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Katrina----thanks bunches for posting that little bit of unknown info on ms sheehan!!! Verrrrrrrry interesting....how pathetic for this woman to use the loss of a vibrant young man to further her own "status" :x
 

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