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A MUST SEE video Pass it on to EVERYONE

Tam

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http://www.opsecteam.org/index.html


Please watch it and pass it on as the US military needs your help to protect themselves from a SELF SERVING PRESIDENT.
 

Tam

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Did you ever think that the US military would put out a video like this about their SITTING COMMANDER AND CHIEF. :???:
 

Steve

Well-known member
SEAL Team 6, unit that killed Osama bin Laden, died in helicopter crash:

The Associated Press reported that the majority of the 31 American troops killed Saturday when the Taliban shot down a military helicopter over Afghanistan were members of SEAL Team 6, the elite team that killed Osama bin Laden in May.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai delivered news of the 38 total fatalities, the highest single-day U.S. death toll in the decade of U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan.

The AP cited only “AP sources” in reporting that the dead troops were part of SEAL Team 6. NATO acknowledged that the crash had happened, but did not give a reason why, or release names yet. NATO has also not released their own fatality count.

coincidence? who knows..

but everyone knows the doctor was hung out to dry..




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Tam

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What are the odds that a foreign ally is going to work with the US on gathering Intellegences or work with them to design a computer program to send a virus into a enemies computer system to stop their terrorist acts, after the info the Obama's White House leaked about Israel. This President craves publicity so much that he is willing to put others in danger to feed his ego. I can not blame the Military to step up and do something about him and this White House. And for one of Obama's talking heads to call them Gutless is just totally shameful. :x
 

Steve

Well-known member
Tam said:
What are the odds that a foreign ally is going to work with the US on gathering Intellegences or work with them

about zero.. or less..

I would say after Obama sold out that doctor anyone now approached by our intelligence forces will just work against US..
 

Tam

Well-known member
I think Obama when he said his policies were working did do what he set out to do. I believe that he set out to bankrupt the US and to put as many hurdles as he could up for the Military.

He stops a proven method of interrogation and threatens to prosecute those that carried it out under Bush. He brags about all his drone attacks that he alone picks the targets from HIS KILL LIST. The problem with the drones is he is killing anyone that might have intell that could be useful to future military missions. Then his White House leaks the top secret info that not only puts the military at risk and gets some of the killed, but stops foreign agents from ever trusting the US again.

He has enbolden US enemies and trys to tell everyone he is WORKING FOR THE US. This video proves what the military complex think of his job and it is shameful if not TREASON what he is doing. :mad:
 

flounder

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High treason is criminal disloyalty to one's government. Participating in a war against one's native country, attempting to overthrow its government, spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state are perhaps the best known examples of high treason. High treason requires that the alleged traitor have obligations of loyalty in the state he or she betrayed, such as citizenship, although presence in the state at the time is sufficient. Foreign spies, assassins, and saboteurs, though not suffering the dishonor associated with conviction for high treason, may still be tried and punished judicially for acts of espionage, assassination, or sabotage, though in contemporary times, foreign spies and saboteurs are usually repatriated following capture. High treason is considered a very serious crime.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason






while the republicans are pulling the swit boat type attacks again, and to date, they have not been of a high treason nature, ...to date. i only ponder how long it will be before they try such an event ?



for any soldier, especially a special forces soldier, to come out publically against his or her President, especially during a time of war, is wrong, and should be dealt with as such, right or left.



remember the Dixie Chicks !


remember the swift boaters !


remember the far right, so far out of touch, they WOULD throw your mama, your grandma, or anyone, off a cliff, to save their tax cuts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U



tax the rich. hit them hard. make the rich finally start paying their fare share, and please include their pensions, stock options, annual incentive, etc., because taxes on one million salary is one thing, but taxes on annual incentive, stock options, and other perks, well, that's another story. tax it all the same. this is the top paid exec. out of 100 examples in Houston area alone recently ;




2012 see top 100 in Houston alone. ...



base salary $1,400,000.


Annual incentive $21,821,400.


total equity $6,414,055.


all other comp $276,207.


change in pension $1,617,757.


Total direct compensation $31,529,419.


see more here, skroll down ;




http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/07/30/pay-swells-for-top-bosses/





SHOW US YOUR TAX RECORDS MITT, ALL OF THEM !




OBAMA 2012 !




:tiphat: :wave:
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Tam said:
I think Obama when he said his policies were working did do what he set out to do. I believe that he set out to bankrupt the US and to put as many hurdles as he could up for the Military.

He stops a proven method of interrogation and threatens to prosecute those that carried it out under Bush. He brags about all his drone attacks that he alone picks the targets from HIS KILL LIST. The problem with the drones is he is killing anyone that might have intell that could be useful to future military missions. Then his White House leaks the top secret info that not only puts the military at risk and gets some of the killed, but stops foreign agents from ever trusting the US again.

He has enbolden US enemies and trys to tell everyone he is WORKING FOR THE US. This video proves what the military complex think of his job and it is shameful if not TREASON what he is doing. :mad:
 

loomixguy

Well-known member
flounder said:
High treason is criminal disloyalty to one's government. Participating in a war against one's native country, attempting to overthrow its government, spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state are perhaps the best known examples of high treason. High treason requires that the alleged traitor have obligations of loyalty in the state he or she betrayed, such as citizenship, although presence in the state at the time is sufficient. Foreign spies, assassins, and saboteurs, though not suffering the dishonor associated with conviction for high treason, may still be tried and punished judicially for acts of espionage, assassination, or sabotage, though in contemporary times, foreign spies and saboteurs are usually repatriated following capture. High treason is considered a very serious crime.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason






while the republicans are pulling the swit boat type attacks again, and to date, they have not been of a high treason nature, ...to date. i only ponder how long it will be before they try such an event ?



for any soldier, especially a special forces soldier, to come out publically against his or her President, especially during a time of war, is wrong, and should be dealt with as such, right or left.



remember the Dixie Chicks !


remember the swift boaters !


remember the far right, so far out of touch, they WOULD throw your mama, your grandma, or anyone, off a cliff, to save their tax cuts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U



tax the rich. hit them hard. make the rich finally start paying their fare share, and please include their pensions, stock options, annual incentive, etc., because taxes on one million salary is one thing, but taxes on annual incentive, stock options, and other perks, well, that's another story. tax it all the same. this is the top paid exec. out of 100 examples in Houston area alone recently ;




2012 see top 100 in Houston alone. ...



base salary $1,400,000.


Annual incentive $21,821,400.


total equity $6,414,055.


all other comp $276,207.


change in pension $1,617,757.


Total direct compensation $31,529,419.


see more here, skroll down ;




http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/07/30/pay-swells-for-top-bosses/





SHOW US YOUR TAX RECORDS MITT, ALL OF THEM !




OBAMA 2012 !




:tiphat: :wave:

It's too bad that most members here don't speak "Idiot".

That way they could tell flounder off in a language he totally understands! :wink:
 

Lonecowboy

Well-known member
flounder said:
High treason is criminal disloyalty to one's government. Participating in a war against one's native country, attempting to overthrow its government, spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state are perhaps the best known examples of high treason. High treason requires that the alleged traitor have obligations of loyalty in the state he or she betrayed, such as citizenship, although presence in the state at the time is sufficient. Foreign spies, assassins, and saboteurs, though not suffering the dishonor associated with conviction for high treason, may still be tried and punished judicially for acts of espionage, assassination, or sabotage, though in contemporary times, foreign spies and saboteurs are usually repatriated following capture. High treason is considered a very serious crime.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason






while the republicans are pulling the swit boat type attacks again, and to date, they have not been of a high treason nature, ...to date. i only ponder how long it will be before they try such an event ?



for any soldier, especially a special forces soldier, to come out publically against his or her President, especially during a time of war, is wrong, and should be dealt with as such, right or left.



remember the Dixie Chicks !


remember the swift boaters !


remember the far right, so far out of touch, they WOULD throw your mama, your grandma, or anyone, off a cliff, to save their tax cuts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U



tax the rich. hit them hard. make the rich finally start paying their fare share, and please include their pensions, stock options, annual incentive, etc., because taxes on one million salary is one thing, but taxes on annual incentive, stock options, and other perks, well, that's another story. tax it all the same. this is the top paid exec. out of 100 examples in Houston area alone recently ;




2012 see top 100 in Houston alone. ...



base salary $1,400,000.


Annual incentive $21,821,400.


total equity $6,414,055.


all other comp $276,207.


change in pension $1,617,757.


Total direct compensation $31,529,419.


see more here, skroll down ;




http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/07/30/pay-swells-for-top-bosses/





SHOW US YOUR TAX RECORDS MITT, ALL OF THEM !




OBAMA 2012 !




:tiphat: :wave:

Hey Flounder- how about supplying firearms to foreign criminals that invade our country and murder US citizens with those same firearms- isn't that TREASON as well? :shock:
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Lonecowboy said:
flounder said:
High treason is criminal disloyalty to one's government. Participating in a war against one's native country, attempting to overthrow its government, spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state are perhaps the best known examples of high treason. High treason requires that the alleged traitor have obligations of loyalty in the state he or she betrayed, such as citizenship, although presence in the state at the time is sufficient. Foreign spies, assassins, and saboteurs, though not suffering the dishonor associated with conviction for high treason, may still be tried and punished judicially for acts of espionage, assassination, or sabotage, though in contemporary times, foreign spies and saboteurs are usually repatriated following capture. High treason is considered a very serious crime.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason






while the republicans are pulling the swit boat type attacks again, and to date, they have not been of a high treason nature, ...to date. i only ponder how long it will be before they try such an event ?



for any soldier, especially a special forces soldier, to come out publically against his or her President, especially during a time of war, is wrong, and should be dealt with as such, right or left.



remember the Dixie Chicks !


remember the swift boaters !


remember the far right, so far out of touch, they WOULD throw your mama, your grandma, or anyone, off a cliff, to save their tax cuts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U



tax the rich. hit them hard. make the rich finally start paying their fare share, and please include their pensions, stock options, annual incentive, etc., because taxes on one million salary is one thing, but taxes on annual incentive, stock options, and other perks, well, that's another story. tax it all the same. this is the top paid exec. out of 100 examples in Houston area alone recently ;




2012 see top 100 in Houston alone. ...



base salary $1,400,000.


Annual incentive $21,821,400.


total equity $6,414,055.


all other comp $276,207.


change in pension $1,617,757.


Total direct compensation $31,529,419.


see more here, skroll down ;




http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/07/30/pay-swells-for-top-bosses/





SHOW US YOUR TAX RECORDS MITT, ALL OF THEM !




OBAMA 2012 !




:tiphat: :wave:

Hey Flounder- how about supplying firearms to foreign criminals that invade our country and murder US citizens with those same firearms- isn't that TREASON as well? :shock:

Not if a liberal does it
 

Steve

Well-known member
how is voicing a concern about a national security issue treason?

seems to me the person who leaked the intelligence is the one who could lawfully be charged with treason..

for any soldier, especially a special forces soldier, to come out publically against his or her President, especially during a time of war, is wrong, and should be dealt with as such, right or left.

this comment is about the most disgusting comment I have heard liberals mutter.. for them to say a former soldier isn't allowed to participate in our countries politics.. is about enough to make my blood boil..

As retired and former service members,.. we have a voice, we have a right if not an obligation to be politically involved.. especially when we see a blatant violation of our national security.. to do any less would dishonor the service ..

all I can say is it possible for liberals to get any more stupid?

well flounder what have you done for your country that gives you the right to talk?
 

Tam

Well-known member
What is disgusting is those that are not risking their lives are claiming those that are risking their lives should not have the right to voice their opinions. If the military current or retired see their commandor leaking top secret info that is risking their missions and lives then by all mean they should be able to point it out during election time so the voters know just what the idiot is doing. If they can't then they should be able to leave the military the moment they believe their commandor is working against their best interest. No Way should they have to take orders from a guy that is helpping the enemy gain the upper hand on them.

The Dems are worried about their voters being disenfrangized because of Voter ID laws what is truly more disgusting is they are sueing over their supporters rights to vote while doing everything possible to limit the military's right to be heard and their ability to VOTE for the man that is to be commanding them and in Obama's case against the man that is RISKING THEIR LIVES BY LEAKING TOP SECRET INFORMATION FOR POLITICAL REASONS. :mad:
 

Mike

Well-known member
Steve said:
how is voicing a concern about a national security issue treason?

seems to me the person who leaked the intelligence is the one who could lawfully be charged with treason..

for any soldier, especially a special forces soldier, to come out publically against his or her President, especially during a time of war, is wrong, and should be dealt with as such, right or left.

this comment is about the most disgusting comment I have heard liberals mutter.. for them to say a former soldier isn't allowed to participate in our countries politics.. is about enough to make my blood boil..

As retired and former service members,.. we have a voice, we have a right if not an obligation to be politically involved.. especially when we see a blatant violation of our national security.. to do any less would dishonor the service ..

all I can say is it possible for liberals to get any more stupid?

well flounder what have you done for your country that gives you the right to talk?

About par for an ignorant high school dropout. :roll:
 

flounder

Well-known member
Group behind Obama attack ad has Republican Party ties


By Mark Hosenball and Alexander Cohen

WASHINGTON | Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:20am IST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A group of former U.S. spies and commandos that launched a media campaign this week criticizing President Barack Obama's national security record has extensive links to the Republican Party, public records indicate.

Records filed with federal and state authorities, and material posted on the Internet, show that key players in the campaign by the Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund include individuals with current or former affiliations with national and local Republican Party organizations. These include the group's treasurer, lawyer and TV producers.



snip...



http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/18/us-usa-campaign-leaks-idINBRE87G0Z320120818




Are Obama critics using 'Swift Boat' tactics?


A group with Republican and tea party ties says President Obama leaked information and took too much credit for the US Navy SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden. It reminds some of the 'Swift Boat' attack on Sen. John Kerry when he challenged former President Bush in 2004.


snip...


Many see it as an echo of the “Swift Boat” attacks questioning Sen. John Kerry’s Vietnam combat record during the Massachusetts Democrat’s challenge of former President George W. Bush in 2004.

The attack on Obama, scheduled as TV ads to be shown in half a dozen battleground states, comes from the “Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund,” which is registered as a “social welfare group” (not a political organization) and therefore is not required to make public its donors.



snip...


The special operations group attacking Obama may not be formally political, but it appears to have significant political ties.

The group's president, Scott Taylor, is a former Navy SEAL who in 2010 ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for a congressional seat in Virginia, Reuters reports. A spokesman for the group, Chad Kolton, served in the Bush administration as a spokesman for the Director of National Intelligence.

The New York Times reports that Mr. Smith, the former Navy SEAL in the video, has been a spokesman for the Tea Party Express and several Republican campaigns.

The Obama campaign was quick to respond.

"The Republicans are resorting to 'Swift Boat' tactics because when it comes to foreign policy and national security, Mitt Romney has offered nothing but reckless rhetoric," campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told Reuters, adding that Romney's "two major foreign policy speeches never even mentioned Al Qaeda once, and he hasn't outlined a plan for America's relations with a single region of the world."

Others have noted that neither Romney nor his running mate, US Rep. Paul Ryan, has foreign policy or national security experience. For that matter, neither did Obama when he ran for the presidency in 2008, although Vice President Joe Biden was an acknowledged expert in the field during his six terms in the US Senate.

In Senator Kerry’s case, his actions as commander of a 50-foot Swift Boat in the rivers of Vietnam frequently making enemy contact, which earned him a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts, were supported by many of the US Navy sailors who served with him. Vietnam War POW Sen. John McCain (R) of Arizona called the Swift Boat attacks on Kerry “dishonest and dishonorable.”


snip...



In Obama’s case involving bin Laden, it is generally accepted that he alone made the final decision to launch a dangerous mission – one that could have ended disastrously, as did former President Jimmy Carter’s failed attempt to rescue American hostages held in Iran. That operation in April 1980, which cost the lives of eight US servicemen, likely added to Carter’s failure to be reelected.

Obama’s most notable defender in the bin Laden episode may be the four-star naval officer who commands all US Special Forces, including Navy SEALs.

“The president and his national security team – I'm not a political guy, but I will tell you, as, as an interested observer in this – they were magnificent in how they handled the start to finish,” Adm. William McRaven, Commander, US Special Operations Command, told CNN last month. “At the end of the day, make no mistake about it, it was the president of the United States that shouldered the burden for this operation, that made the hard decisions….”




full text ;



http://news.yahoo.com/obama-critics-using-swift-boat-tactics-193923347.html?_esi=1
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Mike said:
Steve said:
how is voicing a concern about a national security issue treason?

seems to me the person who leaked the intelligence is the one who could lawfully be charged with treason..

for any soldier, especially a special forces soldier, to come out publically against his or her President, especially during a time of war, is wrong, and should be dealt with as such, right or left.

this comment is about the most disgusting comment I have heard liberals mutter.. for them to say a former soldier isn't allowed to participate in our countries politics.. is about enough to make my blood boil..

As retired and former service members,.. we have a voice, we have a right if not an obligation to be politically involved.. especially when we see a blatant violation of our national security.. to do any less would dishonor the service ..

all I can say is it possible for liberals to get any more stupid?

well flounder what have you done for your country that gives you the right to talk?

About par for an ignorant high school dropout. :roll:
 

Tam

Well-known member
flounder said:
High treason is criminal disloyalty to one's government......
High treason requires that the alleged traitor have obligations of loyalty in the state he or she betrayed, such as citizenship,....

High treason is considered a very serious crime.
So what you are saying Flounder is there is no HIGH TREASON when it comes to Obama because he has no obligations to be loyol to the country in which he is the President as he is not a citizen? :?
And I think we all know Treason is a serious crime that is why we don't understand why nothing is being done about those in the Obama White House that leaked TOP SECRET INFO RISKING US MILITARY MISSIONS AND LIVES are not being brought to JUSTICE. :mad:



for any soldier, especially a special forces soldier, to come out publically against his or her President, especially during a time of war, is wrong, and should be dealt with as such, right or left.

Anyone leaking Info from the White House that are risking the special forces lives NEED TO BE DEALT WITH but do you actually think Obama and Holder is going to hold any of them accountable? No as the leaks were done to BENEIFIT OBAMA. Just like the Black Panthers intimidating Voters was done to BENEIFIT OBAMA and we all know how that worked out for them and the JUSTICE SYSTEM IN THE US don't we? :wink: :roll:


tax the rich. hit them hard. make the rich finally start paying their fare share, and please include their pensions, stock options, annual incentive, etc., because taxes on one million salary is one thing, but taxes on annual incentive, stock options, and other perks, well, that's another story. tax it all the same. this is the top paid exec. out of 100 examples in Houston area alone recently ;

Yep tax the job creators and their invested money and see what that does to the job growth in the US. :roll: Not to mention the population when all the rich move out of the US to avoid the Dems Tax the rich to death plan. Just see who the Dems will be coming at next to correct funds to buy votes. :wink: :roll:


SHOW US YOUR TAX RECORDS MITT, ALL OF THEM !


OBAMA 2012 !
SHOW YOUR SEALED RECORDS OBAMA, ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!

ROMNEY 2012


:tiphat: :wave:
 

Tam

Well-known member
flounder said:
Group behind Obama attack ad has Republican Party ties

The group is a MILITARY GROUP that were put at risk from the leaks. Useless you can prove that the leaks were only risking Republicans you have nothing to say about who was in that group. Unless you know for sure Democrat military service man don't care about their lives being put at risk for OBAMA'S POLITICAL BENEIFIT . Another problem with this issue being tagged as a partisan election issue is that Diane Feinstein a DEMOCRAT was one of the first to voice a concern about the damage the leaks were doing to the US's ability to get foreign countries to work with the US after the US has proven Top Secret is kind of like Shove Ready in the US. ONLY WORDS ON OBAMA'S TELEPROMPTER. :mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zfr0GIxYdI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZwt14b82g&feature=endscreen&NR=1
 

flounder

Well-known member
Anti-Obama Navy SEALs Come Under Fire For 'Unprofessional, Shameful Action'


By KIMBERLY DOZIER 08/21/12 09:52 PM ET


WASHINGTON — A group of retired special operations and CIA officers who claim President Barack Obama revealed secret missions and turned the killing of Osama bin Laden into a campaign centerpiece are coming under criticism from some of their own.

Some special operations officers say the activist veterans are breaking a sacred military creed: respect for the commander in chief.

"This is an unprofessional, shameful action on the part of the operators that appear in the video, period," U.S. Army Special Forces Maj. Fernando Lujan wrote on his Facebook page, to a chorus of approval from colleagues.

A Green Beret who returned last year from Afghanistan, Lujan says that attaching the title of special operator with any political campaign is "in violation of everything we've been taught, and the opposite of what we should be doing, which is being quiet professionals." ....



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/anti-obama-navy-seals_n_1820404.html?utm_hp_ref=politics






flounder said:
High treason is criminal disloyalty to one's government. Participating in a war against one's native country, attempting to overthrow its government, spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state are perhaps the best known examples of high treason. High treason requires that the alleged traitor have obligations of loyalty in the state he or she betrayed, such as citizenship, although presence in the state at the time is sufficient. Foreign spies, assassins, and saboteurs, though not suffering the dishonor associated with conviction for high treason, may still be tried and punished judicially for acts of espionage, assassination, or sabotage, though in contemporary times, foreign spies and saboteurs are usually repatriated following capture. High treason is considered a very serious crime.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason






while the republicans are pulling the swit boat type attacks again, and to date, they have not been of a high treason nature, ...to date. i only ponder how long it will be before they try such an event ?



for any soldier, especially a special forces soldier, to come out publically against his or her President, especially during a time of war, is wrong, and should be dealt with as such, right or left.



remember the Dixie Chicks !


remember the swift boaters !


remember the far right, so far out of touch, they WOULD throw your mama, your grandma, or anyone, off a cliff, to save their tax cuts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U



tax the rich. hit them hard. make the rich finally start paying their fare share, and please include their pensions, stock options, annual incentive, etc., because taxes on one million salary is one thing, but taxes on annual incentive, stock options, and other perks, well, that's another story. tax it all the same. this is the top paid exec. out of 100 examples in Houston area alone recently ;




2012 see top 100 in Houston alone. ...



base salary $1,400,000.


Annual incentive $21,821,400.


total equity $6,414,055.


all other comp $276,207.


change in pension $1,617,757.


Total direct compensation $31,529,419.


see more here, skroll down ;




http://fuelfix.com/blog/2012/07/30/pay-swells-for-top-bosses/





SHOW US YOUR TAX RECORDS MITT, ALL OF THEM !




OBAMA 2012 !




:tiphat: :wave:
 
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