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Anonymous

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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.

Which famous peace advocate made that statement?
 

Goodpasture

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Sounds like a real conservative. Not like the pseudo conservatives that parade around here like screaming queens on gay liberation day.
 

Mike

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He also said something to the effect of:

We will have peace even if we have to fight for it. <paraphrasing>
 
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Anonymous

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Nope not Hitler- heres a couple more of his quotes...

When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it. After my experience, I have come to hate war. War settles nothing.

...there is no glory in battle worth the blood it costs.
 

Goodpasture

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What I find funny is that this is probably the last true conservative that held the Presidency, yet he embarked on one of the most ambitious public works projects in the history of man and catapulted the US into the strongest economy in history.
 
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Anonymous

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loomixguy said:
I think a couple more of his are...

Mr. Gorbachev...TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!

Trust, but verify.

Nope-- Goodpasture has it better than anyone...

Sounds like a real conservative. Not like the pseudo conservatives that parade around here like screaming queens on gay liberation day.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower
 

Goodpasture

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Too bad you relented, OT........it was fun watching them try to determine who the conservative was.........I had to LOL at the Reagan comment........like he had any real experience with the realities of war (although he made several movies portraying combat)......or was a conservative comparable to Ike or Goldwater.
 
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Anonymous

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I just wonder what Ike would think of GW's foreign expansionism and nationbuilding for oil, debilitation of our Armed Forces readiness to defend, and imploding of our domestic economy... :???:

You are right- Goodpasture- Ike was one of the last true statesmen, not just a politician....He not only ran on a platform of ending a war (Korean), and did- but built the interstate highway system (could see its strategic/economic benefits), expanded Social Security, created the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare, and backed the integration of public schools... And like the true conservative he was- while he believed in a strong military- he refused to go into Vietnam when the French wanted help with their nationbuilding/expansionism project that had gone bad....He also warned of the powers of what eventually became the neocons- the political influence of the military-industrial complex that profiteer from warmongering and were anti to his and the nations peaceful goals.....

Heres a quote from another great leader of that day- who would be chastised royally by the, as you called them "pseudo conservatives" on this site- because he actually came out against the Vietnam War- not so much on the principle- but because he could see these type wars are overly micromanaged by the politicians and pentagon bureaucrats....


Wars can be prevented just as surely as they can be provoked, and we who fail to prevent them must share in the guilt for the dead.
General of the Armies Omar S. Bradley
 
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