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ABC News: Strong Sense Someone in White House winked at IRS

Whitewing

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And I think that's where this is headed. If it's proven, I believe it'd be an impeachable offense.

ABC News political analyst Trey Hardin:

"I will tell you this on the IRS front: I have worked in this town for over 20 years. I have worked in the White House; I’ve worked on Capitol Hill. I can say with a very strong sense of certainty that there are people very close to this president that not only knew what the IRS was doing, but authorized it. It simply just does not happen that agency level like that – an initiative like that - happens without political advisers, likely in the West Wing, certainly connected to the president’s ongoing campaign organization, that didn’t know about it."


http://nation.foxnews.com/irs/2013/05/15/abc-news-strong-sense-someone-wh-authorized-irs-targeting-conservatives
 

Whitewing

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Mark my words, this IRS scandal has some very long legs.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/14/Obama-campaign-co-chair-attacked-Romney-conservative-group-in-2012-with-leaked-IRS-scandal-documents


One of President Barack Obama's re-election campaign co-chairmen used a leaked document from the IRS to attack GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney during the 2012 election, according to the National Organization for Marriage (NOM).

NOM, a pro-traditional marriage organization, claims the IRS leaked their 2008 confidential financial documents to the rival Human Rights Campaign. Those NOM documents were published on the Huffington Post on March 30, 2012. At that time, Joe Solmonese, a left-wing activist and Huffington Post contributor, was the president of the Human Rights Campaign (HRC). Solmonese was also a 2012 Obama campaign co-chairman.

Both the Huffington Post's Sam Stein and HRC described the leak as coming from a “whistleblower.” The Huffington Post used the document to write a story questioning former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney’s support for traditional marriage. The document showed Romney donated $10,000 to NOM. HRC went a step further than the Huffington Post in its criticism of Romney and accused him of using “racially divisive tactics” in a press release.

Solmonese, then still the HRC’s president, said in the release he felt Romney’s “funding of a hate-filled campaign designed to drive a wedge between Americans is beyond despicable.”

“Not only has Romney signed NOM’s radical marriage pledge, now we know he’s one of the donors that NOM has been so desperate to keep secret all these years,” Solmonese added.

Solmonese resigned his position at HRC the next day and took up a position as an Obama campaign co-chair. He had announced the then-pending resignation from HRC the previous autumn.

NOM announced Tuesday that it will sue the IRS for this alleged leak. Under immense political pressure, Attorney General Eric Holder launched a criminal investigation into the IRS's actions. Congress will conduct ts own investigation.

In early April 2012, NOM published documents which it said showed this leaked confidential information did not come from a “whistleblower” but “came directly from the Internal Revenue Service and was provided to NOM's political opponents, the Human Rights Campaign (HRC).”

NOM discovered that when HRC published its confidential financial documents, it failed to conceal the source of the documents. “After software removed the layers obscuring the document, it is shown that the document came from the Internal Revenue Service,” NOM asserted in its April 2012 release.

“The top of each page says, ‘THIS IS A COPY OF A LIVE RETURN FROM SMIPS. OFFICIAL USE ONLY,’" the statement continues. "On each page of the return is stamped a document ID of ‘100560209.’ Only the IRS would have the Form 990 with ‘Official Use’ information."


NOM president Brian Brown argued in that April 2012 release that the leak was made to benefit President Obama’s re-election campaign against Romney, his GOP challenger. “The American people are entitled to know how a confidential tax return containing private donor information filed exclusively with the Internal Revenue Service has been given to our political opponents whose leader also happens to be co-chairing President Obama's reelection committee,” Brown said.

“It is shocking that a political ally of President Obama's would come to possess and then publicly release a confidential tax return that came directly from the Internal Revenue Service," he declared. "We demand to know who is responsible for this criminal act and what the Administration is going to do to get to the bottom of it.”
 

Faster horses

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If I'm furious about this, :mad: think about how Mitt Romney must feel!!!
What a rotten hand he got. I'm beginning to wonder why anyone with
good character such as Romney, would even want to be part of the corruption.

We need to have a re-election!!! Doubt that is possible but with this all
coming to light, had Romney won the 2012 election it would have
changed history!!!!!! It sure wasn't a level playing field and the American
people LOST!!

Maybe Romney was just plain lucky he didn't have to be part of the
corruption in DC. It would be interesting to know what he thinks now.

FYI Whitewing, Dick Morris also thinks this IRS fiasco is an impeachable offense!
 

mrj

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I marvel at my own ability to be shocked and offended at nearly each newscast by the acts committed by the Obama administration/Campaign committee.

Each new 'low' they reach only makes me wonder why we are surprised when they DID make use of ACORN, which SHOULD be apolitical, during his early campaigns. Probably other government agencies and/or NGO's were used, as well, as virtual campaign entities.

mrj
 

hopalong

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To quote one of our posters (((yes he is watching))) \
BUT BUT BUY they all do it!!!
It is BUSH'S fault....
Borowitz says......
All is good in MT........
Eh oldtimer??????
 

Whitewing

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Faster horses said:
FYI Whitewing, Dick Morris also thinks this IRS fiasco is an impeachable offense!

Benghazi involves negligence, politics, and lying to the American people by the executive office and its state department. Disgraceful and tragic for those who lost their lives, but not much beyond that. Afterall, the election's over.

If it shakes out like I think it will, the IRS scandal involves criminal activity, serious criminal activity that could bring down the administration......ESPECIALLY if White House staffers knew about the operation, facilitated it, or directed it in any way.

Everyone in America (well, at least those who have at one time or another paid taxes), know what a thrill it is to find a letter in the mailbox from the IRS.
 

Tam

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Funny how Obama came out and made a big deal about firing the Head of the IRS BUT he was an interm that was out of a job with in weeks anyway. Obama has to toss somebody under the bus to appease the Media types so why not the guy that ALREADY HAS HIS WALKING PAPERS:roll:

And Miller came out and said he was looking forward to a smooth transition. If he is fired why is he worried about a SMOOTH TRANSITION why isn't he just gone? :?
 

cowman52

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I will credit this to Rush from yesterday, I was trying to be nice but----------
"no black or no female will loose their job over this--it just will not happen."
 

Steve

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Mike said:
Now the IRS is trying to blame it on some "Rogue" employees. Yea right.

I would bet those rogue employees are listening to Boehner's jail threat and picking out who above them set the policy..
 

Steve

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back in the good ol days...

ERASED IRS TAPE GIVES PROBER'S PAUSE

By BRIAN BLOMQUIST

WASHINGTON -- A suit to find out if the IRS is conducting politically motivated audits has taken a Watergate-like twist -- with the tax agency claiming a secretary taped over a key meeting.

The IRS claims a secretary recorded music over a tape of a 1997 meeting in which document shredding was allegedly discussed -- a move that evokes the mysterious 18-minute gap on one of Richard Nixon's Watergate tapes.

And the tax agency still refuses to give the tape to Landmark Legal Foundation, a conservative watchdog group that wants to know about politically motivated audits.

"We were told the tape was recorded over with music. When we asked if we could have the tape examined, the IRS filed a response to ask the court to stop us," said Mark Levin, president of the foundation, which claims document shredding was discussed at the meeting.

The IRS also told Landmark that 114 files, which were opened on tax-exempt groups after political figures suggested audits should be conducted on them, are "missing."

Levin filed a freedom-of-information suit to try to force the IRS to disclose all the audits of tax-exempt organizations that were triggered by requests from White House officials, members of Congress or other third parties from 1992 to 1997.

The Associated Press this week reported that aides to President Clinton and members of Congress from both parties have made hundreds of recommendations for audits to the IRS.

The recommendations included conservative groups such as the Heritage Foundation and Citizens Against Government Waste

the fact that a congressman or president can request an IRS audit is tyranny.... and the practice should be stopped...

but as we see in this.. little changes in how this scandal came about.. congress and the president requested audits of "enemies" except this time the IRS shredded the files containing the requests...

more on the old case... http://onlineathens.com/stories/111799/new_1117990020.shtml

isn't that ol gray haired white guy from Montana that OT knows and voted for,... one of those requesting audits of conservative groups?
 

Steve

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yep ol white gray haired guy OT voted for is now outraged...

They quickly sensed the political toxicity associated with Friday's admission by the IRS that they selectively targeted conservative organizations for special government scrutiny, and so Democrats didn't waste any time springing into action. Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus of Montana, for example, vowed congressional hearings and called the IRS actions "an outrageous abuse of power and a breach of the public's trust."

He was joined by a chorus of other Democrats including Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire who called it "completely unacceptable," Kay Hagan of North Carolina who called it "disturbing and troubling," and Mark Pryor of Arkansas who tweeted that he's "working to get to bottom of this so we can fire those responsible & ensure this never happens again."

Do those fools realize the answer is in the bottom of Pisslosi's swamp...

Fortunately, voters won't need to look very far.The willful ignorance and revisionist history demonstrated by Senate Democrats on this issue has been breathtaking, even by Washington standards.

Over the last three years, Democratic senators repeatedly and publicly pressured the IRS to engage in the very activities that they are only now condemning today. At the same time, Republicans repeatedly and publicly warned against this abuse of government power and pointed to a series of red flags that strongly suggested conservative political organizations were being targeted by the IRS. Those warnings were deliberately ignored by the Obama administration and Democratic leaders in Congress.

You read that correctly.

The same Democratic chairman of the Senate Finance Committee who this week is calling for hearings into IRS activities, specifically called on the IRS to engage in that very conduct back in 2010. And he wasn't the only one. Just last year, a group of seven Senate Democrats sent another letter to the IRS urging them to similarly investigate these outside political organizations.

to read more on the new scandal..
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/brian-walsh/2013/05/14/senate-democrats-pushed-for-irs-tea-party-snooping-before-criticizing-it

good thing OT left the room.... :p :lol:

cause this might be a bit hard to explain away.. :p :lol: :shock:
 

hopalong

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Nah!!!! he would just say BUT BUT BUT BUT they all do it, BUSH'S 8 yr coffee break. BLAH BLAH......There I said what he would say........ we all have to do our part to keep- his spirit alive in here. :wink: :wink: :wink:

It really is easy so much of everything he ever said was a repeat of something he had said before... :roll: :roll:

EH oldtimer,,,we know you are watching :wink: :wink:
 

Whitewing

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Steve said:
Mike said:
Now the IRS is trying to blame it on some "Rogue" employees. Yea right.

I would bet those rogue employees are listening to Boehner's jail threat and picking out who above them set the policy..

Indeed. I suspect this whole mess will eventually lead to criminal charges and it'll be interesting to see where the buck stops. One thing's for certain, The King is completely clueless about anything and everything that happens in his administration. Fine president that one.
 

Whitewing

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hopalong said:
Nah!!!! he would just say BUT BUT BUT BUT they all do it, BUSH'S 8 yr coffee break. BLAH BLAH......There I said what he would say........ we all have to do our part to keep- his spirit alive in here. :wink: :wink: :wink:

It really is easy so much of everything he ever said was a repeat of something he had said before... :roll: :roll:

EH oldtimer,,,we know you are watching :wink: :wink:

Hoppy, your problem is that you're not rural. :lol:
 

hopalong

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I live further out in the country than oldtimer does,,,,,,,,, he is about 3 miles from Glasgow on a paved road,,,,,,,,, I live 14 miles 9 of it on a dirt road that on occasion needs 4 wd to get to or from town :wink: Oldtimer would never make it out here,,,,, the closest bar is 22 miles and part of the road is patrolled by REAL cops :wink:
 
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