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Has anyone went to Acorn website and read about them. Looks like they are trying to help people that are not helped. Looks like a lot of what we hear about them is really being spun. This could really be what America is all about. Slowly everyone gets their vote and say in what goes on in America. History shows that at one time only property owners coud vote, at that time it would mean that I could vote but not my wife reason she could not own property plus women did not have the right to vote and express their opinion. Slowly these attitudes have changed. Now she can vote and also own property. Minoritys finally got the right to vote without being intimdated. Looks like some of the Americans cannot stand that these attitudes have changed and would like to go back in history and be like it was.
 

MsSage

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Minoritys finally got the right to vote without being intimdated. Looks like some of the Americans cannot stand that these attitudes have changed and would like to go back in history and be like it was.
They have had that right for quite a few years with NO intimdations....hmmm now explain to me why is it ok for a black man dressed in military like garb can block the door for a white person to go vote and that is not intimidation? How do you flip that around to whites not liking the blacks to vote? :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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Hurley, when ACORN was started they may have had good intentions. They have been highjacked.

Here's how they are acting now.

this is at a Health Care Town Hall. The "mob" uses the opportunity to educate the ACORN members on the Health Care bill.

http://www.breitbart.tv/charge-acorn-uses-police-to-suppress-free-speech-at-health-care-rally/
 

hypocritexposer

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reader (the Second) said:
hurleyjd said:
Has anyone went to Acorn website and read about them. Looks like they are trying to help people that are not helped. Looks like a lot of what we hear about them is really being spun. This could really be what America is all about. Slowly everyone gets their vote and say in what goes on in America. History shows that at one time only property owners coud vote, at that time it would mean that I could vote but not my wife reason she could not own property plus women did not have the right to vote and express their opinion. Slowly these attitudes have changed. Now she can vote and also own property. Minoritys finally got the right to vote without being intimdated. Looks like some of the Americans cannot stand that these attitudes have changed and would like to go back in history and be like it was.

Yes, hurley, I have never understood the vendetta against ACORN in PB. To me, they are a do-gooder organization. They may be zealous but their intent and the vast majority of their actions are for the purpose of supporting what the US stands for and the Constitution.

A few people who have taken over PB have an agenda to promote what has become mindless negative propaganda to topple the elected government. The attacks on ACORN are part and parcel of creating negative impressions through propaganda and lies.


take the opportunity to educate yourself about ACORN, Hurley. Don't listen us. Do the research, I' fairly confident what you will find.

What would Reader know about it, she's never paid attention

Reader:
I have never paid any attention to ACORN. Its importance is overrated by right wing conspiracy theorist such as hippo cut n paster here Wink

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=367865&highlight=acorn#367865

diversion, plain and simple.


I wonder if this is starting to ring true, with recent events. Who is diverting and misleading?

According to Stern, Acorn’s radical agenda sometimes shifts toward “undisguised authoritarian socialism.” Fully aware of its living-wage campaign’s tendency to drive businesses out of cities, Acorn hopes to force companies that want to move to obtain “exit visas.” “How much longer before Acorn calls for exit visas for wealthy or middle-class individuals before they can leave a city?” asks Stern, adding, “This is the road to serfdom indeed.”

In Your Face
Acorn’s tactics are famously “in your face.” Just think of Code Pink’s well-known operations (threatening to occupy congressional offices, interrupting the testimony of General David Petraeus) and you’ll get the idea. Acorn protesters have disrupted Federal Reserve hearings, but mostly deploy their aggressive tactics locally. Chicago is home to one of its strongest chapters, and Acorn has burst into a closed city council meeting there. Acorn protestors in Baltimore disrupted a bankers’ dinner and sent four busloads of profanity-screaming protestors against the mayor’s home, terrifying his wife and kids. Even a Baltimore city council member who generally supports Acorn said their intimidation tactics had crossed the line.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=
 

hypocritexposer

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why not listen to past members? They probably know more than Reader, someone who claims she hasn't paid much attention to ACORN.

http://www.acorn-8.net/

Why We’re Fighting

ACORN is not living up to its original mission; and that is to give meaningful voice and empower low and moderate income members of society. ACORN has been corrupted from its original purpose by senior management and an organizational structure that exploits the low and moderate income membership ACORN was founded to serve.

Voter fraud, voter registration fraud, unpaid taxes, unfair labor practices, etc, while tantalizing are not the problem, but merely symptoms of ACORN’s corrupt leadership. The real problem with ACORN is its governance – and the lack of transparency and accountability of that leadership.

Like you, we’re activists. We’re dedicated to helping people like ourselves — people of limited means — get a better shake. That’s why we joined ACORN in the first place. That’s why we’re fighting now to make it an open organization with clean books, honest leadership and a willingness to grow through scrutiny and criticism.
 

hypocritexposer

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I've done a lot of research on Obama and his cronies.

Unlike you, I verify through research, before I spout off on these type's of subjects.

ACORN is proving past claims and opinions of themselves correct.
 

Sandhusker

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hurleyjd said:
Has anyone went to Acorn website and read about them. Looks like they are trying to help people that are not helped. Looks like a lot of what we hear about them is really being spun. This could really be what America is all about. Slowly everyone gets their vote and say in what goes on in America. History shows that at one time only property owners coud vote, at that time it would mean that I could vote but not my wife reason she could not own property plus women did not have the right to vote and express their opinion. Slowly these attitudes have changed. Now she can vote and also own property. Minoritys finally got the right to vote without being intimdated. Looks like some of the Americans cannot stand that these attitudes have changed and would like to go back in history and be like it was.

Do you think that ACORN would put their voter fraud activities or how they whore poor people out for votes for liberal candidates on their website?
 

Ben H

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Some people aren't worth your time, move beyond them, that's why I barely acknowledge their existence. They have their head so far in the sand they will never see the truth. Move on and reach the people who can be reached. ACORN is just the acorn to grow into the mighty Oak. Look at who started it, Wade Rathke. Look into the Apollo Alliance.

Many people who are part of ACORN have good intentions and think they are doing the right thing, but the fact is that they are part of one of the biggest threats this country has faced, they are part of what is going to lead us to the second American Revolution.
 

Tam

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reader (the Second) said:
MsSage said:
their actions are for the purpose of supporting what the US stands for and the Constitution.
Shutting down free speach and the right to asseble is supporting the Constitution?

Like most of what you and Tam post and a lot of what hypo posts, this is an assertion, not a fact.

Show me that you understand what ACORN is and describe to me what they do and then show me that some significant percentage of their activities are unconstitutional. I dare you to learn something and bring facts instead of mindless propaganda and outlier examples of individual incidents.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/23/acorn-files-lawsuit-on-voter-registration/

The episode in Pennsylvania was one of several in battleground states that saw ACORN come under fire during last year's presidential election. At least 14 lawsuits have been filed against ACORN after the 2008 election, including a suit brought by former ACORN employees under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, a law more commonly associated with mobsters than community organizations.

Not that I believe you will read and understand this but former employees were filing charges that are commonly used for MOBSTERS Reader. This is a truly honorable organization you are supporting. They registered MICKEY MOUSE to vote in the 2008 election, want to guess who Mickey was going to be voting for Reader? :roll: :roll:
 
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Tam said:
reader (the Second) said:
MsSage said:
Shutting down free speach and the right to asseble is supporting the Constitution?

Like most of what you and Tam post and a lot of what hypo posts, this is an assertion, not a fact.

Show me that you understand what ACORN is and describe to me what they do and then show me that some significant percentage of their activities are unconstitutional. I dare you to learn something and bring facts instead of mindless propaganda and outlier examples of individual incidents.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/23/acorn-files-lawsuit-on-voter-registration/

The episode in Pennsylvania was one of several in battleground states that saw ACORN come under fire during last year's presidential election. At least 14 lawsuits have been filed against ACORN after the 2008 election, including a suit brought by former ACORN employees under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, a law more commonly associated with mobsters than community organizations.

Not that I believe you will read and understand this but former employees were filing charges that are commonly used for MOBSTERS Reader. This is a truly honorable organization you are supporting. They registered MICKEY MOUSE to vote in the 2008 election, want to guess who Mickey was going to be voting for Reader? :roll: :roll:

Tam just for the hell of it go into switchboard and search for Mickey Mouse in Florida. There you will find people that are actualy named Mickey Mouse as there are in Texas. Maybe someone did not get to vote because they thought his registeration card was not legitimate.
 

Tam

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reader (the Second) said:
This from 2008. I asked you to bring significant versus "outlier" evidence that ACORN activities were illegal or damaging.

Registering voters is not anti-American Tam.

I had been intending to post an answer to the ongoing -- and quickly escalating -- ACORN smears being issued of late by the GOP enemies of democracy out there, who have decided to intensify their unsubstantiated assaults on the community organization, given its effectiveness at registering millions of low-income voters across the country.

Today's incredible raid of an ACORN office in Las Vegas -- in hotly contested Nevada, as coincidence would have it -- has forced me to push this to the top of the heap right now. I've also posted ACORN's statement on today's nonsense in Vegas at the end of this article. Note to corporate media: Be sure not to read or report on that part of the story!

With prospects looking bleak for the Republicans this November, pulling out the old ACORN lie -- in hopes of scaring people away from the polls, causing chaos in November by challenging voters when they show up to vote, and putting in place baseless grounds to contest close results later on (when the GOP become "sore losers") -- is just about all they have left at this point.

Doubtless you've heard the smears by now: that ACORN is committing "voter fraud", on behalf of Obama, in hotly contested swing states. The media has been all too happy to pass that garbage on, without bothering to note that, in fact, the organization attempts to authenticate every registration form their workers submit and by law they must turn in every form to election officials -- even if they find a registration to be fraudulent when they call the phone number submitted on the form, or if the forms are otherwise suspect or incomplete.

They do so, and they flag all questionable registration forms as being suspect before turning them in to officials.

The thanks they receive for registering millions of new voters that nobody else has bothered with, and for notifying officials about questionable registration forms when they turn them in, is that the GOP's democracy-hating propagandists and election officials run to the media shouting, "ACORN is committing voter fraud! They've turned in hundreds and thousands of fraudulent registration forms!"

Of course they have. They have to by law. But what those GOP despots of democracy always forget to mention is that it was ACORN themselves who notified officials about the potentially fraudulent and/or incomplete forms in the first place!

For the quickest idea of how the GOP ACORN scam has run amok, dutifully forwarded by the often clueless corporate media, and then the rightwing wankers in the blogosphere who are only to happy to help enable those who are lying to them -- by putting truth, democracy and country second -- take a look at the following game of rightwing "blogosphere telephone" concerning a recent news conference called by a Lake County, Indiana GOP chair in order to sound the phony alarm about "fraud" committed by ACORN.

* 10/2/08: Northwest Indiana Times files a report headlined "County rejects large number of invalid voter registrations". The article reports on a news conference held by the Lake County, IN Republican Party chairman, John Curley, who claims "fraudulent applications are the workings of ACORN groups operating from Milwaukee and Chicago who are getting out the vote for Obama." Curley, notes "one registration form was filled out in the name and address of Jimmy John's, a Crown Point fast-food outlet," and other problem registration forms. He says that county election officials were able to "weed out obviously invalid applications," but neither the reporter, nor apparently Curley, bother to note that ACORN had already informed the officials about the questionable "Jimmy John's" registration when they turned it in, along with the other separately flagged registration forms.

* 10/5/08: Susan Duclos at DigitalJournal.com files an article, linking back to the Times story, headlined "More Dead, Underage And Fictitious Voter Registrations in Indiana, From ACORN", in which the uncurious blogger describes ACORN as "in the news in multiple cities across America lately for filing voter registrations for people that were dead, underage and in some cases duplicate filings." She charges "many people that should be able to legitimately vote, might not be able to because ACORN members 'delivered incomplete registrations'." She fails to note that even "incomplete registrations" must be turned in to officials -- by law.

* 10/6/08: Some yutz at Newsvine, then links back to Duclos with the headine "Obama and Acorn Register Dead Voters in Indiana", virtually charging Obama himself with personally voting thousands of times, using the names of dead people, or some such nonsense. Thankfully, that story has been "removed by the Newsvine community," who must have been smart enough to see it for the BS that it was, since I originally saw it yesterday. But not without the damage already being done, of course.


That's just one of the smallest examples of how this works. Add to it the unchecked megaphones of Rush, Drudge, Hannity, Fox and the democracy-haters are off and running, and have their strategy for chaos, purged voters, long lines at the polls, and post-election challenges all lined up for this November. Add the Bush Dept. of Justice to it, and friendly local and state cops, and you get today's PR bonanza in Las Vegas, where the "ACORN Raid", substantiated or not, will be second only to tonight's debate in the headlines tomorrow and for the rest of the month.

As mentioned, ACORN has just released a statement, noting a number of the points I've made above -- and which I have been making to anybody who brings up this garbage over the past year -- on the events that took place today in Las Vegas. Earlier today, they put out a response to the Indiana allegations. Those are also now posted below. Please help spread the word, since clearly, the corporate media won't bother to the real story.

For Immediate Release: October 7, 2008

ACORN Statement from Bertha Lewis, Interim Chief Organizer, on Incident in Las Vegas:

"Over the past year, ACORN has worked hard to help over 80,000 people in Clark County register to vote. As part of our nonpartisan voter registration program, we have review all the applications submitted by our canvassers. When we have identified suspicious applications, we have separated them out and flagged them for election officials. We have zero tolerance for fraudulent registrations. We immediately dismiss employees we suspect of submitting fraudulent registrations.

For the past 10 months, any time ACORN has identified a potentially fraudulent application, we turn that application into election officials separately and offer to provide election officials with the information they would need to pursue an investigation or prosecution of the individual.

Election officials routinely ignored this information and failed to act. In early July, ACORN asked to meet with election officials to express our concerns that they were not acting on information ACORN had presented to them. ACORN met with Clark County elections officials and a representative of the Secretary of State on July 17th. ACORN pleaded with them to take our concerns about fraudulent applications seriously. One week later, elections officials asked us to provide them with a second copy of what we had previously provided to them. ACORN responded by giving election officials copies of 46 "problem application packages," which involved 33 former canvassers.

On September 23, ACORN had received a subpoena dated September 19th requesting information on 15 employees, all of whom had been included in the packages we had previously submitted to election officials. ACORN provided our personnel records on these 15 employees on September 29.

Today's raid by the Secretary of State's Office is a stunt that serves no useful purpose other than discredit our work registering Nevadans and distracting us from the important work ahead of getting every eligible voter to the polls."


And in regard to Indiana, from an ACORN spokesperson earlier today...

The Republican Party is trying to use this attack to stop early voting from happening and disenfranchise tens of thousands of Lake County residents.

ACORN has submitted 1.3 million applications nationally and over 23,000 in Indiana.

ACORN engages in comprehensive quality control procedures, every card is called through three times.

ACORN flags and turns in three kinds of cards, those that it can verify, those that are incomplete, and those that it flags as problematic. It turns those in labeled in a special way and are very conservative in terms of what it flags as problematic. It has stacks of problematic cover sheets.

The Lake County Board of Elections refused to acknowledge the categories of cards when ACORN turned them in, or sign its paperwork. The Lake County Board knew about the questionable registrations today because ACORN flagged them for the board. For example, the Jimmy John's card is one that a caller had flagged and labeled as problematic. ACORN can get that caller to talk to the press.

ACORN did Voter Registration from in July and some parts of August. As it was doing quality control ACORN noticed a large number of problematic cards and because of this it eased doing registration until late September when it could clear its quality control backlog.

ACORN's recent cards from September and early October are not problematic at the same levels.

Please explain IN YOUR OWN WORDS the 14 lawsuits for voter registation FRAUD Reader and surprise surprise some are being filed by Democrat State Attorneys so don't even try put this off as a Republican axe to grind. And if you think ACORN didn't know then why are they filing lawsuits to change state laws to fit WHAT THEY WERE UP TO. :roll:
 

Tam

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Then Explain these IN YOUR OWN WORDS PLEASE

Recent Fraud

State Year Details
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.

CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.

2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.

CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.

FL 2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state's Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.
2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.

IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.

MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney's office for investigation.

2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.

MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.

2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.

2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.

2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.

MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.

NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.

2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.

NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.

2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”

2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.

NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.

2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.

OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.

2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.

2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.

PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.

2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.

2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.

2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.

TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.

2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.

VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.

In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia."

WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.

WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.

2004 The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.

Truly an honorable organization :wink: :roll:
 
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Tam said:
Then Explain these IN YOUR OWN WORDS PLEASE

Recent Fraud

State Year Details
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.

CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.

2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.

CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.

FL 2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state's Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.
2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.

IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.

MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney's office for investigation.

2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.

MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.

2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.

2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.

2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.

MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.

NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.

2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.

NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.

2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”

2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.

NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.

2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.

OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.

2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.

2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.

PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.

2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.

2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.

2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.

TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.

2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.

VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.

In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia."

WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.

WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.

2004 The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.

Truly an honorable organization :wink: :roll:

Tam- in the majority of those cases those were contractors or employees that were not only turning in fraudulent registrations--but were also defrauding ACORN by collecting payment for known fraudulent registrations...

And I don't think ACORN or Dems have a monopoly on fraud-- as I seem to remember just last year where a Republican National Finance Chairman just got thru being charged for defrauding the Republican Party of several hundred thousand dollars of campaign contributions - and now Steele is being investigated for fraud....

Steele’s Campaign Spending Questioned
Agents Contact Sister After Ex-Aide’s Claims

By Henri E. Cauvin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 7, 2009;

Michael S. Steele, the newly elected chairman of the Republican National Committee, arranged for his 2006 Senate campaign to pay a defunct company run by his sister for services that were never performed, his finance chairman from that campaign has told federal prosecutors.

Federal agents in recent days contacted Steele’s sister, a spokesman for Steele said yesterday.

The claim about the payment, one of several allegations by Alan B. Fabian, is outlined in a confidential court document. Fabian offered the information last March as he was seeking leniency for himself during plea negotiations on unrelated fraud charges. It is unclear how extensively his claims have been pursued. Prosecutors gave him no credit for cooperation when he was sentenced in October.

Does that mean all REPUBLICANS are CROOKS :???:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam- in the majority of those cases those were contractors or employees that were not only turning in fraudulent registrations--but were also defrauding ACORN by collecting payment for known fraudulent registrations...

And I don't think ACORN or Dems have a monopoly on fraud-- as I seem to remember just last year where a Republican National Finance Chairman just got thru being charged for defrauding the Republican Party of several hundred thousand dollars of campaign contributions - and now Steele is being investigated for fraud....

Steele’s Campaign Spending Questioned
Agents Contact Sister After Ex-Aide’s Claims

By Henri E. Cauvin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 7, 2009;

Michael S. Steele, the newly elected chairman of the Republican National Committee, arranged for his 2006 Senate campaign to pay a defunct company run by his sister for services that were never performed, his finance chairman from that campaign has told federal prosecutors.

Federal agents in recent days contacted Steele’s sister, a spokesman for Steele said yesterday.

The claim about the payment, one of several allegations by Alan B. Fabian, is outlined in a confidential court document. Fabian offered the information last March as he was seeking leniency for himself during plea negotiations on unrelated fraud charges. It is unclear how extensively his claims have been pursued. Prosecutors gave him no credit for cooperation when he was sentenced in October.

Does that mean all REPUBLICANS are CROOKS :???:



OFGS Oldtimer you will excuse anything done on behalf of the Dems won't you? :roll: ACORN is the common thread in all these cases of fraud in 14 different states and you want us to believe they didn't have anything to do with it. :shock: :roll:

Then explain why they ACORN are filing a lawsuit to change state laws to protect WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN PA. . Which was a FELONY Oldtimer A FELONY if you are truly a ex lawman turned judge that should mean something to you. Let me guess if a card carrying Dem Union thug shows up in your court for beating up a conservative at a town hall meeting they get a GET OUT OF FREE CARD. Some lawman Oldtimer lUS laws are broken and you make EXCUSES. :roll:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
You guys are wasting your time with OT, he can not even recognize something so simple as ACORN is up to no good on the behalf of the Dem's. In the past few years he has been running as hard as he can to beat out fff as most biased on this site.

Either that or he is just being a Burno!
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam- in the majority of those cases those were contractors or employees that were not only turning in fraudulent registrations--but were also defrauding ACORN by collecting payment for known fraudulent registrations...

And I don't think ACORN or Dems have a monopoly on fraud-- as I seem to remember just last year where a Republican National Finance Chairman just got thru being charged for defrauding the Republican Party of several hundred thousand dollars of campaign contributions - and now Steele is being investigated for fraud....

Steele’s Campaign Spending Questioned
Agents Contact Sister After Ex-Aide’s Claims

By Henri E. Cauvin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 7, 2009;

Michael S. Steele, the newly elected chairman of the Republican National Committee, arranged for his 2006 Senate campaign to pay a defunct company run by his sister for services that were never performed, his finance chairman from that campaign has told federal prosecutors.

Federal agents in recent days contacted Steele’s sister, a spokesman for Steele said yesterday.

The claim about the payment, one of several allegations by Alan B. Fabian, is outlined in a confidential court document. Fabian offered the information last March as he was seeking leniency for himself during plea negotiations on unrelated fraud charges. It is unclear how extensively his claims have been pursued. Prosecutors gave him no credit for cooperation when he was sentenced in October.

Does that mean all REPUBLICANS are CROOKS :???:



OFGS Oldtimer you will excuse anything done on behalf of the Dems won't you? :roll: ACORN is the common thread in all these cases of fraud in 14 different states and you want us to believe they didn't have anything to do with it. :shock: :roll:

Then explain why they ACORN are filing a lawsuit to change state laws to protect WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN PA. . Which was a FELONY Oldtimer A FELONY if you are truly a ex lawman turned judge that should mean something to you. Let me guess if a card carrying Dem Union thug shows up in your court for beating up a conservative at a town hall meeting they get a GET OUT OF FREE CARD. Some lawman Oldtimer lUS laws are broken and you make EXCUSES. :roll:

Not an ACORN fan Tam-- actually know little about it because they don't operate out here much and never had anything to do with them--and not trying to find excuses for them----but to accuse a whole group because of some individual employees that were also defrauding ACORN is the same then whether it be ACORNERS or REPUBLICANS....

So Tam- by your way of analyzing groups and people-- you're saying the REPUBLICAN Party is crooked and evil-because some Republican employees committed fraud...

This would be the topper for the "family values- Holier than thou" party tho- if their new Chairman gets nailed for fraud on top of all the bed hopping, zipper dropping, toe tapping scandals of all the Govs and Congressmen :shock: :wink:
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
reader (the Second) said:
What is happening OT is a campaign of disinformation. Whoever is behind this either finds an instance that can be exaggerated to make the whole party and administration look bad or manufactures a lie and plants it on these nefarious Internet sites.

OT is right -- we could say that the entire GOP is criminal or lying or whoring because there are individual examples. And we could wage this kind of campaign that is a blatant smear campaign on every single person in the same party.

As I said about ACORN before, their purpose was to help those who had been disenfranchised gain a voice. They report frauds because it's their legal duty and then they are accused of being cheats.

So if an organization has employees that did wrong, is the entire organization evil? If so, find me a single organization that you can't accuse of being evil? The church? Hardly. The GOP? Hardly?

Grow up and recognize smear campaigns for what they are. And get your information from varied sources and learn what a reliable source is.

Frankly, you should take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt, regardless of the source, if it's on the Internet or in the media.

You want to explain why that voice is always directed to supporting liberals? When ACORN operatives register people to vote, are they informed on the issues so they can make an informed decision when they cast that vote?
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Sandhusker said:
reader (the Second) said:
What is happening OT is a campaign of disinformation. Whoever is behind this either finds an instance that can be exaggerated to make the whole party and administration look bad or manufactures a lie and plants it on these nefarious Internet sites.

OT is right -- we could say that the entire GOP is criminal or lying or whoring because there are individual examples. And we could wage this kind of campaign that is a blatant smear campaign on every single person in the same party.

As I said about ACORN before, their purpose was to help those who had been disenfranchised gain a voice. They report frauds because it's their legal duty and then they are accused of being cheats.

So if an organization has employees that did wrong, is the entire organization evil? If so, find me a single organization that you can't accuse of being evil? The church? Hardly. The GOP? Hardly?

Grow up and recognize smear campaigns for what they are. And get your information from varied sources and learn what a reliable source is.

Frankly, you should take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt, regardless of the source, if it's on the Internet or in the media.

You want to explain why that voice is always directed to supporting liberals? When ACORN operatives register people to vote, are they informed on the issues so they can make an informed decision when they cast that vote?

Does ACORN not register both Republicans and Democrats :???: ....Do they know what party a person is going to vote when they register them :???: In our state you don't have to choose any party affiliation..

Isn't it the been the goal from founding fathers days forward to get everyone involved in our government- and everyone the ability to vote :???: ...

Altho I know that lies sideways with some of the current Repub "base" thinking- that over the years has used literacy tests, property ownership, and other means of racial profiling to limit some folks voting ability- but those folks are becoming more and more the minority with each generation...
 
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