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Texan

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This is for CattleArmy and those that think like she does - that McCain is just too old to be President.

What would it take in the selection of a running mate to make you feel more comfortable about McCain's age? Would someone Romney's age work, or does it need to be a Jindal? Or is there anything that would make you change your mind about him being too old?

I just don't think his age would have been an issue if he wasn't running against someone as youthful and energetic as Obama is. If McCain were running against Hillary, would we still be talking about his age?
 
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Maybe he can reincarnate Bryant :wink: :lol:

“Actually, you know what’s interesting, here’s some interesting political trivia for you. The last time that the Democrats had their convention in Denver was when they nominated William Jennings Bryant in 1908. And coincidentally, you know who the Republican nominee was that year? John McCain. It’s amazing.” -Jay Leno

Yep his age would be a factor no matter who he was running against...
The comedians are having a hayday with it tho....

McCain, of course, also out there. In Denver, a 60 year-old woman was kicked out of a John McCain rally for heckling him. Yeah, afterwards McCain said ‘I’m just not popular with young women.’” -Conan O’Brien

“It seems a Republican party operative, a man named Grover Norquist, told the LA Times that Barack Obama was just John Kerry with a tan. That’s what he said, stupid thing, that’s what he said. Well using that logic, if Barack Obama is John Kerry with a tan, then John McCain is George Bush with an enlarged prostate.” -Jay Leno

“I thought this was nice, John McCain went to North Carolina last week to visit 89 year-old evangelical legend, the Reverend Billy Graham, and he was frail and confused and couldn’t visit for long. But Billy Graham looked great … very sharp.” -Jay Leno
 

CattleArmy

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Texan said:
This is for CattleArmy and those that think like she does - that McCain is just too old to be President.

What would it take in the selection of a running mate to make you feel more comfortable about McCain's age? Would someone Romney's age work, or does it need to be a Jindal? Or is there anything that would make you change your mind about him being too old?

I just don't think his age would have been an issue if he wasn't running against someone as youthful and energetic as Obama is. If McCain were running against Hillary, would we still be talking about his age?

To me it has nothing to do with who's running against him it's simply the fact he's in his seventies and to me that constitues an older man. If everyone was honest and took out the fact that everyone wants their candidate to win and thought about it most would realize bodies are starting to give out and most older people (not all) just aren't as together as they were in younger years. Illness is more frequent and such things as lack of sleep ability also happen. To me personally I don't care who he picks as a running mate simply he's to old. I'd like the next president to not make the white house a bengay zone. Just my opinion.

Tell yourself I'm not an Obama fan either before you backlash me about Obama I realize they both suck as future leaders of our country.
 

aplusmnt

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CA or FFF never replied to my question if a Woman that went through menopause would be disqualified? They seem to have the possibility of some of the same problems as an older man. Maybe even a few worse.

I would be willing to accept an age limit if they also excluded women who have that time of the month mood swings and then Menopause problems.

Maybe in the end we should not question what ifs and just look at the individual.
 

fff

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aplusmnt said:
CA or FFF never replied to my question if a Woman that went through menopause would be disqualified? They seem to have the possibility of some of the same problems as an older man. Maybe even a few worse.

I would be willing to accept an age limit if they also excluded women who have that time of the month mood swings and then Menopause problems.

Maybe in the end we should not question what ifs and just look at the individual.

ROTFLMAO! I hope you continue this line and Republican candidates, in general, pick it up. Women are one of the largest voting blocs and they'll love this attitude. :D

In the end we should look at the individual. John McCain is a bad tempered, not especially healthy, old man. There are men his age who don't look it or act it. McCain looks and acts every day of his age. I don't think age should be a disqualifer, but I do think John McCain is too old for the stressful, demanding job of President of the United States.
 

kolanuraven

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aplusmnt said:
CA or FFF never replied to my question if a Woman that went through menopause would be disqualified? They seem to have the possibility of some of the same problems as an older man. Maybe even a few worse.

I would be willing to accept an age limit if they also excluded women who have that time of the month mood swings and then Menopause problems.

Maybe in the end we should not question what ifs and just look at the individual.


When you come back in another life....I hope you hit it right about the age of a 14 yr old girl!!!!!!!!

You only type that cause you know your wife isn't gonna see it. :lol:


Back to the main question:


The " age" doesn't bother me as much as the

Little Man Syndrome,
War Hero Syndrome,
and his temper.....those 3 things bother me about McCain.
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
aplusmnt said:
CA or FFF never replied to my question if a Woman that went through menopause would be disqualified? They seem to have the possibility of some of the same problems as an older man. Maybe even a few worse.

I would be willing to accept an age limit if they also excluded women who have that time of the month mood swings and then Menopause problems.

Maybe in the end we should not question what ifs and just look at the individual.

ROTFLMAO! I hope you continue this line and Republican candidates, in general, pick it up. Women are one of the largest voting blocs and they'll love this attitude. :D

In the end we should look at the individual. John McCain is a bad tempered, not especially healthy, old man. There are men his age who don't look it or act it. McCain looks and acts every day of his age. I don't think age should be a disqualifer, but I do think John McCain is too old for the stressful, demanding job of President of the United States.

come on it is an issue of age, if age is bad because of the POSSIBLE problems that could arise.

Would you not also exclude woman because of Menopause because of the POSSIBLE problems that could arise.
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
CA or FFF never replied to my question if a Woman that went through menopause would be disqualified? They seem to have the possibility of some of the same problems as an older man. Maybe even a few worse.

I would be willing to accept an age limit if they also excluded women who have that time of the month mood swings and then Menopause problems.

Maybe in the end we should not question what ifs and just look at the individual.


When you come back in another life....I hope you hit it right about the age of a 14 yr old girl!!!!!!!!

You only type that cause you know your wife isn't gonna see it. :lol:

Yea I do not allow my wife to use the computer :lol:

I wrote it because Jigs has came up missing and was not here to represent the Male Chauvinist :lol:
 
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From this video it looks like days like this aren't helping McSame from aging much faster either... :lol: He definitely is having advisor problems...
Kind of hard to play the left, the middle, and the right at the same time...
:wink: :lol:
Maybe McCain would be better suited to take over Bob Doles role as "The Viagra Man".... :wink:


McCain’s spin control on birth control

Thursday, July 10, 2008
First, Carly Fiorina, a top advisor to the McCain campaign, told reporters this week that it was unfair that insurance companies cover Viagra but not birth control, suggesting that a McCain presidency would offer these women “a choice”.

Second, reporters and women’s organizations point out that Fiorina is misrepresenting McCain’s positions, since he voted against a proposal that would have required insurance companies to cover prescription contraception in the same way they cover Viagra.

A few days later, a reporter for the Los Angeles Times asks McCain himself to clarify his position on this issue. Here is video of that amazing and awkward exchange:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkQDbfF4RqA

Mainstream media pundits notwithstanding, McCain’s nervousness is not due to talking about Viagra, it is about trying to not offend conservatives who are against birth control while trying to court women voters at the same time. This is what happens when straight talk runs up against political reality.
 

fff

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aplusmnt said:
fff said:
aplusmnt said:
CA or FFF never replied to my question if a Woman that went through menopause would be disqualified? They seem to have the possibility of some of the same problems as an older man. Maybe even a few worse.

I would be willing to accept an age limit if they also excluded women who have that time of the month mood swings and then Menopause problems.

Maybe in the end we should not question what ifs and just look at the individual.

ROTFLMAO! I hope you continue this line and Republican candidates, in general, pick it up. Women are one of the largest voting blocs and they'll love this attitude. :D

In the end we should look at the individual. John McCain is a bad tempered, not especially healthy, old man. There are men his age who don't look it or act it. McCain looks and acts every day of his age. I don't think age should be a disqualifer, but I do think John McCain is too old for the stressful, demanding job of President of the United States.

come on it is an issue of age, if age is bad because of the POSSIBLE problems that could arise.

It's not because of the "POSSIBLE" problems that could arise, I just think he's physically not able to put in the hours, tolerate the wear and tear of the travel, the stress put on a president. But that's not why I won't vote for him. I won't vote for him because he's the second coming of George W. Bush. He's voted for Bush's programs something like 95% of the time. Of course, now that he's the Republican nominee, he doesn't bother to vote, but that's a problem for the people in AZ who elected him as their Senator. While he was waiting for Hillary and Obama to fight it out, he was taking most weekends off instead of solidifying his base. I think he needed the rest and as things heat up, we're going to see more of that famous temper.

Would you not also exclude woman because of Menopause because of the POSSIBLE problems that could arise.

Said with a totally straight face: You're exactly right. A menstruating woman should not be elected president. And we all know what about women who are post menopausal. Witches. So what you're saying is that a woman should not be elected president. I urge you to get out there and pitch this line to every Republican politican you know running for office. :lol:
 

aplusmnt

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Maybe he was going to vote against that bill. If he knew they had only 30 votes against it there was no need to show up to vote. This stuff happens all the time, they know how the votes will go before they ever vote.

You are trying to make something out of nothing. If you want to look at missed votes most congressmen would never qualify.

Remember Kerry's record of voting?

I wonder what Obama's missed voting record was? I know he had a history back home of voting present on key issues.
 

CattleArmy

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aplusmnt said:
CA or FFF never replied to my question if a Woman that went through menopause would be disqualified? They seem to have the possibility of some of the same problems as an older man. Maybe even a few worse.

I would be willing to accept an age limit if they also excluded women who have that time of the month mood swings and then Menopause problems.

Maybe in the end we should not question what ifs and just look at the individual.

So if we are not gonna let menopausal women we better not let men who can't get it up without viagra run either cause that has to make any man moody. Hurry quick someone run a search and see if McCain uses Viagra!

You comparing a woman's monthly visitor to age is just grasping at straws. Some women have their visitor with nothing even changing except a pad or tampoon.

I think we should look at the individual and 70 is to old to be president no matter if you are man, woman, black, white, orange, menstrating, menopausal, or suffer from errectile disfunctions.
 

fff

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aplusmnt said:
Maybe he was going to vote against that bill. If he knew they had only 30 votes against it there was no need to show up to vote. This stuff happens all the time, they know how the votes will go before they ever vote.

The bill was stalled before the July 4 recess at 59-39 (60 needed for cloture) and there wasn't much expectation that the vote yesterday would be different. Kennedy is a sick man. For him to get out of bed and make that trip is remarkable and was a surprise to most Senators. If he had not shown up, the bill would have died. After it was obvious he'd be the 60th vote, several Republicans flipped over and supported him. If McCain had been there and shown some leadership, he might have kept those votes from flipping. But, noooooo, he's out politiking. Obama may miss other votes, but he was there for seniors and the military yesterday. McCain wasn't.
 

aplusmnt

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Well a fast google shows Obama has a terrible voting record.

Missed almost 1/4 of all votes since he has been in office. Being a young senator you would think he had more new found zeal for his new job.


Obama missed vote to help veterans
Friday, July 4, 2008 3:01 AM


In a Campaign Brief in Sunday's Dispatch, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama complained about the care given our wounded war veterans.

According to The Wall Street Journal, when the 2008 Defense authorization bill was passed by a vote of 91-3, Obama was one of only six senators who didn't show up to vote. The bill would provide health care for wounded troops.

In TV ads that are being shown in Ohio, Obama said he has acted to improve the health care of our wounded veterans, but when he had an opportunity to vote to improve that care, he didn't show up.

Is this the change his gullible supporters are supposed to believe in?


http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/editorials/stories/2008/07/04/W._Brown_ART_07-04-08_A10_46AKU7F.html?sid=101
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
Obama may miss other votes, but he was there for seniors and the military yesterday. McCain wasn't.

Obama missed vote to help veterans
Friday, July 4, 2008 3:01 AM


In a Campaign Brief in Sunday's Dispatch, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama complained about the care given our wounded war veterans.

According to The Wall Street Journal, when the 2008 Defense authorization bill was passed by a vote of 91-3, Obama was one of only six senators who didn't show up to vote.The bill would provide health care for wounded troops.

In TV ads that are being shown in Ohio, Obama said he has acted to improve the health care of our wounded veterans, but when he had an opportunity to vote to improve that care, he didn't show up.

Is this the change his gullible supporters are supposed to believe in?


http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/editorials/stories/2008/07/04/W._Brown_ART_07-04-08_A10_46AKU7F.html?sid=101
 

aplusmnt

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CattleArmy said:
I think we should look at the individual and 70 is to old to be president

Guess you would be wrong on that wouldn't you?

Reagan was President 7 years while in his 70's finishing things out when he was 77. And it is pretty widely accepted that he was one of the greatest Presidents of our time! And he went on to live to be 93 years old.
 

CattleArmy

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If it's my opinion it isn't wrong. Opinions are based on what one individual thinks. I never said it was fact.

Did he start the job in his seventies or did he start the job before that? See the point I'm making is he's to old to start. Plus in my opinion someone that age should be thinking retirement not running a country.
 

CattleArmy

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aplusmnt said:
CattleArmy said:
I think we should look at the individual and 70 is to old to be president

And it is pretty widely accepted that he was one of the greatest Presidents of our time! And he went on to live to be 93 years old.
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How many of those years do you know he remembered? Or knew who and what things were?
 

fff

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aplusmnt said:
fff said:
Obama may miss other votes, but he was there for seniors and the military yesterday. McCain wasn't.

Obama missed vote to help veterans
Friday, July 4, 2008 3:01 AM


In a Campaign Brief in Sunday's Dispatch, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama complained about the care given our wounded war veterans.

According to The Wall Street Journal, when the 2008 Defense authorization bill was passed by a vote of 91-3, Obama was one of only six senators who didn't show up to vote.The bill would provide health care for wounded troops.

In TV ads that are being shown in Ohio, Obama said he has acted to improve the health care of our wounded veterans, but when he had an opportunity to vote to improve that care, he didn't show up.

Is this the change his gullible supporters are supposed to believe in?


http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/editorials/stories/2008/07/04/W._Brown_ART_07-04-08_A10_46AKU7F.html?sid=101

91-3? Get a life. :lol:
 

Larrry

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How many of those years do you know he remembered

Let's go with your theory for a minute. He was one of the most respected prezs of all time and he was forgetful but yet still be a better president than those that supposedly know what the heck is going on. Give me another Reagan.
 
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