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Agreeing with GW!

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Anonymous

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Kind of comical- one of the first times in years that I agree with GW Bush- and I get attacked and called every blasphemous name in the book by some...


President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, “whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003.
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“Well, first of all, I believe in an Almighty God, and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God. That’s what I believe. I believe that Islam is a great religion that preaches peace. And I believe people who murder the innocent to achieve political objectives aren’t religious people, whether they be a Christian who does that – we had a person blow up our – blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City who professed to be a Christian, but that’s not a Christian act to kill innocent people.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2007/10/43906/#LBsSwUocOWkJUeDH.99

But nothing anyone has said- has changed my belief that we have but One God-One Creator- that created the heavens and earth, the oceans, and man- and from that first man developed the Negroid, Europeoid, and Mongoloid races and all sub-races that followed- and that all religions sprang up in differing parts of the world within those different sub-races and cultures...
But even tho they developed with somewhat differing beliefs-and follow different manmade scriptures/writings it is my belief they all pray to the same God/Creator...

So you folks can argue all you want on which's the bestest or worstest religion or your multi God theory and who has the bestest and worstest God- but I have seen (and doubt any exists) no proof to alter my belief....
 

Mike

Well-known member
Truth be known you don't have a religious belief at all. It shows all over, under, & around your words. :roll: That's fine, but you don't have to lie about it. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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OT, as I mentioned before, and you have since corrected yourself, by adding "one creator. There can be one creator, one God, but that does not mean that the God of all the religions you have mentioned, are the same one.

Bush needed to be political, when he stated what he did, that does not mean he totally believed, as you do.

obama has stated many things about religion...do you actually believe he truly believes everything he has stated?

Weren't Bush' religious beliefs "extreme/radical", in your opinion? Magog, for example?

Did you not mention his "crusade", in the past? How can it be considered a "crusade", if he believes everyone follows the same God?
 

iwannabeacowboy

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OT, I have no doubt you will ignore anything that disagrees with your religion of progressivism- government is god; That you will continue to claim that the Bible is not the Word of God, after claiming you believe in a sort of faith that is based on it????? And then use a politician's quote to support your argument. :lol:

For you to admit that there is a difference in various religions (there is obvious differences, as has been proven by your inability to defend the differences in doctrine each is based on) then you would have to look at the different religions critically and not so slight of hand by trying to group them all together for the purpose of making a false argument against your created (make believe) positions. (Seems like you use a lot of techniques from Rules for Radicals- Are you a radical OT?) When you look at the religions critically, your arguments hold no water. Since you wish to have faith in the god of government, it would be blasphemous for you to accept that the Bible is correct and the Word of God and that Christianity is based wholeheartedly on this.

But for argument sake, let's say you are correct and I am wrong.

Why is a guy that died 2000 years ago and promoted being truthful at all times, loving your neighbor before yourself, loving God above all and peace so scary to progressives?

Because for progressives, allegiance is first to government. In Christianity it is to God. This is the rub for progressives since they don't have total control of all individuals. I believe I remember someone mentioning control..... Hmmmm..... surely not another attempt at false projection by the faith in government crowd? Seems like your cult is fairly radical OT.

Why do you want so much control over all citizens?

Why is it easier for you to side with a fascist religion that promotes violence than one that promotes peace?
 
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Anonymous

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iwannabi-- So do you then believe in more than 1 God ?

Who was the God Creator that made the Muslims? Who was the God Creator that made those folks that wrote the Quran? The Quran has a similar story to the book of Genesis- and believe Adam and Eve were the first on earth...
Who made the Muslims Adam and Eve ? Was the folks that made the Muslims Adam and Eve who's descendants later wrote the Quran created by a different God :???:

For that matter- who created all the Indian tribes- or the Orientals who evolved the Buddhist religion ? Someone was their Creator for these folks to later develop a religion...

And I believe in Jesus- promote being truthful at all times, loving your neighbor before yourself, and loving God above all and peace- the same as you wrote ...

And our current President says he does too...

There is one law that all major religions share, President Barack Obama contended on Thursday. That is, to love thy neighbors.

Religion too often is a source of division and animosity, he said to thousands of attendees, including several world leaders and hundreds of members of Congress, at the annual National Prayer Breakfast held in Washington, D.C. But the holy scriptures of the world’s major religions all teach the Golden Rule, he said.

"There is one law that binds all great religions together," Obama said, according to ABC News. "It is, of course, the Golden Rule - the call to love one another, to understand one another, to treat with dignity and respect those with whom we share a brief moment on this Earth."

"Instead of driving us apart, our varied beliefs can bring us together to feed the hungry and comfort the afflicted, to make peace where there is strife and rebuild what has broken, to lift up those who have fallen on hard times."

He acknowledged that people of different faiths can’t avoid having differences on some beliefs, on the text used, or teaching on the afterlife, but he stressed that "no matter what we choose to believe … there is no religion whose central tenet is hate."

And just as I agreed with GW- I agree with what Obama has said... I know some of that doesn't fit to what the radical right prefers to preach- but it is what I believe...
Now you will again try to say I am a cult follower since I agreed with one of the "evil Dem cult"- but I'm not... I think for myself- its just coincidence on this subject I agree with both a Repub and a Dem world leader... :wink:
 

Mike

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Wonder how many in town or at the local bar believe in "One God"? After all, that is the final say isn't it? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
Told you so...."one creator", is now his argument... :lol:

Pretty hard for him to now believe in evolution, I guess that is a bonus... :wink:

Little Joe-- I expect to be attacked- as its the pack mentality that makes small folks feel big...
BUT
The comedy is the speed these folks forget what their " Political Heros" preached and said :

President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, “whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003.
-------------------------
“Well, first of all, I believe in an Almighty God, and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God. That’s what I believe. I believe that Islam is a great religion that preaches peace. And I believe people who murder the innocent to achieve political objectives aren’t religious people, whether they be a Christian who does that – we had a person blow up our – blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City who professed to be a Christian, but that’s not a Christian act to kill innocent people.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2007/10/43906/#LBsSwUocOWkJUeDH.99

And I had this belief long before GW murmered a word about it-- and as time goes by- and with archaeolgical finds tying the old myths, bible stories, and pagan stories of cultures that never could have had contact with each other together, I believe it more... We have one God- our Creator- from which hundreds of religions and multiple prophets sprang...
To an extent Gandhi taught the same...

So Faster Horses-- as the theological scholar and religious "expert" you portray yourself to be, does this mean GW and I have to go to Hell together :???:

Be as bad as when Mike gets to the Pearly Gates and finds that Saint Peter is a black man... :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70286&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=24

That was my argument from day one-- until everyone wanted to spin it around to fit their argument...

Incidentally the Quran's version of Genesis works well into the evolution theory- with verses that suggest that each of God's "days" during the six days of creating everything could have been thousands of years long- which has long been an argument of those Christian theologians who support evolution..
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Told you so...."one creator", is now his argument... :lol:

Pretty hard for him to now believe in evolution, I guess that is a bonus... :wink:

Little Joe-- I expect to be attacked- as its the pack mentality that makes small folks feel big...
BUT
The comedy is the speed these folks forget what their " Political Heros" preached and said :

President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, “whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003.
-------------------------
“Well, first of all, I believe in an Almighty God, and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God. That’s what I believe. I believe that Islam is a great religion that preaches peace. And I believe people who murder the innocent to achieve political objectives aren’t religious people, whether they be a Christian who does that – we had a person blow up our – blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City who professed to be a Christian, but that’s not a Christian act to kill innocent people.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2007/10/43906/#LBsSwUocOWkJUeDH.99

And I had this belief long before GW murmered a word about it-- and as time goes by- and with archaeolgical finds tying the old myths, bible stories, and pagan stories of cultures that never could have had contact with each other together, I believe it more... We have one God- our Creator- from which hundreds of religions and multiple prophets sprang...
To an extent Gandhi taught the same...

So Faster Horses-- as the theological scholar and religious "expert" you portray yourself to be, does this mean GW and I have to go to Hell together :???:

Be as bad as when Mike gets to the Pearly Gates and finds that Saint Peter is a black man... :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70286&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=24

That was my argument from day one-- until everyone wanted to spin it around to fit their argument...

Incidentally the Quran's version of Genesis works well into the evolution theory- with verses that suggest that each of God's "days" during the six days of creating everything could have been thousands of years long- which has long been an argument of those Christian theologians who support evolution..

Sounds like you follow the Quran version, eh?
 

Martin Jr.

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As for Buddhists, they do not believe in a God, they only believe in the life and re-incarnation of people and their attaining perfection. Buddha was not a God.

So essentially, Buddhists worship themselves.
 
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Anonymous

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Martin Jr. said:
As for Buddhists, they do not believe in a God, they only believe in the life and re-incarnation of people and their attaining perfection. Buddha was not a God.

So nobody created the folks that wrote the Buddhist religion :???:
Evolution :???:
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Martin Jr. said:
As for Buddhists, they do not believe in a God, they only believe in the life and re-incarnation of people and their attaining perfection. Buddha was not a God.

So nobody created the folks that wrote the Buddhist religion :???:
Evolution :???:

Like I said...changing his argument now...
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Why do you need a different creator for every race? Seems rather racist to me OT.

So if you believe in Jesus, what part of the Bible do you believe is false. And do you believe in the great flood involving Noah?
 
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Anonymous

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iwannabeacowboy said:
Why do you need a different creator for every race? Seems rather racist to me OT.

Christians, Jews and Muslims come in all races... How is that racist?
 
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Anonymous

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Martin Jr. said:
There is only one Creator/God, so God created the Buddhists, but they just don't know it.

Thank you- and it is my belief that one Creator/God also created Jews, Muslims, Christians and the followers of Wakan Tanka... And these different folks developed their religions later- many around their beliefs in that God that created them...
 

iwannabeacowboy

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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
Martin Jr. said:
As for Buddhists, they do not believe in a God, they only believe in the life and re-incarnation of people and their attaining perfection. Buddha was not a God.

So nobody created the folks that wrote the Buddhist religion :???:
Evolution :???:

Like I said...changing his argument now...

:lol: Its not easy having faith in government.
 
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