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All for naught.................

kolanuraven

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Over 4, 000 dead.....................................................................

" they'll be throwing flowers at us in the streets"

" Iraq will pay back all it's debts to us "

" WMD's are in Iraq"



...and now it's all for naught.


Iraq had no terror groups in it's border UNTIL we came knocking to reek a revenge killing on Saddam Hussein and kicked the ant hill.


All those soldiers dead and thousands more wounded for life.


For those of you who were in your lounge chairs ,supporting this decision by Bush and Cheney at home ,while the invasion of Iraq rolled on.....I hope you NEVER have a peaceful night and that you hear the screams of the dead.
 

Mike

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When I saw those people in Iraq that voted and stuck their finger in ink to prove it, I was proud of what we accomplished in Iraq.............

Now that Buckwheat has totally screwed that up, not so much. :roll:

He could screw up a Soup Sandwich.......................

How many people did Saddam Hussein kill? Just ask the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/26/weekinreview/the-world-how-many-people-has-hussein-killed.html?src=pm&pagewanted=1
 

Whitewing

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Kola said:
Iraq had no terror groups in it's border UNTIL we came knocking to reek a revenge killing on Saddam Hussein and kicked the ant hill.

Hey kitten, Saddam was a one-man terror group in case you've forgotten.
I'd imagine these folks wouldn't agree with your statement.
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The attack killed between 3,200 and 5,000 people and injured 7,000 to 10,000 more, most of them civilians.[1][2] Thousands more died of complications, diseases, and birth defects in the years after the attack.[3] The incident, which has been officially defined as an act of genocide against the Kurdish people in Iraq,[4] was and still remains the largest chemical weapons attack directed against a civilian-populated area in history.

The Halabja attack has been recognized as a separate event from the Anfal Genocide that was also conducted against the Kurdish people by the Iraqi regime under Saddam Hussein.[6] The Iraqi High Criminal Court recognized the Halabja massacre as an act of genocide on March 1, 2010, a decision welcomed by the Kurdistan Regional Government. The attack was also condemned as a crime against humanity by the Parliament of Canada.


The five-hour attack began in the evening of March 16, 1988, following a series of indiscriminate conventional (rocket and napalm) attacks. Iraqi MiG and Mirage aircraft began dropping chemical bombs on Halabja's residential areas, far from the besieged Iraqi army base on the outskirts of the town. According to regional Kurdish rebel commanders, Iraqi aircraft, coordinated by helicopters, conducted up to 14 bombings in sorties of seven to eight planes each. Eyewitnesses told of clouds of white, black and then yellow smoke billowing upward and rising as a column about 150 feet (46 m) in the air.

Survivors said the gas at first smelled of sweet apples[9] and reported that people died in a number of ways, suggesting a combination of toxic chemicals. Some of the victims "just dropped dead" while others "died of laughing," while still others took a few minutes to die, first "burning and blistering" or coughing up green vomit.[10] Many were injured or perished in the panic that followed the attack, especially those who were blinded by the chemicals.[11] It is believed that Iraqi forces used multiple chemical agents during the attack, including sulfur mustard (mustard gas) and nerve agents.[3] Some sources have also pointed to the blood agent hydrogen cyanide. Most of the wounded taken to hospitals in the Iranian capital Tehran were suffering from mustard gas exposure.[1]

Some consider the event as separate from the Operation Anfal (the 1986–1989 campaign conducted by Saddam's regime's in order to terrorize the Kurdish rural population and end the peshmerga rebellions by brutal means), as the Iranian troops allied to the rebels were also involved in the Halabja events. Nevertheless, the victims of the tragedy are often included in accounting the deaths attributable to the Anfal campaign, which was characterised by the widespread and indiscriminate use of chemical weapons by Iraq. Prior to the Halabja incident there were at least 21 documented smaller-scale chemical attacks against Iraqi Kurds, none of which prompted any serious response from the international community.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack


Kola said:
For those of you who were in your lounge chairs ,supporting this decision by Bush and Cheney at home ,while the invasion of Iraq rolled on.....I hope you NEVER have a peaceful night and that you hear the screams of the dead.

Count in your numbers virtually every member of the 'opposition party' of the US (who also voted in favor of the invasion), virtually every leader of every western nation and ally, and the members of virtually every intelligence service around the world, all of whom believed Saddam was more dangerous by the day.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again here, under the circumstances that existed at the time, I'd be in favor the invasion yet again. The occupation was a total cluster fark, but the invasion and removal of Saddam was warranted.

And thank God that back then we at least had a president who respected the law and consulted Congress before taking action.

Que the fatman man: Bush lied, people died......but I can't provide any evidence. :roll:
 

Mike

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Kola & OT have so much hatred & hostility for Bush & Cheney someone may need to drop a dime on them and notify law enforcement. :roll:

You never know, their "Irrationable Exuberance" may get the best of them one day. They both carry guns you know......................
 
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kolanuraven said:
Over 4, 000 dead.....................................................................

" they'll be throwing flowers at us in the streets"

" Iraq will pay back all it's debts to us "

" WMD's are in Iraq"



...and now it's all for naught.


Iraq had no terror groups in it's border UNTIL we came knocking to reek a revenge killing on Saddam Hussein and kicked the ant hill.


All those soldiers dead and thousands more wounded for life.


For those of you who were in your lounge chairs ,supporting this decision by Bush and Cheney at home ,while the invasion of Iraq rolled on.....I hope you NEVER have a peaceful night and that you hear the screams of the dead.

Gary Johnson- 2012 Libertarian candidate for President:

I often speak of the unintended consequences of ill-advised wars and foreign interventions. Thanks to the ongoing upheaval in Iraq, sophisticated U.S. arms are now in the hands of Islamic militants and on the way to Syria, among other places.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/iraqi-army-left-weapons-hands-terrorists-today/story?id=24070848

As Obama just said a few days ago- its a lot easier starting a war than ending it....
And as I posted several years ago- many of the returning troops, including my son in law when he returned from his second tour, believed all they had done there/and had lost there would be for naught and that within a few years of withdrawl the whole country would be in civil war...

No matter how evil Saddam was- he kept Al Queada out because he wanted no one else to challenge his power.... Now Al Queada is taking up the leadership of what was formerly Saddam ruled Sunni's....
 

Mike

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No matter how evil Saddam was- he kept Al Queada out because he wanted no one else to challenge his power.... Now Al Queada is taking up the leadership of what was formerly Saddam ruled Sunni's....

So.................you're saying it was OK for Saddam to continue killing untold thousands of people and invading neighboring nations?

Are you as stupid as you seem?

:roll:
 
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Mike said:
No matter how evil Saddam was- he kept Al Queada out because he wanted no one else to challenge his power.... Now Al Queada is taking up the leadership of what was formerly Saddam ruled Sunni's....

So.................you're saying it was OK for Saddam to continue killing untold thousands of people and invading neighboring nations?

Are you as stupid as you seem?

:roll:

After the Gulf War Saddam couldn't hardly pee without permission from the US, let alone invade any new countries... But he maintained enough power to keep Al Queada and Iran at bay...
GW's nation building adventure of invading a sovereign nation screwed that all up...And now we have a weak Iraqi government and country that is just ripe for birthing more terrorists- that are still killing people that oppose them just like Saddam did....
 

kolanuraven

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Mike said:
No matter how evil Saddam was- he kept Al Queada out because he wanted no one else to challenge his power.... Now Al Queada is taking up the leadership of what was formerly Saddam ruled Sunni's....

So.................you're saying it was OK for Saddam to continue killing untold thousands of people and invading neighboring nations?

Are you as stupid as you seem?

:roll:



Hey Stupid.....no what is being said is that now instead of ONE MAN--Saddam being a bastard...now there are THOUSANDS!!!

We kicked the ant hill....and this is what we got!!
 

Brad S

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Couldn't hardly pee? He kicked investigators out of the country and violated the cease fire. You dumbastards will say anything: it's shocking how unfamiliar you are with truth


No terror groups? Just tell me where the first bombing of the towers was planned? You're not even smart enough to lie well
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
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As Obama just said a few days ago- its a lot easier starting a war than ending it....
And as I posted several years ago- many of the returning troops, including my son in law when he returned from his second tour, believed all they had done there/and had lost there would be for naught and that within a few years of withdrawl the whole country would be in civil war...

No matter how evil Saddam was- he kept Al Queada out because he wanted no one else to challenge his power.... Now Al Queada is taking up the leadership of what was formerly Saddam ruled Sunni's....
What obama forgot....it take two to stop a war. :wink:
 

TexasBred

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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
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As Obama just said a few days ago- its a lot easier starting a war than ending it....
And as I posted several years ago- many of the returning troops, including my son in law when he returned from his second tour, believed all they had done there/and had lost there would be for naught and that within a few years of withdrawl the whole country would be in civil war...

No matter how evil Saddam was- he kept Al Queada out because he wanted no one else to challenge his power.... Now Al Queada is taking up the leadership of what was formerly Saddam ruled Sunni's....
What obama forgot....it take two sides to end a war. :wink:
 

kolanuraven

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Brad S said:
Couldn't hardly pee? He kicked investigators out of the country and violated the cease fire. You dumbastards will say anything: it's shocking how unfamiliar you are with truth


No terror groups? Just tell me where the first bombing of the towers was planned? You're not even smart enough to lie well


The plans were laid for the bombing for the World Trade Center in GERMANY by 12 SAUDI ARABIANS.
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Mike said:
No matter how evil Saddam was- he kept Al Queada out because he wanted no one else to challenge his power.... Now Al Queada is taking up the leadership of what was formerly Saddam ruled Sunni's....

So.................you're saying it was OK for Saddam to continue killing untold thousands of people and invading neighboring nations?

Are you as stupid as you seem?

:roll:



Hey Stupid.....no what is being said is that now instead of ONE MAN--Saddam being a bastard...now there are THOUSANDS!!!

We kicked the ant hill....and this is what we got!!

You might want to throttle back on calling others stupid while insisting that the overthrow of Iraq somehow lead to the sudden creation of thousands of terrorists. Trust me, there were thousands of well-organized terrorists who wished to kill Americans long before we invaded Iraq, and they were quite successful at it. Here are just a few noteworthy examples.

Khobar Tower attack in Saudi Arabia 25 June 1996
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Nairobi Kenya American Embassy bombing 7 August 1998
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Dar es Salaam Tanzania American Embassy bombing 7 August 1998
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USS Cole bombing in Yemen 12 October 2000
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I won't even post pics of the enormously successful 9-11 attacks.

And speaking of kicking ant hills and dealing with the devil you know, were you equally outraged about the American involvement in the overthrow of this guy with no congressional approval and no imminent threat to America?
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If you weren't equally outraged, then your outrage about what happened in Iraq is obviously feigned and based on who was president at the time, nothing more.

I await your reasoned response.
 

backhoeboogie

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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
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As Obama just said a few days ago- its a lot easier starting a war than ending it....
And as I posted several years ago- many of the returning troops, including my son in law when he returned from his second tour, believed all they had done there/and had lost there would be for naught and that within a few years of withdrawl the whole country would be in civil war...

No matter how evil Saddam was- he kept Al Queada out because he wanted no one else to challenge his power.... Now Al Queada is taking up the leadership of what was formerly Saddam ruled Sunni's....
What obama forgot....it take two to stop a war. :wink:

Two who intend to honor their agreements. We are infadels. They have no intention of honoring anything they agree to with us. There never has been peace and there never will be.

Their beliefs prevent them from honoring anything they agree to.
 

loomixguy

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backhoeboogie said:
TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
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As Obama just said a few days ago- its a lot easier starting a war than ending it....
And as I posted several years ago- many of the returning troops, including my son in law when he returned from his second tour, believed all they had done there/and had lost there would be for naught and that within a few years of withdrawl the whole country would be in civil war...

No matter how evil Saddam was- he kept Al Queada out because he wanted no one else to challenge his power.... Now Al Queada is taking up the leadership of what was formerly Saddam ruled Sunni's....
What obama forgot....it take two to stop a war. :wink:

Two who intend to honor their agreements. We are infadels. They have no intention of honoring anything they agree to with us. There never has been peace and there never will be.

Their beliefs prevent them from honoring anything they agree to.

Yet OT worships the exact same God that they do. :roll:

Allahu Akbar!
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Brad S said:
Couldn't hardly pee? He kicked investigators out of the country and violated the cease fire. You dumbastards will say anything: it's shocking how unfamiliar you are with truth


No terror groups? Just tell me where the first bombing of the towers was planned? You're not even smart enough to lie well


The plans were laid for the bombing for the World Trade Center in GERMANY by 12 SAUDI ARABIANS.

Read what he wrote again Kola, slowly, very slowly.

No terror groups? Just tell me where the first bombing of the towers was planned?

Interestingly, Ramzi Yousef, who was responsible for the first trade center bombing entered the US using a forged Iraqi passport. :lol:
 

Whitewing

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And then there was this:

Yousef was assisted by Iraqi bomb maker Abdul Rahman Yasin, who helped assemble the complex 1,310-pound (590 kg) bomb, which was made of a urea nitrate main charge with aluminum, magnesium and ferric oxide particles surrounding the explosive.

:shock:

Ole Brad S sure is dumb, isn't he Kola. :lol:
 

Brad S

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I have seen the intel photos showing the training grounds in IRAQ where they were planning the first bombing of the towers - the bomb in the basement. This has nothing to do with your fraudulent assertion that I claim any smartness threshold. Your fraudulent assertion that I claim any smartness threshold is merely an ad homonym attack for which I dismiss the maker.
 
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