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America........What Have You Done??

Mike

Well-known member
UK Spectator
Saturday, 7th February 2009

President Obama has had, by general consent, a torrid First Fortnight. To put it another way, it has taken precisely two weeks for the illusion that brought him to power to be exposed for the nonsense that it so obviously was. The transformational candidate who was going to sweep away pork-barrel politics, lobbyists and corruption has been up to his neck in sleaze, as eviscerated here by Charles Krauthammer. Despite the fact that he came to power promising to ‘ban all earmarks’, his ‘stimulus’ bill represents billions of dollars of special-interest tax breaks, giveaways and protections -- which have nothing to do with kick-starting the economy and everything to do with favouring pet Democrat causes.

He has been appointing one tax dodger, lobbyist and wheeler-dealer after another. After appointing one official,Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who had unaccountably forgotten to pay his taxes, he then watched his designated Health Secretary Tom Daschle fall on his sword because he too had taken a tax holiday. Daschle was furthermore a prominent actor in the world of lobbying and influence-peddling. Leon Panetta, Obama’s nominee for Director of the CIA has also, according to the Wall Street Journal, consulted for prominent companies and sat on the board of a public affairs firm that lobbies Congress. The Weekly Standard reports that Secretary of Labour nominee Hilda Solis was not only involved with a private organization lobbying her fellow legislators on a bill that she helped sponsor, but she apparently kept her involvement secret and failed to reveal a clear conflict of interest.

In foreign policy, Obama has started by trashing his own country through grossly misrepresenting its history and grovelling to America’s enemies such as Iran, which has flicked him aside with undiluted contempt. He has gratuitously upset America’s ally India by suggesting that America should muscle in and resolve the Kashmir question.

His right hand doesn’t seem to know what his left hand is doing. He reportedly asked retired Marine General Anthony Zinni to be US ambassador to Iraq, but then abruptly withdrew the appointment without explanation after it had been confirmed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. And the precise role he is offering Dennis Ross – special envoy to Iran? Special adviser to Hillary? Special adviser to other special advisers? – remains mired in confusion.

I have argued before however that, given Obama’s radical roots in the neo-Marxist, nihilist politics of Saul Alinsky, it is the undermining of America’s fundamental values that is likely to be this President’s most strategically important goal. I have also suggested that, since this agenda is promoted through stealth politics which gull the credulous middle-classes while destroying the ground upon which they are standing, his second-tier appointments should be closely scrutinised.

And here’s a humdinger. Obama has picked a man called David Ogden to be deputy Attorney-General. Ogden has made his legal career from representing pornographers, trying to defeat child protection legislation and undermining family values. As FoxNews reported this week, he once represented a group of library directors arguing against the Children's Internet Protection Act, which ordered libraries and schools receiving funding for the Internet to restrict access to obscene sites. And on behalf of several media groups, he successfully argued against a child pornography law that required publishers to verify and document the age of their models, which would have ensured these models were at least 18.

The Family Research Council has more examples of his contribution to upholding American and western values. In one such case, he expressed the view that abortion was less damaging to a woman than having children:

In sum, it is grossly misleading to tell a woman that abortion imposes possible detrimental psychological effects when the risks are negligible in most cases, when the evidence shows that she is more likely to experience feelings of relief and happiness, and when child-birth and child-rearing or adoption may pose concomitant (if not greater) risks or adverse psychological effects ...

In another, co-authored brief, he argued that it was an unconstitutional burden on 14-year old girls seeking an abortion for their parents to be notified -- because there was no difference between adults and mid-teens in their ability to grasp all the implications of such a decision:

There is no question that the right to secure an abortion is fundamental. By any objective standard, therefore, the decision to abort is one that a reasonable person, including a reasonable adolescent, could make. [E]mpirical studies have found few differences between minors aged 14-18 and adults in their understanding of information and their ability to think of options and consequences when asked to consider treatment-related decisions. These unvarying and highly significant findings indicate that with respect to the capacity to understand and reason logically, there is no qualitative or quantitative difference between minors in mid-adolescence, i.e., about 14-15 years of age, and adults.

And how did the 44th President react to the growing public dismay over the mess he was making? He threw his toys out of the pram -- or perhaps that should read, he got into the pram. For he fled the scene of the disaster and sought the company of seven year-olds instead. As the Telegraph reported:

‘We were just tired of being in the White House,’ he told a group of excited seven-year-olds before discussing Batman and reading them a book.

Tired of being President – after two weeks!

Tax cheats, pork-barrel politics, ancillary child abuse, incompetence, chaos, treachery and infantilism. America – what have you done?!
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
Change we can all believe in...

Can we get rid of him yet? You liberals all got your feel-good moment where your absolved any traces of racism in your system by voting for a black man (well, a half black man). Can we elect a new guy now with consideration given to experience, accomplishments, his past, etc... this time?
 

Broke Cowboy

Well-known member
Mike

I spent 10 days in London with my wife - then I sent her home on a plane and I arrived back here in the desert - about 14 days ago.

The article you copied into this thread is quite indicative of the rapidly changing opinion of the U.S. of A. and your president in the U.K.

While it might not bother many folks - this is one the the strongest allies of the U.S. of A. - and by that alone - folks in your country should be starting to worry.

The doorman at the Union Jack Club and I chatted one evening for about 30 minutes. Yeah, I like to talk to the working stiffs - besides I was out of smokes and he had some.

He told me "It is becoming apparent that the emperor has no clothes."

Obama is not the messiah and in fact - despite my better judgement as I have stayed pretty much out of this - I will only say I hope he can keep you guys out of the ditch for the next four years.

I do not believe he can or will - simply because he is tied in too closely with those who would not be welcome at many dinner tables around the country side. Lots of unsavoury folks behind this man and now he has to pay them back.

Regards

BC
 

Mike

Well-known member
Broke Cowboy said:
Mike

I spent 10 days in London with my wife - then I sent her home on a plane and I arrived back here in the desert - about 14 days ago.

The article you copied into this thread is quite indicative of the rapidly changing opinion of the U.S. of A. and your president in the U.K.

While it might not bother many folks - this is one the the strongest allies of the U.S. of A. - and by that alone - folks in your country should be starting to worry.

The doorman at the Union Jack Club and I chatted one evening for about 30 minutes. Yeah, I like to talk to the working stiffs - besides I was out of smokes and he had some.

He told me "It is becoming apparent that the emperor has no clothes."

Obama is not the messiah and in fact - despite my better judgement as I have stayed pretty much out of this - I will only say I hope he can keep you guys out of the ditch for the next four years.

I do not believe he can or will - simply because he is tied in too closely with those who would not be welcome at many dinner tables around the country side. Lots of unsavoury folks behind this man and now he has to pay them back.

Regards

BC

For the life of me, I cannot fathom how the liberals can condone such ineptitude as has been glowing throughout the election, but especially the past two weeks.

I suppose some people do not want to admit to "buyers remorse"? :roll:

Surely they really haven't bought in to the media induced hatred of Bush and the slobbering love affair with Obama?

I hope they are saying these things out of a love for being argumentative, not because they really believe what they are saying. I can only hope.
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Mike said:
I suppose some people do not want to admit to "buyers remorse"? :roll:

They so strongly supported him and it would take a big man to admit they were wrong. I do not see many admitting it, liberals are not known for humility! In a few years it will be hard to find 30% who will admit they voted for Obama!
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
Mike said:
I suppose some people do not want to admit to "buyers remorse"? :roll:

They so strongly supported him and it would take a big man to admit they were wrong. I do not see many admitting it, liberals are not known for humility! In a few years it will be hard to find 30% who will admit they voted for Obama!

The man has been in office for less than three weeks and already his administration is an abject failure?

How much would you like to wager right now that Obama's approval ratings never reach 22% like your buddy Bush the Brushcutter?

I tell you what. The first time Obama's approval rating hits 35% in a Gallup poll (I'll spot you 13 points), I will never post on this forum again.

If after four years, his approval ratings has not gone below 35%, you promise to never post on this forum again?

Are you we on?
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
"The man has been in office for less than three weeks and already his administration is an abject failure? "

Considering the extent of the long-term damages his spending bill will do to this country, YES.
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
"The man has been in office for less than three weeks and already his administration is an abject failure? "

Considering the extent of the long-term damages his spending bill will do to this country, YES.

Well, I'm glad you have an economic crystal ball.

You must be a very wealthy man. If I knew what was going to happen with the economy, think of the investments I could make.

I would also like to extend the aplusmt wager deal to you or anybody else on the board.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
badaxemoo said:
Sandhusker said:
"The man has been in office for less than three weeks and already his administration is an abject failure? "

Considering the extent of the long-term damages his spending bill will do to this country, YES.

Well, I'm glad you have an economic crystal ball.

You must be a very wealthy man. If I knew what was going to happen with the economy, think of the investments I could make.

I would also like to extend the aplusmt wager deal to you or anybody else on the board.

How does one make money in a global depression?
 

burnt

Well-known member
badaxemoo said:
. . . . I tell you what. The first time Obama's approval rating hits 35% in a Gallup poll (I'll spot you 13 points), I will never post on this forum again.

If after four years, his approval ratings has not gone below 35%, you promise to never post on this forum again?

Are you we on?

well badaxemoo, as much as I disagree with some of your thinking at times, even so far as to get bent out of shape at times :) , you are one poster I would be sorry to see go, so I hope nobody takes you up on what looks to me like a pointless wager.
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
burnt said:
badaxemoo said:
. . . . I tell you what. The first time Obama's approval rating hits 35% in a Gallup poll (I'll spot you 13 points), I will never post on this forum again.

If after four years, his approval ratings has not gone below 35%, you promise to never post on this forum again?

Are you we on?

well badaxemoo, as much as I disagree with some of your thinking at times, even so far as to get bent out of shape at times :) , you are one poster I would be sorry to see go, so I hope nobody takes you up on what looks to me like a pointless wager.

The world would be a boring place if everyone agreed.

And the wager would be a win-win for me.

If I win, I am quite sure that the posters that took the bet wouldn't leave and I could hound them incessantly.

If I lose, I would spend some of the time I spend reading here clearing up my backlogged projects on the farm.
 

Steve

Well-known member
badaxemoo said:
aplusmnt said:
Mike said:
I suppose some people do not want to admit to "buyers remorse"? :roll:

They so strongly supported him and it would take a big man to admit they were wrong. I do not see many admitting it, liberals are not known for humility! In a few years it will be hard to find 30% who will admit they voted for Obama!

The man has been in office for less than three weeks and already his administration is an abject failure?

How much would you like to wager right now that Obama's approval ratings never reach 22% like your buddy Bush the Brushcutter?

I tell you what. The first time Obama's approval rating hits 35% in a Gallup poll (I'll spot you 13 points), I will never post on this forum again.

If after four years, his approval ratings has not gone below 35%, you promise to never post on this forum again?

Are you we on?

"Barack Obama might have been in office for less than a week, but the euphoria is beginning to wane.

The new President's approval ratings have fallen from a stratospheric 83 per cent to a more modest - although still impressive - 68 per cent"

"Daily Presidential Approval Index
Sunday, February 08, 2009


The partisan debate over an economic stimulus package has pushed President Barack Obama’s Job Approval Ratings down over the past week. While the President,... The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Approval Index for Sunday shows that 36% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing as President."

Overall, 59% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance so far while 39% disapprove. Today’s results mark the first time that Obama’s overall rating has fallen below 60% as either President-elect or President.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_approval_index

at that rate you should be able to get started on your backlogged chores soon... :roll: :wink:
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
Steve said:
badaxemoo said:
aplusmnt said:
They so strongly supported him and it would take a big man to admit they were wrong. I do not see many admitting it, liberals are not known for humility! In a few years it will be hard to find 30% who will admit they voted for Obama!

The man has been in office for less than three weeks and already his administration is an abject failure?

How much would you like to wager right now that Obama's approval ratings never reach 22% like your buddy Bush the Brushcutter?

I tell you what. The first time Obama's approval rating hits 35% in a Gallup poll (I'll spot you 13 points), I will never post on this forum again.

If after four years, his approval ratings has not gone below 35%, you promise to never post on this forum again?

Are you we on?

"Barack Obama might have been in office for less than a week, but the euphoria is beginning to wane.

The new President's approval ratings have fallen from a stratospheric 83 per cent to a more modest - although still impressive - 68 per cent"

"Daily Presidential Approval Index
Sunday, February 08, 2009


The partisan debate over an economic stimulus package has pushed President Barack Obama’s Job Approval Ratings down over the past week. While the President,... The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Approval Index for Sunday shows that 36% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing as President."

Overall, 59% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance so far while 39% disapprove. Today’s results mark the first time that Obama’s overall rating has fallen below 60% as either President-elect or President.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_approval_index

at that rate you should be able to get started on your backlogged chores soon... :roll: :wink:

If you follow polls, you know that the trip from 83 to 59 isn't very far, but the trip from 59 to 35 is a long, long way.

I'd be surprised if he falls under 50 anytime soon.
 

Larrry

Well-known member
What a childish contest you have proposed.

I firmly believe his numbers will go that low unless some people get some balls and stand up to his ideas. So if I did make this bet I would be hoping his numbers go down and that would include the US going down with his numbers. I do not want this country to go down that low. I will not make a bet that would be won if the US failed.

Go try doing something more productive with your time rather some chilish bet.
 

Steve

Well-known member
badaxemoo said:
Steve said:
badaxemoo said:
The man has been in office for less than three weeks and already his administration is an abject failure?

How much would you like to wager right now that Obama's approval ratings never reach 22% like your buddy Bush the Brushcutter?

I tell you what. The first time Obama's approval rating hits 35% in a Gallup poll (I'll spot you 13 points), I will never post on this forum again.

If after four years, his approval ratings has not gone below 35%, you promise to never post on this forum again?

Are you we on?

"Barack Obama might have been in office for less than a week, but the euphoria is beginning to wane.

The new President's approval ratings have fallen from a stratospheric 83 per cent to a more modest - although still impressive - 68 per cent"

"Daily Presidential Approval Index
Sunday, February 08, 2009


The partisan debate over an economic stimulus package has pushed President Barack Obama’s Job Approval Ratings down over the past week. While the President,... The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Approval Index for Sunday shows that 36% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing as President."

Overall, 59% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance so far while 39% disapprove. Today’s results mark the first time that Obama’s overall rating has fallen below 60% as either President-elect or President.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_approval_index

at that rate you should be able to get started on your backlogged chores soon... :roll: :wink:

If you follow polls, you know that the trip from 83 to 59 isn't very far, but the trip from 59 to 35 is a long, long way.

I'd be surprised if he falls under 50 anytime soon.

I really don't trust polls... but given Obama's ineptness on putting togeather a spending/stimulas package that can't pass with out major consessions in a democratic controlled government, it looks like he is headed down faster then equity in a depression..
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
Steve said:
badaxemoo said:
Steve said:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_approval_index

at that rate you should be able to get started on your backlogged chores soon... :roll: :wink:

If you follow polls, you know that the trip from 83 to 59 isn't very far, but the trip from 59 to 35 is a long, long way.

I'd be surprised if he falls under 50 anytime soon.

I really don't trust polls... but given Obama's ineptness on putting togeather a spending/stimulas package that can't pass with out major consessions in a democratic controlled government, it looks like he is headed down faster then equity in a depression..

Well take my bet then!

You can rid the board of a radical moonbat.
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
Larrry said:
What a childish contest you have proposed.

I firmly believe his numbers will go that low unless some people get some balls and stand up to his ideas. So if I did make this bet I would be hoping his numbers go down and that would include the US going down with his numbers. I do not want this country to go down that low. I will not make a bet that would be won if the US failed.

Go try doing something more productive with your time rather some chilish bet.

Um....wouldn't people standing up to his ideas be the ones polling that they disapprove of Obama?

Did the U.S. go down when Bush's numbers hit the pavement?

We're still here!

And by the way, Larrry, I still haven't heard any concrete examples from you about how Obama's ideals are in direct opposition with those of the framers of the Constitution.
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Here all along you libs have been telling us the US failed with Bush.

So you want me to say that I want the US to fail, sorry I will not play your childish games.

Last question, Second Amendment. That hands down wins the argument with you unless you are a childish minded person.
 
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