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American Form of Government?

What Form of Government is The United States?

  • Democracy

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  • Republic

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Ben H

Well-known member
It's scary to take this question and poll an average group of Americans, hopefully the results will be very heavy to one side here, I think we have a little bit more informed crowd, but I'm still curious. If you aren't sure, just go with your first instinct based on what you think you know before looking up the difference.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Ben? Are you asking what form it is supposed to be, or how it actually operates?

It could be argued, that the US was originally a Republic, but operates as a Democracy!
 

NMRANCHER

Well-known member
Ben H said:
It's scary to take this question and poll an average group of Americans, hopefully the results will be very heavy to one side here, I think we have a little bit more informed crowd, but I'm still curious. If you aren't sure, just go with your first instinct based on what you think you know before looking up the difference.

First glance. It looks kinda like Rome government did before the collapse of the Empire.

Second glance: He who has the control of the money has the power to tell others what to do.

Third glance: Hang on, this will be the longest 8 seconds in your life.
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
There sure is a lot of talk about Texas leaving the U.S. When you ask them questions like, "What about the SS you have paid?" The answer is usually, "It is spent anyway."

There is a whole lot of folks not wanting to be saddled with this debt - especially the big portions going to bail out the California real estate boondoggle.

Others just have their reasons it seems.

Is this talk going on in any of the other states from common folk?
 

Ben H

Well-known member
U.S. Constitution

Article IV - The States
Section 4 - Republican government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
There sure is a lot of talk about Texas leaving the U.S. When you ask them questions like, "What about the SS you have paid?" The answer is usually, "It is spent anyway."

There is a whole lot of folks not wanting to be saddled with this debt - especially the big portions going to bail out the California real estate boondoggle.

Others just have their reasons it seems.

Is this talk going on in any of the other states from common folk?

Do you want to help build a bridge across a dry gulch to Oldtimer's place in Montana with your Texas earned money??

Right now, leaving the union would probably be very profitable for Texas.
 
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Anonymous

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TexasBred said:
backhoeboogie said:
There sure is a lot of talk about Texas leaving the U.S. When you ask them questions like, "What about the SS you have paid?" The answer is usually, "It is spent anyway."

There is a whole lot of folks not wanting to be saddled with this debt - especially the big portions going to bail out the California real estate boondoggle.

Others just have their reasons it seems.

Is this talk going on in any of the other states from common folk?

Do you want to help build a bridge across a dry gulch to Oldtimer's place in Montana with your Texas earned money??

Right now, leaving the union would probably be very profitable for Texas.

Actually Montana may be in better shape than Texas....We have a balanced budget (by law)- and last year had a tax rebate because of the surplus- besides the Coal Tax Fund which is a rainy day fund that can't be touched except under exceptional circumstances....
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
backhoeboogie said:
There sure is a lot of talk about Texas leaving the U.S. When you ask them questions like, "What about the SS you have paid?" The answer is usually, "It is spent anyway."

There is a whole lot of folks not wanting to be saddled with this debt - especially the big portions going to bail out the California real estate boondoggle.

Others just have their reasons it seems.

Is this talk going on in any of the other states from common folk?

Do you want to help build a bridge across a dry gulch to Oldtimer's place in Montana with your Texas earned money??

Right now, leaving the union would probably be very profitable for Texas.

Actually Montana may be in better shape than Texas....We have a balanced budget (by law)- and last year had a tax rebate because of the surplus- besides the Coal Tax Fund which is a rainy day fund that can't be touched except under exceptional circumstances....

We didn't get a refund. We don't pay in the first place. No state tax here.
 

Ben H

Well-known member
hypo, there is a lot of truth to your statement, the question I posted in the poll isn't really quite clear. I guess in my opinion we are a republic until we ammend the constitution. So, what do we do about it is the question. How many americans have taken the oath to defend the Constitution? Being a Republic it is our duty to rule by law, not by mob rule or popular vote. If a law violates the Constitution it is null and void.

I think Chuck Norris recently said on Glenn Beck that he may need to run for President of Texas!

Here's a way of looking at something:
US Constitution
Article III, Section 3

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their, Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Given that the Oath of enlistment for political offices and the military states that you will "defend the Constitution against all enemies forgein and domestic", those who seek to cause harm to the Constitution are enemies, be they forgein or domestic. "...or in adhering to their Enemies", so if one supports allowing our Constitution to be trampled on by allowing a democracy, gun laws or so forth, they are commiting treason.

Now you may think about the video of the Marine, was he commiting treason by discussing revolution? Only if the the revolution is against the United States, but I think it would be against the traitors who have committed treason, not against the United States, therefore his idea of Revolution would NOT be Treason by definition.

Oh, and by the way, I'm not calling for an armed revolution.
 
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