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Amnesty and the Tea Party's Libertarian Friends

hypocritexposer

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libertarians like OT and the Kochs...


June 20, 2014
Amnesty and the Tea Party's Libertarian Friends
By Tina Trent

After Eric Cantor’s defeat by newcomer Dave Brat, the New York Times ran a dozen articles and blog posts about the election. This flood of words tried to conceal the primary concern of voters in Cantor’s district: amnesty for illegal immigrants. One story did address amnesty and the election, but Times reporters mused at far greater length about anything and everything else.

Such papering-over is to be expected of the Times, which does not wish to draw attention to the fact that most American citizens disagree with open-borders politics. Amnesty’s other cheerleaders also prioritize suppressing the public’s real views on legal and illegal immigration: this motley crew includes the Chamber of Commerce, La Raza, Grover Norquist, Barack Obama, the RNC, the DNC, and even powerful elements within the American Conservative Union.

The Tea Party stands virtually alone in loudly opposing amnesty, and for doing so they are targeted with slurs like “nativist” and “racist.” While their views represent those of many, if not most Americans, the toxic label “racist” intimidates their potential allies from speaking out. This is why election results like the defeat of Cantor come as a surprise to the political establishment. It is also why silencing the Tea Party on immigration is a key ambition of pro-amnesty forces.

Unfortunately, it is not the Chamber of Commerce or even RINOs that threaten to undermine the Tea Party’s courageous stance on immigration. That danger lies closer to home, in national libertarian groups. In particular, Americans for Prosperity and Freedomworks have been misleading the grassroots on amnesty. With a vote on immigration a strong possibility in coming weeks, as Erick Erickson warns in RedState, it is time to confront this deception, however unpleasant the confrontation may prove to be.

The official line offered by AFP and Freedomworks is that they are “sitting out” the immigration debate. But there is no such thing as sitting out such a crucial issue. Worse, they aren’t really sitting it out. Behind the scenes and through other organizations, the primary donors to AFP and the primary thinkers at Freedomworks actually advocate for increased immigration and amnesty. When they say they are “sitting immigration out,” they are being dishonest.

The Kochs, for example, are not just the founders of AFP: they are the founders of the most prominent right-of-center pro-amnesty think tank, CATO Institute. Through CATO, they subsidize the work of Alex Nowrasteh and others who argue that “unauthorized immigrants” do not strain the welfare system, social safety nets, or the job market. By speaking from the right, CATO plays a vital role in legitimating the bipartisan nature of the elitists’ push for ever-increasing immigration and amnesty.

Within the beltway, the Kochs are not shy about using their money to support mass amnesty and open borders, not only by subsidizing CATO but also the open borders, pro-amnesty, libertarian magazine Reason. So why do they refuse to be consistent with AFP or at least make their real opinion clear to the hundreds of thousands of Tea Party activists who have volunteered with or donated money to AFP?

The answer is obvious: many citizen activists would hesitate to work with AFP if they knew that the organization’s leaders are delivering one set of marching orders to the grassroots outside the beltway while underwriting pro-amnesty campaigns inside the beltway. And we wouldn’t work with AFP at all if it endorsed CATO’s immigration stance. So AFP plays us for fools and hopes we swallow the duplicitous claim that they’re just “sitting out” amnesty. But the duplicity goes deeper that that.

I worked as an independent contractor with AFP in Florida during the 2012 election (I received approximately $1550 for honorariums and donated many more volunteer hours to AFP). AFP’s Florida key staff included several figures tied to Jeb Bush. Away from microphones, their attitude towards grassroots Tea Party activists, especially social conservatives, reflected the attitude of Bush and other RINOs, particularly on amnesty.

Tea Party activists felt pressured to sit down and shut up about amnesty lest they be seen as racists. And at the crucial moment when Marco Rubio betrayed his promise to voters to oppose amnesty, AFP gave Rubio a prominent platform at their Defending the American Dream Summit. It was a slap in the face to every Florida activist who had volunteered his or her time for Rubio’s election based on his tape-recorded promise to not back amnesty.

I know many Florida Tea Party activists who are deeply fed up with AFP’s immigration deception (not to mention their incessant fundraising and their insistence that they speak for grassroots groups who have no reciprocal voice in AFP’s platform – but those are issues for another day). But with jobs and families to support, few citizen activists feel they can stand up to AFP. Some also feel pressure to stay quiet lest they attract attention from AFP’s belligerent legal team.

The consequence of AFP’s meddling is a weakened Tea Party voice against illegal immigration. Freedomworks is more responsive and respectful towards the grassroots, but they too are using the excuse of “sitting amnesty out.”

Why do we put up with this? With few friends and many enemies, it is understandable that Tea Party activists wish to trust their political allies. But amnesty and border control aren’t like other political issues. They represent an existential crisis that threatens to overwhelm every other cause, from repealing Obamacare to protecting gun rights to returning local control to the school curriculum and reducing national debt.

It will take years of legislative negotiation to end Obamacare and rein in the federal Departments of Education and Justice. But if we don’t secure the border first and prevent amnesty, Florida will soon become a permanent blue state with Georgia close behind. Even Texas will follow in fewer years than anyone wants to contemplate. After that, there is zero demographic chance of Republicans ever gaining the House, Senate, or Presidency again.

If we don’t put all our current energy into closing the border and defeating amnesty legislation, none of our other fights will matter. We cannot allow even our best political friends to exert control over our position on immigration and amnesty. We can’t let them whisper “racism,” for their sake as much as ours: the border crisis is only emboldening radicals’ demands that Americans censor any opposition to untrammelled illegal immigration. Soon, even voicing any desire for border control will be unacceptable political speech.

What to do? We need to confront AFP and Freedomworks about their stance on immigration. We need to talk about the ways their “neutrality” claim undermines our anti-amnesty message and honestly address their collaboration with open-borders agitators.

Essentially, we need to hold the libertarian nationals to the same standard to which we would hold any elected official. If a friend back home goes to Washington and double-crosses our platform, we impose consequences. The same must go for any national organization that partner with us. They are powerful groups, but we gave them that power. We can also take it away. The future of America literally depends on it.

Tina Trent is a writer and coalition-building consultant. She lives in the north Georgia mountains and blogs about crime, politics, and academia at tinatrent.com.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/06/amnesty_and_the_tea_partys_libertarian_friends.html
 
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Anonymous

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Governor Johnson believes in open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens. He has stated that the border should be dealt with on a free market basis to make it as easy as possible to come to the US and start working. This is based on the libertarian viewpoint that each person has the right to seek out employment and that markets will function best to establish workforces and people will react to those markets.

2012 Election Plan

Governor Johnson has proposed an immigration plan that proposes establishing better border security, establishing a better working relationship with Mexico, setting up a better guest worker program, and making it easier to make illegal aliens legal.
1.Establish real and cost-effective border security
1.Continue to encourage and allow legal immigration.
2.Support current border deterrents and security measures.

2.Create a temporary guest worker program that makes sense

1.Expand and streamline a market based temporary guest worker program.
2.Enact an application and tracking procedure for guest workers, such as an e-verify system. Procedures must be quick, simple and efficient in providing documentation information, and must meet the needs of both employers and willing workers.
3.Require guest workers to not only pay income taxes, but also provide proof of adequate health care coverage through insurance, secured savings programs, bonds, or a combination thereof.
4.Allow spouses and dependents to enter the U.S. with guest workers, but only with proof of adequate health coverage and subject to the same background checks and health requirements.

3.Impose meaningful enforcement of immigration laws

1.Establish procedures and devote adequate resources that are sufficient to actually identify illegal immigrants and deport them. Implement a “one strike, you’re out” policy toward illegal immigrants with regard to future eligibility for guest worker programs.
2.Impose and enforce sanctions and fines for noncompliance with immigration laws by employers that are sufficiently costly, ensuring that the risks simply are not worth the rewards.

4.Enact a reality-based process for current illegal workers to earn legal status

1.Allow a two-year grace period during which illegal immigrants already in the U.S. can come forward, pay any taxes owed, provide proof of consistent employment, pass a criminal background check, and apply for guest worker status.

5.Reduce border crime

1.Address the root cause of most border crime by legalizing marijuana, thereby removing 70% of the current cross-border illegal drug trade and replacing cartel and prohibition-related violence with legal, regulated and nonviolent commerce.

6.Achieve a better working relationship with Mexico

1.Stimulate cross-border investment through a robust, above-board and legal guest worker program.
2.Strengthen the Mexican government by dramatically weakening the cartels through the legalization of marijuana.
3.Aggressively negotiate mutually beneficial agreements with Mexico regarding such issues as funds transfers, taxation of income earned in the U.S. by guest workers, and deportation and incarceration of Mexican nationals arrested in the United States.

Yep-- both the 2012 Presidential candidate and the Libertarian party recognized the same as I did- that the current immigration plan has not worked for the past 70 years- and that the logistics of removing/deporting all illegals- while leaving their legal/citizen anchor babies/families in the U.S., is unworkable... A new direction needs to be taken....

Also- locally our countywide unemployment is down to 2.7%- and our workforce is the highest its been in years--- and we still have business's screaming for help just so they can keep their doors open... And our state employment service says we are going to need many more employees to take the place of the retiring baby boomers in order to keep up with the projected statewide growth of business over the next 20 years...
 

iwannabeacowboy

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A. Its called a fence. Then its called a penalty for hiring illegals. As far as I'm concerned, if their parents broke the law, the illegal babies can hope the bus home with them. Stop rewarding the behavior you want to stop. The retarded idea of doubling down on it is rediculous.

I bet you extended your kids curfew later because they broke it and couldn't make it in on time.

B. If the economy is just rocking all over and there aren't enough workers, why are food stamps at an all time high by a significant percent?


I'd wager to say im way more familiar with attempting to hire in the oil boom than yourself. The issue is that no one is hungry enough to move to ND and freeze their arse off when they can sit on their arse eating candy and smoking joints paid for by the working folks.
 
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iwannabeacowboy said:
A. Its called a fence. Then its called a penalty for hiring illegals. As far as I'm concerned, if their parents broke the law, the illegal babies can hope the bus home with them. Stop rewarding the behavior you want to stop. The retarded idea of doubling down on it is rediculous.

I bet you extended your kids curfew later because they broke it and couldn't make it in on time.

I'm not a great lover of the anchor baby idea either- but that has been the law of the land for well over 100 years-- ruled upon by the SCOTUS so its kind of hard to now start refusing them...


The Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution indicates that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." The Supreme Court of the United States ruled in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), that the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees citizenship for nearly all individuals born in the country, regardless of their parents' citizenship or immigration status.
 

loomixguy

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Ask your brethren in uniform in Colorado & neighboring states just how that legalized pot is working out for them.

Did your parents have any children who lived?
 

Mike

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Whitewing said:
Thank God for the Messiah. Of the 100 people in Montana, 97.3% of them are working. It's all good.
The United States Census Bureau estimates that the population of Montana in 2013 was 1,005,292, which is ranked the 44th largest population in the United States. This estimate shows a 1.6% increase since the last census in 2010, also conducted by the United States Census Bureau. The population density of the state is 6.86 people per square mile, ranked 48th largest density in the United States

Heck, if they all worked TWO jobs each, it wouldn't make a dent in the U.S. Workforce numbers. :roll:
 

Brad S

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I'd suggest the ONLY path to citizenship is through legal emigration, thus emigrants not legally in The US are not legible for citizenship, well unless they go home and get in line. I'm inclined to offer guest worker status to illegals if they come forward. Guest worker offspring should not be automatic citizens, so we'd need a change there. Employers should have a worker eligibility clearinghouse, and be heavily sanctioned for hiring illegals. Illegals should be presumed malevolent if they choose not to participate in green card documentation.

The Party is trying to make legal voters out of illegal voters - a natural reaction to pressure to eliminate historical criminal voting schemes.
 

loomixguy

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When I got married in 199#, I had to wait until I returned to the States to file the paperwork with DOJ and INS so she could get her visa and come here legally. At that time, we waited for 4 months for her paperwork to go through the system, have her final interview, medical exam, and have her visa issued. She became a US citizen 6 years later.

When 9/11 happened, everything changed. Higher fees, more documentation, and a much longer waiting period, a year, or longer if you didn't have all your i's dotted and t's crossed. Contrary to the universal belief in the Philippines, God doesn't work at the US Embassy in Manila...but many there still "pray por de bisa" multiple times daily.

Legal immigration is difficult, but not impossible....and with very few exceptions, should be the ONLY way to come here to live.
 

Steve

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not unlike Loomixguy,..

I married a foreign national.. (Scottish) , prior to getting "authorization" to get married both of us had to go through a series of interviews..

We were married in November,

I transferred in January, and my wife's paperwork, medical exam, security checks ect, were approved by February..

3 to 4 months...

just as we love our country she loves hers and is still a 'registered alien or permanent resident..

recently she had to get her alien ID card updated..

we dutifully filled out the forms,.. sent in the check for $450 and waited..

several months later she went in for her interview, and biometrics..

we now have waited 3 months for her new alien ID card..

if a lawful resident has to go through the process,.. then illegals should be automatically rejected for ignoring that process and breaking our laws..
 
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