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Amnesty bills exempts illegals form obamacare.

Tam

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Really well thought out wasn't it. It costs around $5000 to employ a US CITIZEN under Obamacare and nothing to employ one of the millions that will be getting their legal rights to stay and take jobs from those US citizens. :roll:
 

Steve

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exemption from government fees is why many still hire illegals.. it costs more to Hire an American.

the goverment just needs to fix that and most jobs would return to American hands...

if an employer was to claim the cost of labor as an expense and he was also required to show he paid they cost of compliance and tax liability.

then few would bother to hire illegals. but as it is now.. they can hire and fire and still claim the causal labor costs.

no insurance,.. no workers comp coverage.. no FICA.. the list goes on and on.. and adds up to a large chunk of change for many small businesses..



A major economic drawback, though, to allowing thousands...probably millions...of US businesses to pay under-market wages and benefits to undocumented workers is that it depresses wages for all workers in the US. All Americans workers, then have decreased incomes, lower benefits and higher rates of poverty and hunger.

All employers have to do to comply with the law is complete a form called an I-9 verifying new workers’ legal status. Doing more than that opens employers up to penalties for discriminating on the basis of citizenship status or national origin.
 

Steve

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if it was actually enforced.. the new framework would work.. but the key is enforcement...

does anyone actually believe a president who is currently breaking existing law with an executive order would enforce more stringent immigration law

The Octogang framework calls for a “requiring prospective workers to demonstrate both legal status and identity, through non-forgeable electronic means prior to obtaining employment,” which hints at the same sort of thing. Obama’s framework “mandates a fraud‐resistant, tamper‐resistant Social Security card and requires workers to use fraud‐and tamper‐resistant documents to prove authorization to work in the United States.”

the end result.. law abiding US citizens will need a national ID card to work.. and illegals will get another pass,.... or amnesty..
 

Faster horses

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Steve said:
if it was actually enforced.. the new framework would work.. but the key is enforcement...

does anyone actually believe a president who is currently breaking existing law with an executive order would enforce more stringent immigration law

The Octogang framework calls for a “requiring prospective workers to demonstrate both legal status and identity, through non-forgeable electronic means prior to obtaining employment,” which hints at the same sort of thing. Obama’s framework “mandates a fraud‐resistant, tamper‐resistant Social Security card and requires workers to use fraud‐and tamper‐resistant documents to prove authorization to work in the United States.”

the end result.. law abiding US citizens will need a national ID card to work.. and illegals will get another pass,.... or amnesty..


Totally Un-American.
I guess Whitewing is right. America is toast. :cry:
I was born in 1945 and I think I lived through the best of times.
My grandson will not know the America I lived in. He will be
19 years old in August and he is most definitely a Conservative.
Rare, in kids his age.
 

Traveler

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The Undocumented Democrats can easily be hired full time, but full fledged citizens can't without providing for them ever more costly Obamacare insurance. One more kick in the nuts from the Buckwheat Administration, which has none.
 

knabe

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As third world Latinos vote themselves Caucasian assets at what point will Caucasians either leave the state of CA which they are already doing and at what point will they start acting like third world people because there is no alternative?
 

Mike

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To the Left, it's a matter of dividing the masses into segments that will vote for the Democrats.

Exactly as in Lyndon Johnson's statement before the passage of the Civil Rights Act, he said that if it passed..............'Blacks will be voting Democrat for the next 200 years' (paraphrasing or something to that effect).

Exact quote: “I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”
 

Steve

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knabe said:
As third world Latinos vote themselves Caucasian assets at what point will Caucasians either leave the state of CA which they are already doing and at what point will they start acting like third world people because there is no alternative?

if you have ever been to California there are already large sections of the cities that are third world countries...
 
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