mp.freelance said:
Ordinary Americans weren't the ones spitting on soldiers, it was hippie scum.
It was "ordinary" Americans who refused to rent apartments to military couples, that charged higher rates of interest on car loans. It was the mayor, not a long haired hippy, who went to the post commander and said "the business owners in my town don't want your people in their stores in uniform. They say it's "disruptive." Disruptive.

They wanted our money. The town couldn't have survived without the GI's money, but they didn't want to see the uniform. So the young soldier couldn't stop by the store on his way home and get a gallon of milk for his kids. He had to go home, change clothes, and go back to the store! That's one of the intersting things about this turn of opinion on the Iraqi war: there's no leader, no long haired hippies, popular movie stars, leading the way. It just seems to be a realization, finally, by people that things are not going well for this country.
And if Americans are going to turn tail and run from this war, then it's just a sign of the emasculation of this country, which is also primarily due to hippie scum.
No, it's a sign of realizing that we were lied to about the need for this war. It's a sign that we understand it was unnecessary and badly managed. The Bush Bunch sent our soldiers into harms way without body armor, without armored vehicles. And we have those vehicles; they just chose to leave them in the parking lots because it cost too much to ship them!! How many young people are mained for life because of this war on the cheap?
The sad fact of the world is that war is a necessity in and of itself. It's one of the phenomena that makes us human. Either you defeat others or you are defeated, and peace is nothing more than the interlude between wars.
When are you joining up to fight one of these "necessity" wars?
This isn't pretty, but reality rarely is. Pretending like the world is all sugar drops and candy canes, where war and violence aren't necessary, is nothing more than self-delusion. Unfortunately, the pervasive liberality in Western culture, where everybody wants to make believe and hold hands, is what's isolating us from the cold hard truth.
The cold hard truth is that we were attacked by Osama Bin Laden from Afghanistan. The world rallied to our side and went into Afghanistan with us to catch/kill Bin Laden. Bush turned the world against us by choosing to lie and attempt to mislead the world into another war in Iraq. The world didn't buy into it, but many Americans did. I didn't. Sometimes violence is necessary; it wasn't necessary to attack Iraq.
Do you think the terrorists who bombed London really care about anything but carnage? Do you think giving them counseling and improving their self esteem would have prevented the attacks? You have a right to your opinion, but I believe killing them is a hell of a lot more effective.
You're pretty pitiful. No, I don't want to give them counseling. I want to leave them alone to live in their world and them leave me alone to live in mine. George W. Bush thinks it's his responsibility to bring peace and democracy to the world. Of course, he's pretty selective to which parts of the world he starts in. He chooses a part that's rich in oil.