reader (the Second) said:The moral is beware of your wishful thinking making you look like a fool. Advice to Orly and hypo.
And as for everyone else who jumps on the bandwagon willy-nilly when another unproven claim is posted, maybe this parody will make you stop and think and reassess hypo's ability to be objective and to verify before he posts.
reader (the Second) said:‘Birthers’ Latch Onto Forged Kenyan Birth Certificate
By David Weigel 8/3/09 8:50 AM
On Sunday night, the online community of “birthers” erupted after Orly Taitz released a photo of a “Kenyan birth certificate” for Barack Obama. The “birther” movement quickly divided between the credulous — people who believed that the new certificate was genuine — and skeptics who believed that their movement was being taken for a ride.
This story needs a little bit of prelude. Last year, as the bloggers at ObamaConspiracy remember, Philip Berg included an obviously forged birth certificate with his lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee. (The certificate was Canadian and signed by “Dudley Do-Right.”) Foreign birth certificates, unlike, say, American passports, are prime targets for forgery — few people stateside know what the real ones look like, and the penalties for forging them are basically non-existent.
So here it is: the “certified copy of registration of birth” that Orly Taitz obtained and is submitting as evidence in her lawsuit on behalf of Alan Keyes. The most obvious problems:
- It records Barack Obama Sr’s age as “26.” Obama Sr was born in 1936; his son was born in 1961.
- Its publication date is February 17, 1964, but it purports be a document of the “Republic of Kenya.” Kenya did not become a Republic until December 12, 1964, a year after it won independence from Great Britain.
- It’s signed by “registrar E.F. Lavender.” Earth Friendly Lavender is a kind of detergent, and government officials who use vanity initials on official documents are, to put it mildly, rare.
- The kicker? The image is part of the extremely ill-informed conspiracy theory that Obama was born in Mombasa—conveniently, one of the more Muslim parts of the country.
This has always been a red flag for conspiracy theorists, so it deserves some explanation. Barack Obama Sr. was born and educated in Nyanza Province, in southwestern Kenya, on Lake Victoria. This is the area where Obama’s family lived and continues to live; Sarah Obama, the step-grandmother of the president, lives in Nyang’oma Kogelo, a small town in the province. But Mombasa is a city on the Indian Ocean, a thousand miles to the east. It didn’t even have an international airport until 1979. And the city wasn’t even part of Kenya when the future president was born. Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar until December 12, 1963, when it became part of the newly independent Kenya.
The new forgery? Why, it claims that the president was born in Coast General Hospital in Mombasa.
- As some FreeRepublic posters have pointed out, the document contains a number that’s either a humorous coincidence or a wink by the forger. It’s number 47,044. Barack Obama, 47 years old, is the 44th president of the United States.
So what’s the likeliest story here? One popular theory right now is that the document was faked to discredit the “birther” movement. That wouldn’t be surprising: another document that circulated over the weekend was a “certificate of birth” from “Kenya colony,” and its creator tipped his hand, telling readers that it was a “work of parody.”
This would be funny except it is sooooo true. They hope aboard the bandwagon of "Hope and Change" Will not listen or check facts. Ignoring and changing the subject and calling names when facts are presented to show its a lie...........reader (the Second) said:The moral is beware of your wishful thinking making you look like a fool. Advice to Orly and hypo.
And as for everyone else who jumps on the bandwagon willy-nilly when another unproven claim is posted, maybe this parody will make you stop and think and reassess hypo's ability to be objective and to verify before he posts.
If you can't get access to Obama's BC to confirm it's authenticity, why not get the courts to take a look at this Kenyan BC and say it is bogus or a forgery.
The courts should be concerned with documents that could possibly be forgeries of Obama's history, and validate them one way or another. If this is a forgery in anyway, Taitz and Keyes should be disbarred and have to give up their sources, so they can be punished in a court of law, don't you think?
It sure looks authentic, as real as the one presented on the web of Obama's Hawaiian COLB.
It's got the seal, official emblem etc.
reader (the Second) said:backhoeboogie said:The BC is bug dust to me.
If he is American born, why did he lie on his scholarships?
He is a liar. Either way he is a liar. But I knew that back when he was debating and using weasel words. So it is no news.
There are real issues out there that concern me.
So it doesn't bother you that sham documents and arguments have been posted OVER AND OVER by those trying to discredit the elected president?
Another fake Kenyan birth certificate. The second or third in a couple of days posted and claimed to be official and authentic. Clearly a fake.
reader (the Second) said:hypocritexposer said:please show every one where I claimed it to be authentic...
Like I said before, you are a real hoot hypo.
So you posted it, knowing it was a fake, but you failed to say that??!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
And you clamored all night long for people to look at it, claiming you had REAL PROOF finally for your and Orly's claims. You yelled cuz I ignored the post. You kept bumping it. All because it was a fake and you knew it and what was your point again???
Hehehehe. All I can say is that you need your head examined.
reader (the Second) said:hypocritexposer said:please show every one where I claimed it to be authentic...
Like I said before, you are a real hoot hypo.
So you posted it, knowing it was a fake, but you failed to say that??!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
And you clamored all night long for people to look at it, claiming you had REAL PROOF finally for your and Orly's claims. You yelled cuz I ignored the post. You kept bumping it. All because it was a fake and you knew it and what was your point again???
Hehehehe. All I can say is that you need your head examined.
hypocritexposer said:Alice, have you looked at the COLB lately, how many different ones do you see in the pictures?
reader (the Second) said:He's a weasel, that's for sure. A pathetic one. He gets points for his enthusiasm.
reader (the Second) said:backhoeboogie said:reader (the Second) said:He's a weasel, that's for sure. A pathetic one. He gets points for his enthusiasm.
This comes from someone who whines about name calling.
I fight dirty with those who fight dirty. You don't hold back with your insults for me and liberals everywhere.
Its publication date is February 17, 1964, but it purports be a document of the “Republic of Kenya.” Kenya did not become a Republic until December 12, 1964, a year after it won independence from Great Britain.
The Constitution of Kenya was formed on 12th Dec 1963. The Kenya Constitution includes the President, the Cabinet, the Parliament, Judiciary, Court, Judicial & Public Service Commission and the safeguarding of Trust Land. Individual rights are protected under the Kenya Constitution, that also makes provisions for citizenship
By the affirmative vote on Second and Third Reading of 65% of the membership of the National Assembly the Kenya Constitution can be amended.
Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar until December 12, 1963, when it became part of the newly independent Kenya.
The courts should be concerned with documents that could possibly be forgeries of Obama's history, and validate them one way or another. If this is a forgery in anyway, Taitz and Keyes should be disbarred and have to give up their sources, so they can be punished in a court of law, don't you think?
reader (the Second) said:backhoeboogie said:The BC is bug dust to me.
If he is American born, why did he lie on his scholarships?
He is a liar. Either way he is a liar. But I knew that back when he was debating and using weasel words. So it is no news.
There are real issues out there that concern me.
So it doesn't bother you that sham documents and arguments have been posted OVER AND OVER by those trying to discredit the elected president?
Another fake Kenyan birth certificate. The second or third in a couple of days posted and claimed to be official and authentic. Clearly a fake.
Regarding the "Kenyan birth certificate" (found here), a fellow DUer made an excellent suggestion:
cliffordu Sun Aug-02-09 03:43 PM
20. We need to create THOUSANDS of them and ship them all over the ******* place.
bury the fxxxxxx in precise fakes, all just a little different from each other.
I wanna see heads explode. I wanna see people drooling from the breakdowns.
Won't you please help? Also, for anyone else (who doesn't have Photoshop) we will need a name for this operation.