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Steve

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Obama was briefed our Ambassador to Libya was missing.. and then went to sleep...

Obama Knew About Libyan Attack Within 90 Minutes, Went to Bed

Barack Obama knew of the attack on the Libyan consulate within 90 minutes of it beginning. It wasn’t until hours later that the body of Ambassador Chris Stevens was found

There is no doubt that Obama knew that the attacks involved AK-47s, along with Rocket propelled grenades. He knew that his ambassador was in grave danger and yet knowing all of this, and not knowing the status of Ambassador Stevens, Obama allegedly went quietly to bed.

Obama went to bed without knowing the status of the US Ambassador.

I don't know what to say.... what could be said...

I honestly can't find the words..
 
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Steve said:
Obama was briefed our Ambassador to Libya was missing.. and then went to sleep...

Obama Knew About Libyan Attack Within 90 Minutes, Went to Bed

Barack Obama knew of the attack on the Libyan consulate within 90 minutes of it beginning. It wasn’t until hours later that the body of Ambassador Chris Stevens was found

There is no doubt that Obama knew that the attacks involved AK-47s, along with Rocket propelled grenades. He knew that his ambassador was in grave danger and yet knowing all of this, and not knowing the status of Ambassador Stevens, Obama allegedly went quietly to bed.

Obama went to bed without knowing the status of the US Ambassador.

I don't know what to say.... what could be said...

I honestly can't find the words..

:roll: OMG-- like I said before- you must have never been in a position of leadership where you've had multiple issues occurring... What is Obama going to do from thousands of miles away that those in local command can't do... :???:
Do you really believe that he should start micromanaging every military operation?

Sorry- but I learned a long time ago a good commander/administrator in military/paramilitary command surrounds themselves with competent folks and gives them the authority and doesn't try to micromanage every time there is a toe stubbed...
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
Obama was briefed our Ambassador to Libya was missing.. and then went to sleep...

Obama Knew About Libyan Attack Within 90 Minutes, Went to Bed

Barack Obama knew of the attack on the Libyan consulate within 90 minutes of it beginning. It wasn’t until hours later that the body of Ambassador Chris Stevens was found

There is no doubt that Obama knew that the attacks involved AK-47s, along with Rocket propelled grenades. He knew that his ambassador was in grave danger and yet knowing all of this, and not knowing the status of Ambassador Stevens, Obama allegedly went quietly to bed.

Obama went to bed without knowing the status of the US Ambassador.

I don't know what to say.... what could be said...

I honestly can't find the words..

:roll: OMG-- like I said before- you must have never been in a position of leadership where you've had multiple issues occurring... What is Obama going to do from thousands of miles away that those in local command can't do... :???:
Do you really believe that he should start micromanaging every military operation?

He11 he isn't even managing anything, let alone micromangaing,the lack of attendance at intel briefings show that. To defend him is plain stupid

Sorry- but I learned a long time ago a good commander/administrator in military/paramilitary command surrounds themselves with competent folks and gives them the authority and doesn't try to micromanage every time there is a toe stubbed...


You mean surrounding himself with tax cheats, American hating individuals, and his terrorist buddies. Are you that stupid
 

Steve

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
Obama was briefed our Ambassador to Libya was missing.. and then went to sleep...

Obama Knew About Libyan Attack Within 90 Minutes, Went to Bed

Barack Obama knew of the attack on the Libyan consulate within 90 minutes of it beginning. It wasn’t until hours later that the body of Ambassador Chris Stevens was found

There is no doubt that Obama knew that the attacks involved AK-47s, along with Rocket propelled grenades. He knew that his ambassador was in grave danger and yet knowing all of this, and not knowing the status of Ambassador Stevens, Obama allegedly went quietly to bed.

Obama went to bed without knowing the status of the US Ambassador.

I don't know what to say.... what could be said...

I honestly can't find the words..

:roll: OMG-- like I said before- you must have never been in a position of leadership where you've had multiple issues occurring... What is Obama going to do from thousands of miles away that those in local command can't do... :???:
Do you really believe that he should start micromanaging every military operation?

Sorry- but I learned a long time ago a good commander/administrator in military/paramilitary command surrounds themselves with competent folks and gives them the authority and doesn't try to micromanage every time there is a toe stubbed...


I can't believe you actually put it that way?

as sheriff,.. if you had a murder at 10:30pm, you would go to bed.. my arse..

or a missing deputy?

two of them shot? one missing... yep it's bed time..

think about what you just said...

a consulate in flames and a dead Ambassador is not a stubbed toe..

or is it to you two?
 

Tam

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Here let me guess to what Oldtimer and Flounder would say

Well what was the sense of losing a nights sleep the Ambassador was in Libya it's not like he was just down the block where Obama could go out and find him and carry him to the hospital . As I'm sure that would have been the case if he was.

Besides he had an early morning flight to Vegas to catch. you wouldn't want him to be late for his 200th fund raiser would you. Romney might out fund raise him and he could have that now could he.
:roll: :mad:


The other day I heard one of Obama's defender claiming if Romney's Super Pac would stop taking huge checks from Donors maybe Obama could cancel a few of his fund raisers. and stay in Washington to deal with the Ambassador's death. :shock: :mad: I really couldn't believe I heard him right, it was so cold.

And tonight another one of Obama's defenders claimed Obama didn't lie about the terrorist attack. :shock: He unlike Romney was waiting to get information to what happen before speaking out about the event of the evening. :roll: Did I miss something or was it not Obama and his talking heads retracting their week old spontanious protest story and FINALLY admitting it was a Terrorist Attack after the US Ambassador to the UN was on all the Sunday morning talk shows explaining it was not planned attack and Carney claiming it had nothing to do with the Obama Foreign affair policies. Was it not Obama and Hillary that spent tax payer money to buy time on Pakistan TV to apologizing for a little seen video that they claimed offended Muslims and caused the whole mess.

And why are any of the pundits claiming this was the first Terrorist Attack on the US since Obama took office. How about the Fort Hood Shooting and the Christmas day bomber? Why do they allow this incompetent twit and his mouth pieces to get away with calling the Fort Hood Shooting WORK PLACE VIOLENCE. The good doctor was a raging Muslim extremist just like the wack jobs in Libya, Egypt and twenty other counties that are attacking US Embassies. :x

edited to include

WOW Oldtimer posted his comment while I was typing my post :shock:
 
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Anonymous

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Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
Obama was briefed our Ambassador to Libya was missing.. and then went to sleep...



I don't know what to say.... what could be said...

I honestly can't find the words..

:roll: OMG-- like I said before- you must have never been in a position of leadership where you've had multiple issues occurring... What is Obama going to do from thousands of miles away that those in local command can't do... :???:
Do you really believe that he should start micromanaging every military operation?

Sorry- but I learned a long time ago a good commander/administrator in military/paramilitary command surrounds themselves with competent folks and gives them the authority and doesn't try to micromanage every time there is a toe stubbed...


I can't believe you actually put it that way?

as sheriff,.. if you had a murder at 10:30pm, you would go to bed.. my arse..

or a missing deputy?

two of them shot? one missing... yep it's bed time..

think about what you just said...

a consulate in flames and a dead Ambassador is not a stubbed toe..

or is it to you two?

What good would Obama or any President sitting there in his office for hours do?

It wasn’t until hours later that the body of Ambassador Chris Stevens was found

Like the article said-- it was hours before they found out what had happened- and that is when he needs to be brought up do date...

Nope- a President/Administrator micromanaging a situation from thousands of miles away is not what I want to see...The local commanders and the guys on the scene, while backed with whatever assistance they can get, should be left to call the shots....

And believe it or not- there are lots more things going on in the country and the world than just Libya....
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
:roll: OMG-- like I said before- you must have never been in a position of leadership where you've had multiple issues occurring... What is Obama going to do from thousands of miles away that those in local command can't do... :???:
Do you really believe that he should start micromanaging every military operation?

Sorry- but I learned a long time ago a good commander/administrator in military/paramilitary command surrounds themselves with competent folks and gives them the authority and doesn't try to micromanage every time there is a toe stubbed...


I can't believe you actually put it that way?

as sheriff,.. if you had a murder at 10:30pm, you would go to bed.. my arse..

or a missing deputy?

two of them shot? one missing... yep it's bed time..

think about what you just said...

a consulate in flames and a dead Ambassador is not a stubbed toe..

or is it to you two?

What good would Obama or any President sitting there in his office for hours do?

It wasn’t until hours later that the body of Ambassador Chris Stevens was found

Like the article said-- it was hours before they found out what had happened- and that is when he needs to be brought up do date...

Nope- a President/Administrator micromanaging a situation from thousands of miles away is not what I want to see...The local commanders and the guys on the scene, while backed with whatever assistance they can get, should be left to call the shots....

And believe it or not- there are lots more things going on in the country and the world than just Libya....

Even though obama laughs at how easily you guys fall for his crap, he still loves the feel of your nose up his azz. You guys are pathetic and coldhearted btards
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
:roll: OMG-- like I said before- you must have never been in a position of leadership where you've had multiple issues occurring... What is Obama going to do from thousands of miles away that those in local command can't do... :???:
Do you really believe that he should start micromanaging every military operation?

Sorry- but I learned a long time ago a good commander/administrator in military/paramilitary command surrounds themselves with competent folks and gives them the authority and doesn't try to micromanage every time there is a toe stubbed...


I can't believe you actually put it that way?

as sheriff,.. if you had a murder at 10:30pm, you would go to bed.. my arse..

or a missing deputy?

two of them shot? one missing... yep it's bed time..

think about what you just said...

a consulate in flames and a dead Ambassador is not a stubbed toe..

or is it to you two?

What good would Obama or any President sitting there in his office for hours do?

It wasn’t until hours later that the body of Ambassador Chris Stevens was found

Like the article said-- it was hours before they found out what had happened- and that is when he needs to be brought up do date...

Nope- a President/Administrator micromanaging a situation from thousands of miles away is not what I want to see...The local commanders and the guys on the scene, while backed with whatever assistance they can get, should be left to call the shots....

And believe it or not- there are lots more things going on in the country and the world than just Libya....



He was probably sleeping or golfing, when he got the warning 2 days earlier that the embassy was going to be hit by the militias, that he armed, too.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Jefferson, probably didn't sleep until it was over.


"Immediately prior to Jefferson's inauguration in 1801, Congress passed naval legislation that, among other things, provided for six frigates that 'shall be officered and manned as the President of the United States may direct.' … In the event of a declaration of war on the United States by the Barbary powers, these ships were to 'protect our commerce & chastise their insolence — by sinking, burning or destroying their ships & Vessels wherever you shall find them.'"[22] On Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, Yusuf Karamanli, the Pasha (or Bashaw) of Tripoli, demanded $225,000 from the new administration. (In 1800, Federal revenues totaled a little over $10 million.) Putting his long-held beliefs into practice, Jefferson refused the demand. Consequently, on May 10, 1801, the Pasha declared war on the U.S., not through any formal written documents but in the customary Barbary manner of cutting down the flagstaff in front of the U.S. Consulate.[23] Algiers and Tunis did not follow their ally in Tripoli.

In response, "Jefferson sent a small force to the area to protect American ships and citizens against potential aggression, but insisted that he was 'unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense.'" He told Congress: "I communicate [to you] all material information on this subject, that in the exercise of this important function confided by the Constitution to the Legislature exclusively their judgment may form itself on a knowledge and consideration of every circumstance of weight."[22] Although Congress never voted on a formal declaration of war, they did authorize the President to instruct the commanders of armed American vessels to seize all vessels and goods of the Pasha of Tripoli "and also to cause to be done all such other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war will justify."
Enterprise capturing Tripoli

The schooner USS Enterprise defeated the 14-gun Tripolitan corsair Tripoli after a fierce but one-sided battle on August 1, 1801.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
 

Steve

Well-known member
OT it is not everyday we have a consulate burning... sure it is common now,.. but before Obama screwed this up.. it wasn't common.. let alone an ambassador missing and presumed dead..

if we can't expect a little compassion and diligence in a crises from a president,.. then why have him..

Obama has proven over and over he is worthless and unneeded..

heck you even think it is better if he sleeps as our embassies are burned..

We do not need a figurehead puppet,.. but a real leader.. and one who is awake when a crises unfolds..


Like the article said-- it was hours before they found out what had happened- and that is when he needs to be brought up do date...

no point updating Obama,.. he was sleeping.. must have taken a bit of coke for the stubbed toe.. :???:
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Steve said:
OT it is not everyday we have a consulate burning... sure it is common now,.. but before Obama screwed this up.. it wasn't common.. let alone an ambassador missing and presumed dead..

if we can't expect a little compassion and diligence in a crises from a president,.. then why have him..

Obama has proven over and over he is worthless and unneeded..

heck you even think it is better if he sleeps as our embassies are burned..

We do not need a figurehead puppet,.. but a real leader.. and one who is awake when a crises unfolds..


Like the article said-- it was hours before they found out what had happened- and that is when he needs to be brought up do date...

no point updating Obama,.. he was sleeping.. must have taken a bit of coke for the stubbed toe.. :???:


a week after the incident, obama wwas still blaming some video. It wasn't until abbout 12 days after that he determined it was a terrorist attack.

something we all knew within hours, cause we weren't "sleeping", or stoned on coke.
 
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Steve said:
OT it is not everyday we have a consulate burning... sure it is common now,.. but before Obama screwed this up.. it wasn't common.. let alone an ambassador missing and presumed dead..

if we can't expect a little compassion and diligence in a crises from a president,.. then why have him..

Obama has proven over and over he is worthless and unneeded..

heck you even think it is better if he sleeps as our embassies are burned..

We do not need a figurehead puppet,.. but a real leader.. and one who is awake when a crises unfolds..


Like the article said-- it was hours before they found out what had happened- and that is when he needs to be brought up do date...

no point updating Obama,.. he was sleeping.. must have taken a bit of coke for the stubbed toe.. :???:

Like they used to say in Command School classes- when you do need to make a decision or take an action its better to have a clear mind and be rested-- rather than being dreary and foggy minded and tired from not getting any rest....
Sitting there waiting for the news of what had happened would have helped in no way....
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
OT it is not everyday we have a consulate burning... sure it is common now,.. but before Obama screwed this up.. it wasn't common.. let alone an ambassador missing and presumed dead..

if we can't expect a little compassion and diligence in a crises from a president,.. then why have him..

Obama has proven over and over he is worthless and unneeded..

heck you even think it is better if he sleeps as our embassies are burned..

We do not need a figurehead puppet,.. but a real leader.. and one who is awake when a crises unfolds..


Like the article said-- it was hours before they found out what had happened- and that is when he needs to be brought up do date...

no point updating Obama,.. he was sleeping.. must have taken a bit of coke for the stubbed toe.. :???:

Like they used to say in Command School classes- when you do need to make a decision or take an action its better to have a clear mind and be rested-- rather than being dreary and foggy minded and tired from not getting any rest....
Sitting there waiting for the news of what had happened would have helped in no way....



so all the campaigning, and golf, was making him tired, when he got the 3am call? :lol:
 

Tam

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
Oldtimer said:
:roll: OMG-- like I said before- you must have never been in a position of leadership where you've had multiple issues occurring... What is Obama going to do from thousands of miles away that those in local command can't do... :???:
Do you really believe that he should start micromanaging every military operation?

Sorry- but I learned a long time ago a good commander/administrator in military/paramilitary command surrounds themselves with competent folks and gives them the authority and doesn't try to micromanage every time there is a toe stubbed...


I can't believe you actually put it that way?

as sheriff,.. if you had a murder at 10:30pm, you would go to bed.. my arse..

or a missing deputy?

two of them shot? one missing... yep it's bed time..

think about what you just said...

a consulate in flames and a dead Ambassador is not a stubbed toe..

or is it to you two?

What good would Obama or any President sitting there in his office for hours do?

It wasn’t until hours later that the body of Ambassador Chris Stevens was found

Like the article said-- it was hours before they found out what had happened- and that is when he needs to be brought up do date...

Nope- a President/Administrator micromanaging a situation from thousands of miles away is not what I want to see...The local commanders and the guys on the scene, while backed with whatever assistance they can get, should be left to call the shots....

And believe it or not- there are lots more things going on in the country and the world than just Libya....

No what you want to see is your President cancel his National Security Briefing the morning the Ambassador's body was reported found and he was dead, hop on a plane and fly to Vegas for a fund raiser and that is exactly what you got. To bad the rest of us would like to see Obama actually behaving like a Commandor and Chief that cares about his citizens more than he does his campaign cash flow problems..

ANd it is nice to see that all those things you claim were happening in the US never interfered with Obama Fund raising Schedule either. I would hate to see him miss being on Letterman and rubbing elbows with the 1%ers he like to demonize until he needs their campaign donations. :mad:

He is the friggin President in charge of keeping the US safe from Terrorist Attacks it is time he starts acting like it and stop the golfing and late night TV gigs and start attending his intel briefings IN PERSON so he actually knows what is going on and can stop lieing to the World about that d*mn 13 minute You tube video. . :mad: He looks like an idiot and so do you for defending his actions when American lives are at stake. :roll:
 

ranch hand

Well-known member
And believe it or not- there are lots more things going on in the country and the world than just Libya....

Yes OT there were lots more things going on than just Deaths in Libya, there was a fund raiser with his hollywood friends in Vegas to attend. Did you ever watch him when he struts out waving, or his jog up the stairs? He acts like he is on his way to get an Emmy or Grammy! What a joke and disrespect he give the highest office of United States
 

Larrry

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
OT it is not everyday we have a consulate burning... sure it is common now,.. but before Obama screwed this up.. it wasn't common.. let alone an ambassador missing and presumed dead..

if we can't expect a little compassion and diligence in a crises from a president,.. then why have him..

Obama has proven over and over he is worthless and unneeded..

heck you even think it is better if he sleeps as our embassies are burned..

We do not need a figurehead puppet,.. but a real leader.. and one who is awake when a crises unfolds..


Like the article said-- it was hours before they found out what had happened- and that is when he needs to be brought up do date...

no point updating Obama,.. he was sleeping.. must have taken a bit of coke for the stubbed toe.. :???:

Like they used to say in Command School classes- when you do need to make a decision or take an action its better to have a clear mind and be rested-- rather than being dreary and foggy minded and tired from not getting any rest....
Sitting there waiting for the news of what had happened would have helped in no way....

You are wrong again. It is not as if a crisis was going to happen. It was happening at that moment. If the guy can not make a rational decision after that long he doesn't have any business being prez.

If it was your son who was the ambassador, would you feel the same way?
 

Twister Frost

Well-known member
Larrry said:
Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
OT it is not everyday we have a consulate burning... sure it is common now,.. but before Obama screwed this up.. it wasn't common.. let alone an ambassador missing and presumed dead..

if we can't expect a little compassion and diligence in a crises from a president,.. then why have him..

Obama has proven over and over he is worthless and unneeded..

heck you even think it is better if he sleeps as our embassies are burned..

We do not need a figurehead puppet,.. but a real leader.. and one who is awake when a crises unfolds..




no point updating Obama,.. he was sleeping.. must have taken a bit of coke for the stubbed toe.. :???:

Like they used to say in Command School classes- when you do need to make a decision or take an action its better to have a clear mind and be rested-- rather than being dreary and foggy minded and tired from not getting any rest....
Sitting there waiting for the news of what had happened would have helped in no way....

You are wrong again. It is not as if a crisis was going to happen. It was happening at that moment. If the guy can not make a rational decision after that long he doesn't have any business being prez.

If it was your son who was the ambassador, would you feel the same way?

My guess is there was a family somewhere who couldn't fall asleep because of worry. I understand he had an important fundraiser to attend the next day, but this is probably one of those times that he should have wanted to give the semblance that he cared. On a side note, have you readers noticed what being President does for the looks of the men elected? They age twenty years in four---not President Obama---comparatively, his picture from 2008 looks pretty similar to 2012. Maybe the stress is not so tough for him because he is getting plenty of sleep!
 
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Twister Frost said:
Larrry said:
Oldtimer said:
Like they used to say in Command School classes- when you do need to make a decision or take an action its better to have a clear mind and be rested-- rather than being dreary and foggy minded and tired from not getting any rest....
Sitting there waiting for the news of what had happened would have helped in no way....

You are wrong again. It is not as if a crisis was going to happen. It was happening at that moment. If the guy can not make a rational decision after that long he doesn't have any business being prez.

If it was your son who was the ambassador, would you feel the same way?

My guess is there was a family somewhere who couldn't fall asleep because of worry. I understand he had an important fundraiser to attend the next day, but this is probably one of those times that he should have wanted to give the semblance that he cared. On a side note, have you readers noticed what being President does for the looks of the men elected? They age twenty years in four---not President Obama---comparatively, his picture from 2008 looks pretty similar to 2012. Maybe the stress is not so tough for him because he is getting plenty of sleep!

This is comical because just the other morning while having breakfast at the coffee shop Obama was on tv- and everyone commented about how much he had aged and how grey his hair had gotten since he first was elected- and how much being President ages all of them..

But this again just shows that there is nothing President Obama could have done that would have pleased any of the R cult followers...The best example is when he went away from the liberal single payer Canadian style health insurance plan-- and instead went with/backed the "mandate plan" promoted since the 70's by the Repbulicans/Conservatives--- and immediately since Obama liked/backed it-- the R cult decided that now they hated it, had to oppose it, and now miraculously it was unconstitutional.... :roll:

Then he fulfilled the mission GW failed on and killed scores of Al Quaeda leaders and Osama Bin Laden -- and immediately the R culters were finding fault in how he did it...
:roll: :p :lol: :(

But its not surprising after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said his one and only objective in Congress was to make sure Obama was a one-term president. It seems as if some members of Congress have made it their goal not to work with the president, to make sure he fails, and to do just that by any means necessary...They care little if the average citizens suffer for it- or if the whole country's economy goes under...


This is a question put on FB this morning:

I see all these statements made that we need " to take out country back"... I have 2 questions: #1...Back from whom? and #2 name ONE thing that you CAN NOT do today that you could do on Jan 19th...the day before Obama became President. Just one thing you are now denied due to his presence in the White House.......

And altho many people responded- NO one had even on thing that you can't do today that you could before Obama was sworn in...
 

Twister Frost

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Twister Frost said:
My guess is there was a family somewhere who couldn't fall asleep because of worry. I understand he had an important fundraiser to attend the next day, but this is probably one of those times that he should have wanted to give the semblance that he cared. On a side note, have you readers noticed what being President does for the looks of the men elected? They age twenty years in four---not President Obama---comparatively, his picture from 2008 looks pretty similar to 2012. Maybe the stress is not so tough for him because he is getting plenty of sleep!

This is comical because just the other morning while having breakfast at the coffee shop Obama was on tv- and everyone commented about how much he had aged and how grey his hair had gotten since he first was elected- and how much being President ages all of them..

But this again just shows that there is nothing President Obama could have done that would have pleased any of the R cult followers...The best example is when he went away from the liberal single payer Canadian style health insurance plan-- and instead went with/backed the "mandate plan" promoted since the 70's by the Repbulicans/Conservatives--- and immediately since Obama liked/backed it-- the R cult decided that now they hated it, had to oppose it, and now miraculously it was unconstitutional.... :roll:

Then he fulfilled the mission GW failed on and killed scores of Al Quaeda leaders and Osama Bin Laden -- and immediately the R culters were finding fault in how he did it...
:roll: :p :lol: :(

But its not surprising after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said his one and only objective in Congress was to make sure Obama was a one-term president. It seems as if some members of Congress have made it their goal not to work with the president, to make sure he fails, and to do just that by any means necessary...They care little if the average citizens suffer for it- or if the whole country's economy goes under...


This is a question put on FB this morning:

I see all these statements made that we need " to take out country back"... I have 2 questions: #1...Back from whom? and #2 name ONE thing that you CAN NOT do today that you could do on Jan 19th...the day before Obama became President. Just one thing you are now denied due to his presence in the White House.......

And altho many people responded- NO one had even on thing that you can't do today that you could before Obama was sworn in...

Bogus, Oldtimer, take a look at these photos---

2012:
http://www.bet.com/news/features/vote-2012/news/politics/2012/09/05/clinton-boosts-obama-in-rousing-convention-speech/_jcr_content/featuredMedia/newsitemimage.newsimage.dimg/090612-politics-dnc-2012-bill-clinton-obama-4.jpg

2008: http://s65605.gridserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gore_obama11.jpg

And you can bring up all the other stuff Republicans supposedly dislike about the man and call us cult followers--but where are you on him going to bed when one of our own has fallen into the hands of extremists and terrorists? That is what this post was about--stay on this topic and start another one for the other gunk. I hold by the idea that he looks better than any previous presidential leader (that I can remember) after four years at the helm. Maybe he uses Just For Men and cucumber facials--who knows---
 
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