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Another Canuck BSE Case

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Anonymous

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Whats this now- an even dozen? Another POST feed ban cow-- And this like several of the others would probably be exportable to the US under USDA's proposed Rule 2- and their magic date.... :roll: :( :mad: :mad:

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5/2/2007 3:20:00 PM


Cattle Alert: BSE Case Confirmed In British Columbia

OTTAWA, May 2, 2007 - The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) has confirmed the diagnosis of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in a mature dairy cow from British Columbia. The animal's carcass is under CFIA control, and no part of it entered the human food or animal feed systems.

Preliminary information indicates that the age of the animal (66 months) falls well within the age range of previous cases detected in Canada and is consistent with the recognized average incubation period of the disease. This signifies that the animal was exposed to a very small amount of infective material, most likely during its first year of life.

An epidemiological investigation directed by international guidelines is underway to identify the animal’s herdmates at the time of birth and the pathways by which it might have become infected. All findings will be publicly released once the investigation concludes.

Canada has a suite of robust BSE control measures which exceeds the recommended international standards. Assessment of Canada’s programs by the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) has resulted in a recommendation for recognition as a controlled risk country. The OIE categorization process is based on an evaluation of the comprehensive set of risk mitigation measures implemented by a given country.

Canada has taken all necessary measures to achieve the eventual elimination of BSE from the national cattle herd. The enhanced feed ban, which comes into effect on July 12, 2007, will prevent more than 99 percent of potential BSE infectivity from entering the Canadian feed system. The CFIA expects to detect a small number of cases over the next 10 years as Canada progresses towards its goal of eliminating the disease from the national cattle heard.

The British Columbia animal was identified at the farm level by the national surveillance program, which has detected all cases found in Canada. The program targets cattle most at risk and has tested about 160,000 animals since 2003. The surveillance results reflect an extremely low incidence of BSE in Canada.

It is not unexpected to find BSE-infected animals born after the feed ban. This has proven to be the case in most other countries with targeted surveillance programs, similar to that in Canada.
 

HAY MAKER

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I cant help but wonder how long this will go on,looks like about the time it settles a bit,another case pops up................good luck
 

HAY MAKER

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Another Canadian case of BSE born after feed ban
Wednesday, May 2, 2007, 5:22 PM

by Peter Shinn

Canada found its tenth case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) within its borders Wednesday. This latest one, like several before it, was also born after that country implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feeding ban.

According to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA), the latest BSE-positive animal is a dairy cow in British Columbia that was born 66 months ago. That puts its date of birth in or near November of 2001. Canada implemented its feed ban, which when effectively administered, prevents the transmission of BSE, in August of 1997.

A rule pending final approval by USDA would allow all Canadian cattle born after March of 1999, 18 months after Canada implemented its feed ban, into the country on an essentially unrestricted basis. When Dr. John Clifford, the top veterinarian for USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) announced that proposed final rule earlier this year, he conceded the March, 1999 date had been a "back of the envelope" calculation that surmised an 18-month window would be sufficient to allow Canada's feed ban to take effect.

America's first case of BSE involved an older dairy cow in Washington State that had been imported from Canada. USDA has since found two other native born cases, both involving animals born before the U.S. implemented its own ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban.

Still, the CFIA in its press release Wednesday said Canadian officials were not concerned that fresh BSE cases continue to involve Canadian cattle born after their feed ban went into place, suggesting such cases are "not unexpected" and noting similar cases have been found in other countries with BSE as well. At the same time, the CFIA release notes rules substantially strengthening Canada's ruminant-to-ruminant feed ban are slated to take effect in July.
 

PORKER

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Preliminary information indicates that the age of the animal (66 months) falls well within the age range of previous cases detected in Canada and is consistent with the recognized average incubation period of the disease. This signifies that the animal was exposed to a very small amount of infective material, most likely during its first year of life.

Let's see,Nov.01/2001 born Date ! WHO was selling BSE FEED in 2002 and 2003 in Canada? Unless the dam passed the BSE at Birth or the Milk replacer Had BSE in It !
 
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A rule pending final approval by USDA would allow all Canadian cattle born after March of 1999, 18 months after Canada implemented its feed ban, into the country on an essentially unrestricted basis. When Dr. John Clifford, the top veterinarian for USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) announced that proposed final rule earlier this year, he conceded the March, 1999 date had been a "back of the envelope" calculation that surmised an 18-month window would be sufficient to allow Canada's feed ban to take effect.


I think those boys better dig out another envelope and do a little more surmising :shock: :roll: :wink: :lol: If my figures are right this animal was born in about 2002--and about 3 years past this magic "surmised" date... :roll: :mad: :mad:

Their whole rule is one big Joke.....
 

Kathy

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The whole BSE "infectious theory" is "a big joke", and ALL beef producers and those who support and supply our industry, as well as those that survive off the money ranchers spend - are the fall guys!

I am surprised that while UK feed companies are making bold statements within their news letters that the SC-GUT project and other research documents are beginning to shed light on findings that "prions might not be the correct explanation for TSE"...., Canada and the USA still battle over border rules and SRMs.

When will the industry get it through their head that the "generally believed theory" doesn't add up.

When will the industry support looking at the "other" theories out there that could help identify the true cause(s) of these disorders and lead us out of this mess, while some of us are still in the business.

General trends under the "infectious prion" theory will eventually lead to the complete elimination of the industry as we know it today, and cattle will be "developed/grown" in a laboratory (or worse, meat protein will be grown in a petrie dish),.. Well, it won't be quite the same as meat - but close enough for Monsanto and Hematech...

Where was the cow born and raised? The environmental factors might be the only clue to what caused its illness.
 

Kathy

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Remember the article/link which I posted earlier, "BC Ranchers Revolt"
which indicated that areas of BC are higher in naturally occurring radioactive material (NORMs) than others. When a small, one-man mining operation dig some digging around on one BC rancher's place, some of his cattle became sick and died (or were put down).

Interesting articles from "The Tyee" an online news paper.

Link: http://thetyee.ca/News/2007/03/30/RanchRevolt/

Link: http://thetyee.ca/News/2007/01/04/Falkoski/

Here's the first part of this article on Joe Falkoski of BC. The article is 9 pages long and very worth reading. Mr. Falkoski lost cattle from various exposures to the mine tailings and activities. Who will be next?


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Joe Falkoski says he's being forced by bad laws to allow toxic mining on his land. A special report.

By Kendyl Salcito
Published: January 4, 2007
TheTyee.ca
What do you do if you are a rancher told by a company -- and then the courts -- that there is nothing you can do to stop your rangeland from being dug up and further strewn with radiation?

If you are Joe Falkoski, you refuse to take no for an answer.

The Kettle Valley rancher fears mining for barite in radioactive soil on his property is a threat to his land, his livestock and the health of people in his community. He lost his latest court battle in September, but vows not to give up a fight that concerns many citizens across B.C.'s southern interior.

Falkoski believes the court ruling and provincial mining laws essentially require him to go into partnership with a venture-capital mining company that has already damaged his property and failed to repair it.

The dispute is just one of many to arise since the provincial government relaxed policies and regulations to promote the development of subsurface mineral, oil and gas claims on otherwise private land.

Zena Capital Corp. believes it is entitled to enter the land, since the Mines Ministry's Mediation and Arbitration Board gave it the go-ahead in February of this year.

Falkoski rejected the arbitration board's ruling, insisting that he was given no opportunity to air his concerns in either mediation or arbitration hearings.

He wanted no responsibility for any of the mining activities taking place on his property, so he rejected settlement money awarded following the hearing. "They can do what they want, but I won't have any part of it. I won't accept their money -- I refuse to be held complicit in their liability and responsibility."

Falkoski, 80, is fuming about the way the provincial government has dealt with his dilemma. Drawn out discussions and tribunal hearings through the mines ministry have failed to protect his now radioactive and barren rangeland.

Falkoski believes his experience with government officials reflects a Ministry of Energy, Mines and Petroleum that is unable to effectively manage the industry it governs.

What's more, he believes the regulations fail to fairly protect the rights of private landowners and the public's health.

It's a complex story that now involves citizens throughout the Kettle, Similkameen and Okanagan valleys who dread the growing exploration and mining in an area rich with radioactive minerals.


Where was the BC - BSE cow found again?

Here's some more from the article:

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Radiation present

At that point MacLean had done no radiation testing at all, even though the Kettle River area is known for its high presence of radon, a radioactive gas linked to lung cancer, emphysema and other respiratory diseases. The dirt is laced with uranium and thorium, which release radon at elevated rates compared to most places, about five times the exposure recommended by Health Canada. Falkoski suspected that debris from the work had even higher radiation levels than the surrounding ground. He asked MacLean to test -- a request that MacLean denies fulfilling.

When MacLean started shaving off the tops of knolls without asking, Falkoski says, he lost patience and turned to the Mines Ministry for help.

Meanwhile, the hazardous minerals piled higher and the six-inch-wide, 60-foot-deep holes throughout Falkoski's cattle range remained unreclaimed. Spring rains filled sumps that MacLean left unfilled and cattle drank from them.

Then, Falkoski says, three cattle fell ill. They all died the next winter. "I've never had an animal get sick and die on my land, except after these drill cuttings were left out over the winter," he said. The cuttings that MacLean had left on the property contained silica sediment and uranium -- both dangerous when they contaminate drinking water. Two more cattle were crippled when they fell into uncovered drill holes. When they failed to recover, they were both shot.


You'll have to read the whole article to get "the rest of the story"......

Where these BC BSE cases are found is extremely important information and should be made public.
 
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Canada mad cow case delays Mexico import plans
Fri 16 Feb 2007 3:06 PM ET


MEXICO CITY, Feb 16 (Reuters) - Mexico has postponed plans to reopen its borders to dairy cattle imports from Canada after a case of mad cow disease was found in an Alberta bull last week.

Enrique Sanchez, Mexico's head of animal health, told Reuters on Friday that Mexico would carry out new tests before considering allowing Canadian dairy cow imports.

"This means we have to go back and revise everything again," Sanchez said. "We were three months away from starting trade with Canada, but this is going to take one or two years, we don't know."

Mexico stopped importing beef and cattle from Canada following an outbreak of bovine spongiform encephalopathy in 2003.

It has since restarted imports of most beef and cattle products, and in December officials said dairy imports would be restarted soon.

Sanchez said one more case of mad cow disease in Canada would be enough for Mexico to close the two countries' beef and cattle trade once again.


I wonder what Mexico's response will be now :???: Getting bad when Mexico takes the safety of their herd, producers, and consumers higher than the US (USDA) does :shock:
 

Manitoba_Rancher

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oldtimer you like to whine and complain about how many cases Canada has found. Tell me this is it better to find them or to ignore them and hope they go away?
 
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Manitoba_Rancher said:
oldtimer you like to whine and complain about how many cases Canada has found. Tell me this is it better to find them or to ignore them and hope they go away?

How many infected ones are you not finding that are going to slaughter not yet displaying any signs or symptoms...And are now in your foodchain- since Canada refuses to test all....

Some of us south of the border would just as soon not have that added risk to our herds and consumers.... And without M-COOL the consumer can't even make an informed choice......
 

TimH

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Manitoba_Rancher said:
oldtimer you like to whine and complain about how many cases Canada has found. Tell me this is it better to find them or to ignore them and hope they go away?

Hey Chris, Quit pickin' on Oldtimer. From what I hear, he's to cheap to buy Viagra. Every time our surveilance testing finds a BSE positive, it is an "uplifting" experience for the poor old coot...... 10 or 12 times, since 2003 is better than none.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Silver

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Oldtimer said:
Manitoba_Rancher said:
oldtimer you like to whine and complain about how many cases Canada has found. Tell me this is it better to find them or to ignore them and hope they go away?

How many infected ones are you not finding that are going to slaughter not yet displaying any signs or symptoms...And are now in your foodchain- since Canada refuses to test all....

Some of us south of the border would just as soon not have that added risk to our herds and consumers.... And without M-COOL the consumer can't even make an informed choice......

How many infected ones are WE not finding??? Are you serious? How about your inept system? Shouldn't you be looking at us and saying "Holy crap, obviously our system is not working and never has, we better get on it. And we better quit eating american beef."
One would have to be a complete moron (ie: Oldtimer) to believe the US has any lower rate of infectivity than does Canada. So why don't you get off yer butt and fix your problem? Too easy to stick your head in the sand whilst pointing your finger north?
 

RobertMac

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I think Kathy is headed in the right direction. The feed ban may be effective in limiting the spread of BSE, but is probably not effective in solving the cause. If there are other factors causing the Canadian BSE, that would help explain the post feed ban Canadian cases and explain why there have not been the same findings in the USA. There was a reason for the massive outbreak in England.
 

Ben Roberts

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I have said, from the first BSE case in Canada, why aren't NCBA, R-CALF,NFU and any other so called cattlemen's organizations in this country, going to Canada and helping solve this issue, before it destroys consumer confidence in our product in North America and the rest of the world. A few years ago there was a report that came out of the UK, that linked BSE to a pour-on product, that report had some merit, now you never hear anything about that anymore. Producers, world-wide need to work together, to end this issue, clearly our governments are doing more, in the area of damage control for the multi-nationals than for the cattle producers.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts
 
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You're definitely right Ben- and the governments and USDA should be listening to the advice of the independent scientists (like the MacDonalds formed group- or the USDA formed TSE's study commission that formed the original BSE Rules)- but they're not...And they should be allowing companies in both Canada and the US that want to test to be allowed to--but they're not...

The multinationals control the food/meat industry so much now that their is no oversight/science except that that the multinationals want provided...The chinese import melamine incident just amplifys how bad it is...... :( :(
 

Sandhusker

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Ben Roberts said:
I have said, from the first BSE case in Canada, why aren't NCBA, R-CALF,NFU and any other so called cattlemen's organizations in this country, going to Canada and helping solve this issue, before it destroys consumer confidence in our product in North America and the rest of the world. A few years ago there was a report that came out of the UK, that linked BSE to a pour-on product, that report had some merit, now you never hear anything about that anymore. Producers, world-wide need to work together, to end this issue, clearly our governments are doing more, in the area of damage control for the multi-nationals than for the cattle producers.

Best Regards
Ben Roberts

BSE tester tells the story that the company he is involved with has come up with a live test that they feel is the real deal. They went to the CFIA and USDA and couldn't get the time of day. Looking at that example, I don't know what any cattleman's organization could do.
 
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Another Canadian case of BSE born after feed ban
Wednesday, May 2, 2007, 5:22 PM

by Peter Shinn

Canada found its tenth case of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) within its borders Wednesday. This latest one, like several before it, was also born after that country implemented a ruminant-to-ruminant feeding ban.

According to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA), the latest BSE-positive animal is a dairy cow in British Columbia that was born 66 months ago. That puts its date of birth in or near November of 2001. Canada implemented its feed ban, which when effectively administered, prevents the transmission of BSE, in August of 1997.

A rule pending final approval by USDA would allow all Canadian cattle born after March of 1999, 18 months after Canada implemented its feed ban, into the country on an essentially unrestricted basis. When Dr. John Clifford, the top veterinarian for USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) announced that proposed final rule earlier this year, he conceded the March, 1999 date had been a "back of the envelope" calculation that surmised an 18-month window would be sufficient to allow Canada's feed ban to take effect.

This news article best shows the idiocracy of USDA's Rule 2 proposal-- and I think we all should make sure our Senators and Congressmen get a copy of it to keep them informed... I e-mailed mine a copy last night- maybe if their e-mails are flooded with the info they'll start to understand the stupidity of the rule too...Especially now when the laxity of our import oversight is so much in question with the grain/dog food etal....
 

Kathy

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Mark Purdey was the person who identified the connection between the pour-on insecticides and the emergence of BSE.

He has 14 peer-reviewed papers, and this one is on-line at his webpage:
www.markpurdey.com also, www.purdeyenvironment.com

Mark passed away from a brain tumor last November 12, 2006. We must continue on with his research, and that of others who have come to similar conclusions.

http://www.markpurdey.com/science_the_origins_of_bse.htm

THE MANGANESE LOADED/COPPER DEPLETED BOVINE BRAIN FAILS TO NEUTRALISE INCOMING SHOCK BURSTS OF LOW FREQUENCY INFRASOUND

This 2006 paper comes to a similar conclusion, that once the copper is replaced on the healthy prion protein with another metal, like manganese, it changes its shape and forms an "unhealthy" and nonfunctional prion protein.

With exposure to UV energy (which is just part of the Electromagnetic field spectrum) - the manganese loaded prion proteins became "protease-resistant" and tested "positive" on a western blot BSE test.



Neurotoxicology. 2006 May;27(3):437-44. Epub 2006 Feb 14.

Free radical generation of protease-resistant prion after substitution of manganese for copper in bovine brain homogenate.

Deloncle R, Guillard O, Bind JL, Delaval J, Fleury N, Mauco G, Lesage G.
Universite Francois Rabelais de Tours, Bio-Inorganic Chemistry Laboratory, Faculty of Pharmacy, 31 Avenue Monge, 37200 Tours, France. [email protected]

The exchange between copper and seven transition metals is studied in a bovine brain obex homogenate according to the redox status of the medium. In reductive conditions, almost all the studied metals can substitute for copper when it is in the reduced form Cu+. This substitution is reversible, since copper uptake as Cu++ is restored in an oxidizing medium but only Co++, Ni++ and Mn++, in this decreasing order, can substitute perfectly for copper in bovine brain homogenate. To study free radical effects on bovine brain proteins, at first a copper substitution was processed in order to inhibit superoxide dismutase-like protective properties against free radicals in copper metalloproteins. Manganese was selected since a brain copper decrease correlated with a manganese increase is well-known in transmissible spongiform encephalopathies. Results for bovine brain homogenate, initially negative in the Western blot Prionics test, indicate that the substitution of manganese for copper in a reducing medium and exposure to UVA-induced free radicals produce proteinase K resistant prion. These findings suggest that an impairment in brain metal homeostasis leading to oxidative abnormalities may be involved in transmissible spongiform encephalopathies.

PMID: 16481041

Dr. David R. Brown of Bath University in the UK, has a long history of working on free radical damage to the brain, TSEs, and is presently funded to identify the normal function of the healthy prion protein.

A review of Dr. D.R. Brown's research is in order:

eg: Elevated Manganese Levels in Blood and CNS Occur Prior to Onset of Clinical Signs in Scrapie and BSE.
Hesketh S, Sassoon J, Knight R, Hopkins J, Brown DR.
J Anim Sci. 2007 Feb 12; PMID: 17296770


Neurodegeneration and oxidative stress: prion disease results from loss of antioxidant defence. author DR Brown
Folia Neuropathol. 2005;43(4):229-43. Review.
PMID: 16416388
Available on line, and a good place to start:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Neurodegeneration+and+oxidative+stress:+prion+disease+results+from+loss+of+antioxidant+defence&hl=en&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2005-18,RNWE:en&um=1&oi=scholart
 
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