when i found out the panel wasn't in the health bill.. I wondered where did the idea (or rumor) come from?
I quickly found the articles from Peter singe and Rahm Emmanuels' brother and their links to the president.. but the liberals said it wasn't in the health bill.. would they lie?
soon research found that it wasn't in the health care bills being considered.. but in the stimulus bill.... the one nobody was allowed to read..
and it is hidden under the title.. Comparative Effectiveness Research
their task basically is to find out what is cost effective treatment...
but it mg ht mean not getting a procedure if we are to old or already ill..
so don't worry Death panels are not in the health care bill... they were hidden in the stimulus bill.. that Obama hid from the public... Palin was right.. the idea of rationing care based on worth is downright evil.. to bad she wasn't smart enough to discover the real source of the death panel..
"Follow that? No “death panels” are proposed, just a committee that will determine which unfortunate sick citizens will “get chances that are attenuated.” Sorry, Grandma, the committee has voted to attenuate your chances…"
not only is he not transparent but he is hiding the truth by saying..
not only did the house of representatives pass the "Death Panel" it so did the senate and it was signed by the president...
http://www.examiner.com/x-3747-Louisville-City-Hall-Examiner~y2009m8d13-The-truth-about-Obamas-death-panel
But, wait. Filtering out the characterizations, personal attacks, and theories of motivation, one question remains: Is there any factual basis for Gov. Palin’s warning about “death panels?”
Prof. William A. Jacobson, of Cornell Law School, has penned an intriguing piece titled “An Inconvenient Truth About The ‘Death Panel,’” in which he calls the issue of allocating resources away from the elderly and infirm “the ethical elephant in the room.” He directs readers’ attention to the philosophy espoused by key Obama health care adviser Dr. Ezekial Emanuel (brother of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel), in his article "Principles for Allocation of Scarce Medical Interventions," published on January 31, 2009. A full copy is linked below. Read it; particularly the section beginning at page 6 of the link (page 428 in the original), at which Dr. Emanuel sets forth the principles of "The Complete Lives System."
I quickly found the articles from Peter singe and Rahm Emmanuels' brother and their links to the president.. but the liberals said it wasn't in the health bill.. would they lie?
soon research found that it wasn't in the health care bills being considered.. but in the stimulus bill.... the one nobody was allowed to read..
and it is hidden under the title.. Comparative Effectiveness Research
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 created the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research to coordinate comparative effectiveness research across the Federal government.
their task basically is to find out what is cost effective treatment...
but it mg ht mean not getting a procedure if we are to old or already ill..
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/16/health/policy/16health.htmlHow do drugs and “watchful waiting” compare with surgery as a treatment,...
As Congress translated the idea into legislation, it became a lightning rod for pharmaceutical and medical-device lobbyists, who fear the findings will be used by insurers or the government to deny coverage for more expensive treatments and, thus, to ration care.
In addition, Republican lawmakers and conservative commentators complained that the legislation would allow the federal government to intrude in a person’s health care by enforcing clinical guidelines and treatment protocols.
critics say the legislation could put the government in the middle of the doctor-patient relationship.
Bureaucrats “will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost-effective,”
Lawmakers and lobbyists agree that researchers should compare the clinical merits of different treatments. Whether they should also consider cost is hotly debated.
Representative Charles Boustany Jr., a Louisiana Republican who is a heart surgeon, said he worried that “federal bureaucrats will misuse this research to ration care, to deny life-saving treatments to seniors and disabled people.”
The House Appropriations Committee inadvertently stoked such concerns in a report accompanying its version of the economic recovery bill. It said that research comparing different treatments could “yield significant payoffs” because less effective, more expensive treatments “will no longer be prescribed.”
“Comparative effectiveness is a useful tool in the tool kit, but it’s not the answer to anything,” Mr. Witty said in an interview. “Other countries have fallen in love with the concept, then spent years figuring out how on earth to make it work.”
source the "liberal" New York Times.
so don't worry Death panels are not in the health care bill... they were hidden in the stimulus bill.. that Obama hid from the public... Palin was right.. the idea of rationing care based on worth is downright evil.. to bad she wasn't smart enough to discover the real source of the death panel..
"Follow that? No “death panels” are proposed, just a committee that will determine which unfortunate sick citizens will “get chances that are attenuated.” Sorry, Grandma, the committee has voted to attenuate your chances…"
Mrs. Wagner, 64, learned from her physician that her lung cancer, which had been in remission, had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the Oregon Health Plan refused to pay. What the Oregon Health Plan did agree to cover, however, were drugs for a physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost about $50. "It was horrible," Wagner told ABCNews.com. "I got a letter in the mail that basically said if you want to take the pills, we will help you get that from the doctor and we will stand there and watch you die. But we won't give you the medication to live."
not only is he not transparent but he is hiding the truth by saying..
‘The rumor that's been circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the House of Representatives voted for “death panels” that will basically pull the plug on grandma because we've decided that we don't--it's too expensive to let her live anymore. (Laughter.)’
not only did the house of representatives pass the "Death Panel" it so did the senate and it was signed by the president...
http://www.examiner.com/x-3747-Louisville-City-Hall-Examiner~y2009m8d13-The-truth-about-Obamas-death-panel