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P Joe

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Not to through gas on the fire, but look at the old days when the mom did stay home. We didn't have near as much trouble with kids acting the way they do these days.

I'm not saying it should be the women that stays home either, but one of the parents, Dad or Mom, needs to be spending more time with the kids and taking care of the household, or things will just spiral out of control. I don't think you can consistently have both parents working 50-60 hours a week and expect to have well mannered kids.

On the slavery thing, I DO NOT believe that I personally should be held liable for what happen 100 years ago. I never owned a slave, my grand dad never owned a slave, and to H E double hocky sticks with you if you think I should support the black family because some southeren hillbilly enslaved your grand parents. I was born into this world no better off than any body else, and I made a go of my life, just because some people don't doesn't mean it is my problem.

The weighted college exams, and the african american college fun, to me are just as much raciest as the KKK. I think Bill Cosby had a rant last year about it. The jist of it was this, Until black people quit using slavery as an excuse, they will always be enslaved. I'll look it up when I get a chance, but Bill was called raciest by the NAACP. Imagine that a black person raciest against the blacks :shock:
 

jigs

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reader, the problem with my views on the man/woman relationship is too many men abuse it, and the feminazi's see it as enslavement.
my wife and I are 50/50 partners on everything.she puts me in my place as often as I put her in her place. however we agree that there can be only ONE head. and that is the man.


I do believe that the kids in juvinal hall, the pregnant teenagers, and the gang bangers are a result of lack of a parent at home. Society has taught our young girls virginity is no big deal, just let everyone ride you, taught our young men that if you knock up a girl, it is her problem. this is all relative to men and women knowing their roles in life!


I think you see me as a king laying around while my servant wife runs my errands and feeds me grapes. that would be nice, but it is not how it works. as for my daughter, she has free will to go become what ever she wants. make a billion dollars. but once married, she hopefully will know that she was born to love honor and complete her man, and should she have children, those kids come before any job.
 
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P Joe said:
The weighted college exams, and the african american college fun, to me are just as much raciest as the KKK. I think Bill Cosby had a rant last year about it. The jist of it was this, Until black people quit using slavery as an excuse, they will always be enslaved. I'll look it up when I get a chance, but Bill was called raciest by the NAACP. Imagine that a black person raciest against the blacks :shock:

Give these Globalist Politicians that want to sell out America a few more years and we'll be the minority-- then we can take advantage of all these quotas and minority programs- :???: :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

jigs

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I agree that the ghettos are a lose lose situation. BUT if I made a white version of the NAACP or the Caucasian College Fund. I would be a racist !!!

we bend over backwards to help the minorities.....I think enough is enough. me, a black man and a black woman all go for the same job, all 3 equally qualified and experienced....black gal gets the job due to quotas. I call that bullshit.

all the reasons you stated for kids developing badly, I believe are a direct result of lack of parenting.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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reader (the Second) said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
reader (the Second) said:
If P Joe had said to Tam what he said to me, you would have let him have it.

Sounds like you too are overtired or overstressed. Or have a hidden agenda. Thanks for your kind words and Happy Holidays to you too.


Over tired and overstressed? That's the life of a rancher in these times i would have to say. Many forces at work to change our great way of life. One nice thing was to come on ranchers and visit with like minded people and discuss our industry . But again we have people with agendas come on here and try to push on us their veiws and values. When we push back they become offended. You don't have a standard .
If you don't like the company go look for a door.

So you're saying that if I tell Tam to lighten up and pull the tampon out, that's just fine and shows no disrespect. You would not be squeamish if someone spoke to Tam or a daughter of yours that way?

Who is being two-faced? I believe it is you.

I was not offended because anyone was pushing back on my views and values. I have had plenty of spirited debates on a wide range of topics and to some extent, I have an open mind to opposing views and have learned and changed some here. And hopefully some of my ideas have rubbed off too since North America is made up of both urban and rural folks and together we define our world.

If you don't like me slamming Tam on BSE, just come out and yell at me for that. Don't harbor a grudge silently and then come on to another forum and attack me. Better than that, why don't you join in the arguments on BSE and learn and listen?? Is she your attack dog on that subject?


reader i learned along time ago that Tam can take care of herself. You have used just as derogatory tems to other woman posters and did you Chastize Haymaker when he made almost the same comment about NR's little girls hockey team.

I wasn't defending Tam i was pointing out that on a thread on Bull session you got after her for a TYPO and then you defend K Rav that it's only the internet .
You preach how much better kosher is . Do you even know what makes it kosher. You dish the way of life that most on this board are living. We do the best we can for the animals in our care. That is whether we are cow calf or feedlot. healthy cattle are our only chance to make it is this buz.
I have no problem with people wanting to raise "Organic" ,"Natural" or Grassfed. It can be a matter of taste but for 99% of people getting fed is is the most important. If you yuppie's want to pay i hope someone is taking your money but other folks have to eat as well.

So you see I have put up with your ways for a long time on this board out of politeness and because of my general respect for women. You will find that in cattle country. As far as the debate on BSE I have been there done that with you.

Should i let Tam know you called her a "DOG". in you post? That's showing respect.
 

P Joe

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reader (the Second) said:
A kid who is the top student in a ghetto school and is clearly a hard worker is unlikely to be equal in skills with a kid who is the top student in a top public school in the suburbs and there's the rub. How do you compare these two kids when it comes to college admissions for instance?

That kid in the ghetto should have been held to the same standards and had the same tests as the one in the suburbs. But this isn't the case. They are held to a lower standard. They pass them when they do failing work, because they don't want to hurt their self-cofidence. They don't want to make things too hard for them to acheive because then they might quit and go back to a gang.

You can argue the point that the teachers are not as good as in the suburbs and they don't get paid as much. I won't disagree with that. But it is self inflicted. These people that live in the ghettos should break the cycle and start taking care of themselfs. Quit smoking and buying beer and fix up their houses and pay more taxes so their school district can afford better teaching.

Everyone should be measured the same, and if that leads to a school full of young white males, then so be it. Why should a black person who doesn't do as good on a test be accepted over the white male when the white male deserved it more? (I only use that as an example because it was most recently in the news)

And for the smut you hear and see now days, where does most of it come from? Look at 50 cent or Snop Dog. I don't hear that kind of crap coming from Keith Urban or Kenny Chessney? Look at the last thing that happen in the NBA. I don't think one person was white on either team. Look at the NFL. How many Brad Johnson's, Brett Farve's, or John Elway's got in trouble. It was the Dunte Culpepper's, Koran Robinson's, and Randy Moss's that create trouble. And these are the types of people my kids are suppose to look up too????

I am not a raciest, I know of a lot of good black people and have a few as friends, but just simple calling a spade a spade. Some where that cycle needs to break, and maybe if we start treating them as equals, as hard and as cruel you may think that to be, then they might start acting like equals.
 

aplusmnt

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jigs said:
I agree that the ghettos are a lose lose situation. BUT if I made a white version of the NAACP or the Caucasian College Fund. I would be a racist !!!

we bend over backwards to help the minorities.....I think enough is enough. me, a black man and a black woman all go for the same job, all 3 equally qualified and experienced....black gal gets the job due to quotas. I call that BS.

all the reasons you stated for kids developing badly, I believe are a direct result of lack of parenting.

If a person talks about the Stereo types of Black people such as lack of parenting it makes us racist.

But we can talk all day about how the stereo types such as being good in sports they are.

Blacks like to pick and choose which stereotypes they want to be known for.

All I can go by is what I see in person. I have two Black nephews they both have different dads and same mom and each dad has at least 3 kids by 3 different women. My nephew does bad in school and has no real direction. But then again his dad has not seen him probably 5 times in 10 years.
 

Texan

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:shock:

Hmmm...I'm sure I can't be the only one that's wondering about this. But it sure looks like old Texan is gonna have to be the asshole that does everybody's dirty work again...

aplusmnt said:
I have two Black nephews...
Should we assume these are F-1's or fullbloods? :lol:
 

jigs

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reader (the Second) said:
My half sister's half sister has a half sister who's half black. I kid you not. My step father was married 5 times


might wanna change your location from norther virginia, to west virginia. :lol: :shock:
 

P Joe

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jigs said:
reader (the Second) said:
My half sister's half sister has a half sister who's half black. I kid you not. My step father was married 5 times


might wanna change your location from norther virginia, to west virginia. :lol: :shock:

I had a hard time following that too. If it's your SISTER'S half sister, then wouldn she be considered your half SISTER too? I'm lost. :?
 

nonothing

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aplusmnt said:
jigs said:
I agree that the ghettos are a lose lose situation. BUT if I made a white version of the NAACP or the Caucasian College Fund. I would be a racist !!!

we bend over backwards to help the minorities.....I think enough is enough. me, a black man and a black woman all go for the same job, all 3 equally qualified and experienced....black gal gets the job due to quotas. I call that BS.

all the reasons you stated for kids developing badly, I believe are a direct result of lack of parenting.

If a person talks about the Stereo types of Black people such as lack of parenting it makes us racist.


But we can talk all day about how the stereo types such as being good in sports they are.

Blacks like to pick and choose which stereotypes they want to be known for.

All I can go by is what I see in person. I have two Black nephews they both have different dads and same mom and each dad has at least 3 kids by 3 different women. My nephew does bad in school and has no real direction. But then again his dad has not seen him probably 5 times in 10 years.


When was the last time you spent time with your nephews?
 

jigs

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nonothing said:
aplusmnt said:
jigs said:
I agree that the ghettos are a lose lose situation. BUT if I made a white version of the NAACP or the Caucasian College Fund. I would be a racist !!!

we bend over backwards to help the minorities.....I think enough is enough. me, a black man and a black woman all go for the same job, all 3 equally qualified and experienced....black gal gets the job due to quotas. I call that BS.

all the reasons you stated for kids developing badly, I believe are a direct result of lack of parenting.

If a person talks about the Stereo types of Black people such as lack of parenting it makes us racist.


But we can talk all day about how the stereo types such as being good in sports they are.

Blacks like to pick and choose which stereotypes they want to be known for.

All I can go by is what I see in person. I have two Black nephews they both have different dads and same mom and each dad has at least 3 kids by 3 different women. My nephew does bad in school and has no real direction. But then again his dad has not seen him probably 5 times in 10 years.


When was the last time you spent time with your nephews?
yes, A+....when??? nonothing is trying to blame it on you!!
 

jigs

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looks like a very interesting family tree ! hey, at least it ain't like an Arkansas family tree....all roots and trunk, no branches!
 

aplusmnt

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Texan said:
:shock:

Hmmm...I'm sure I can't be the only one that's wondering about this. But it sure looks like old Texan is gonna have to be the asshole that does everybody's dirty work again...

aplusmnt said:
I have two Black nephews...
Should we assume these are F-1's or fullbloods? :lol:

Yea they would be F-1's :lol: Below is a pic of my Fullblood son in the front and my F-1 Nephew in the rear.

Reba.jpg
 

Texan

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Good for you, aplus. Sounds like your nephews need all of the help you can give them. They're lucky to have you.
 

jigs

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aplusmnt said:
Texan said:
:shock:

Hmmm...I'm sure I can't be the only one that's wondering about this. But it sure looks like old Texan is gonna have to be the asshole that does everybody's dirty work again...

aplusmnt said:
I have two Black nephews...
Should we assume these are F-1's or fullbloods? :lol:

Yea they would be F-1's :lol: Below is a pic of my Fullblood son in the front and my F-1 Nephew in the rear.

Reba.jpg

is that you on the bottom??? :wink: [/i]
 

aplusmnt

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jigs said:
nonothing said:
When was the last time you spent time with your nephews?

yes, A+....when??? nonothing is trying to blame it on you!!

That sure shows the make up of nonothing to even make a comment like that. How much time I spend with them is irrelevant, I am not the father of the children.

But for the record, the last tim I spent any time with them would have been last night. When the older one rode the school bus to my house. Him, me and my son of the same age worked on their basketball dribbling skills for an hour or so. Then we loaded up in the truck and went to the city, were we went to MC Sports and I bought him a new pair of Tennis shoes and a T-Shirt with the print Tough as nails on it. Then took him with my family to Fudruckers to and fed him a 1/3 pound burger with fries, no pop only water because afterwards we went and saw the movie "Pursuit of Happiness" with Will Smith. Where there I bought him some Pop Corn, Milk duds and a Pop.

Is that a good enough description of when the last time I spent time with my nephew? For the record that is probably more time and money spent on him in one night than his worthless father has ever did in his life.

I have taught him to play sports, he is on every team my son is. I bought him a pig to show in County fair last year. And if you look above you will see me leading him around the yard on one of our mules.
 

jigs

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what did you think of the movie? all I have heard is GREAT things. a real good movie for families to see. hope it lives up to the hype!
 

P Joe

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aplusmnt said:
jigs said:
nonothing said:
When was the last time you spent time with your nephews?

yes, A+....when??? nonothing is trying to blame it on you!!

That sure shows the make up of nonothing to even make a comment like that. How much time I spend with them is irrelevant, I am not the father of the children.

But for the record, the last tim I spent any time with them would have been last night. When the older one rode the school bus to my house. Him, me and my son of the same age worked on their basketball dribbling skills for an hour or so. Then we loaded up in the truck and went to the city, were we went to MC Sports and I bought him a new pair of Tennis shoes and a T-Shirt with the print Tough as nails on it. Then took him with my family to Fudruckers to and fed him a 1/3 pound burger with fries, no pop only water because afterwards we went and saw the movie "Pursuit of Happiness" with Will Smith. Where there I bought him some Pop Corn, Milk duds and a Pop.

Is that a good enough description of when the last time I spent time with my nephew? For the record that is probably more time and money spent on him in one night than his worthless father has ever did in his life.

I have taught him to play sports, he is on every team my son is. I bought him a pig to show in County fair last year. And if you look above you will see me leading him around the yard on one of our mules.

I don't know where nonothing was going with that, but your right it doesn't matter.

AS FOR the TIME you spend with the kid. I COMMEND you. I only hope he turns out as good as you did. You deserve a pat on the back for taking over where so many dead beats leave off.
 

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