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P Joe

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reader (the Second) said:
I'm sorry but I don't understand what Kola has to do with your using raunchy language speaking to ME. I am not a shrinking violet but 99% of the time I avoid cursing or toilet mouth talk. I was not brought up that way with bad language and now that I'm an older woman I am reverting to my upbringing.

I suggest that you police your talk. Strong opinions are great but at least some of us are not used to such language whether you meant to be crude and disrespectful or just colorful. It's one thing to tell a joke, it's another thing to aim yucky insults at a person.

Sorry, didn't know you were a lady. I forgot we have double standards for when we talk to men vs when we talk to ladies. :eek:

And come on, if you truely are an older person, you have had to heard worse before. If that is the most disrespecful, crude language you have ever heard, well then you must not get out much. And it's not like something I made up. I have heard many peple say that. Just not quite as nicely as I put it.

It was meant as a joke, to get a rise out of you.:D You know you giggled a little bit, or maybe you just spit the coffee out of you mouth. Whatever I guess. I'll keep posting they way I want. Like you have told me, don't read them if you hate me so. I'm not out to impress you and could care less of your opinion of me. :D Have a good day.
 

Steve

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This whole thread is like a snake with his head cut off...it just keeps flopping around when it oughta be dead.
spewing a little venom all the while.....



Interesting rant by Kola....couldn't understand it....maybe for the same reason she fails to see when she makes condensending comments..

but in an effort to answer:

I unconditionally support our troops

No matter of my beliefs in politics,..I will support the job they do, and the missions they perform....

I will not use thier bad day to show my hatred towards a politician.

I try to support conservative values over liberal views....

and if I see a person place a mis-factual statement, I try to place the facts, so most can see them....those blinded by thier views seldom do though...

I even try to defuse some threads with humor.....but most miss it....

so sometimes it's like Pissing in the wind.........but most of US keep trying....



As for you helping your friend...I'm not sure how that played into the whole thing.....I see nothing wrong with you helping a friend,...nor needing anyone from this sites approval to do so......

sorry it took to long to answer,..had a busy day.....went to a funeral of a young man...good kid,..went to church....helped others ,..was part of a youth group....was just trying to help a kid that no one else wanted to help,.....was shot in the head, by a sociopath. ..every one knew the kid was going to kill some one some day.....but the courts just kept letting him see shrinks....the young man John was 23,.......the sociapath was 17.

to clear my head I went riding on my Jetski....(92 Kawasaki Stand up)...waves were great...low 60s...water was cold.....in the end I still believe in GOD....and the good in others....(just not all others)......there is evil in the world.....the politics on here are a nice escape...sometimes we bring to much in....

take it for what it is....it's an answer.....might not be what you want but it is an answer.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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reader (the Second) said:
I'm sorry but I don't understand what Kola has to do with your using raunchy language speaking to ME. I am not a shrinking violet but 99% of the time I avoid cursing or toilet mouth talk. I was not brought up that way with bad language and now that I'm an older woman I am reverting to my upbringing.

I suggest that you police your talk. Strong opinions are great but at least some of us are not used to such language whether you meant to be crude and disrespectful or just colorful. It's one thing to tell a joke, it's another thing to aim yucky insults at a person.

I know i shouldn't but in the spirit of the season here goes.

Reader your the most two faced sanctimonious old bag on this site. You critize one posters spelling or typo's on one session and defend anothers on another. You defend OT and Haymaker when they make derogatory comments to women on some threads and chastize men you don't like on others. You even let on to us that you were a large over wieght black woman when someone posted a cute weddind picture. You tell us you support the cattle industry then you let on that beef is the cause of vCJD. I know what the "2" behind your name means. 2 FACED.
 

Hanta Yo

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Faster horses said:
Well, R2, this forum really is for ranchers and if that's the way they
talk, I don't get too upset. It could be wayyyyyyy worse. If
I was too offended, I guess I'd leave. It's my choice whether
I want to be here or not.

Not that I condone it, but I guess after all these years of working with
guys, I can kinda let things run off me. Maybe it's
because I understand where they are coming from. And I think
Pjoe was just trying to shock you a little.

Ya just can't get your panties in a wad about everything. :wink:


Hahahahahahahahahaha! :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Yes, I certainly hear ALOT worse working cows in the alleyway!!! :wink: R2, this is not meant to be mean but informational to you, but you appear to be a little bit snobbish, and just a wee bit ignorant on how us ranch folks think and talk. It's kinda like how it was in Colorado in my teenage years. I would read, "Don't Californicate Colorado" on bumper stickers in the 70's. I'm sure you would have taken that as being extremely rude. It was making a major point. Unfortunately, it has happened. Colorado has been Californicated. I just hope it doesn't come up here. (Not to change the subject)
 

Hanta Yo

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Steve said:
This whole thread is like a snake with his head cut off...it just keeps flopping around when it oughta be dead.
spewing a little venom all the while.....



Interesting rant by Kola....couldn't understand it....maybe for the same reason she fails to see when she makes condensending comments..

but in an effort to answer:

I unconditionally support our troops

No matter of my beliefs in politics,..I will support the job they do, and the missions they perform....

I will not use thier bad day to show my hatred towards a politician.

I try to support conservative values over liberal views....

and if I see a person place a mis-factual statement, I try to place the facts, so most can see them....those blinded by thier views seldom do though...

I even try to defuse some threads with humor.....but most miss it....

so sometimes it's like Pissing in the wind.........but most of US keep trying....



As for you helping your friend...I'm not sure how that played into the whole thing.....I see nothing wrong with you helping a friend,...nor needing anyone from this sites approval to do so......

sorry it took to long to answer,..had a busy day.....went to a funeral of a young man...good kid,..went to church....helped others ,..was part of a youth group....was just trying to help a kid that no one else wanted to help,.....was shot in the head, by a sociopath. ..every one knew the kid was going to kill some one some day.....but the courts just kept letting him see shrinks....the young man John was 23,.......the sociapath was 17.

to clear my head I went riding on my Jetski....(92 Kawasaki Stand up)...waves were great...low 60s...water was cold.....in the end I still believe in GOD....and the good in others....(just not all others)......there is evil in the world.....the politics on here are a nice escape...sometimes we bring to much in....

take it for what it is....it's an answer.....might not be what you want but it is an answer.

Oh, Man, Steve, I am sooooo sorry! I thank GOD you still believe in HIM.

the young man John was 23,.......

The number 23 bugged me for awhile tonight, thinking, thinking, wondering. Looking in the bible in different places but couldn't find what I wanted then BINGO the 23rd Psalm....Steve, this gives me more peace than you can imagine...

"The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not be in want
He makes me lie down in green pastures
he leads me beside quiet waters
he restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.

You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
Surely goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever." NIV

MCG and I love this passage, it gives us so much peace.
 

Steve

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The number 23 bugged me for awhile tonight, thinking, thinking, wondering. Looking in the bible in different places but couldn't find what I wanted then BINGO the 23rd Psalm....Steve, this gives me more peace than you can imagine...

"The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not be in want
He makes me lie down in green pastures
he leads me beside quiet waters
he restores my soul.
He guides me in paths of righteousness
for his name's sake.
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.

You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
Surely goodness and love will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever." NIV

MCG and I love this passage, it gives us so much peace.

Thanks...the pastor spoke these words today...but reading them seemed to help a little more....


.I'm sitting here just a little angry...not much I did today could sit well.......and as it's pushing 1:00pm here ....I can see that I'll more then likely be up most of the night.....maybe instead of trying to find an answer I will just read the bible for awhile...and I have to go delete the other post I put up......
 

Faster horses

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You know what, Steve?

Good men should be angry when bad things happen to good people.

I know you will resolve it in your mind, and remember some good
will come of this, although it is very hard, if not impossible, to think
that way now. You are a good person with a lot of wisdom. I'm sorry
for the loss of your good friend.

The only reason a good person dies in vain, is because we let them.

May God bless you and comfort you.
 

nonothing

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Steve I am sorry for your loss.it is hard to lose someone you so young on both counts in that story.

If I wrote the rant jigs wrote,I would be called every thing from a sniveling racist to scared little chauvinist....But since Jigs wrote it the repub's agree so far with him it seems,The part on slavery reeks of the skin head movement and you all just let it go.Steve you proved to me that you will let anything pass if said by a repub.....You talk about church groups but let open racist remarks go undeterred....


katrina has no gumption either,being a women and agreeing with him was an eye opener as in how far one will go to kiss a$$.....would she accept her boss telling her to go home and take care of her family and then hire a man,to do her job?..if the answer is yes,then she should do it anyways....she has no business working out side the home,,,right jigs?

this is a prime example of how you let your own on here get away with what ever they want and to day it is race hate....and you sit there and tell us how bad KOL is for having money and helping others.or how bad a speller she is but yet you will idley stand by and let a man write in here how his so called ancestors bought another ancestors as slaves and they should now just get over it....odd you would let that go steve.....I honestly thought you to be a more stand up guy then you showed tonight.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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reader (the Second) said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
reader (the Second) said:
I'm sorry but I don't understand what Kola has to do with your using raunchy language speaking to ME. I am not a shrinking violet but 99% of the time I avoid cursing or toilet mouth talk. I was not brought up that way with bad language and now that I'm an older woman I am reverting to my upbringing.

I suggest that you police your talk. Strong opinions are great but at least some of us are not used to such language whether you meant to be crude and disrespectful or just colorful. It's one thing to tell a joke, it's another thing to aim yucky insults at a person.

I know i shouldn't but in the spirit of the season here goes.

Reader your the most two faced sanctimonious old bag on this site. You critize one posters spelling or typo's on one session and defend anothers on another. You defend OT and Haymaker when they make derogatory comments to women on some threads and chastize men you don't like on others. You even let on to us that you were a large over wieght black woman when someone posted a cute weddind picture. You tell us you support the cattle industry then you let on that beef is the cause of vCJD. I know what the "2" behind your name means. 2 FACED.

If P Joe had said to Tam what he said to me, you would have let him have it.

Sounds like you too are overtired or overstressed. Or have a hidden agenda. Thanks for your kind words and Happy Holidays to you too.


Over tired and overstressed? That's the life of a rancher in these times i would have to say. Many forces at work to change our great way of life. One nice thing was to come on ranchers and visit with like minded people and discuss our industry . But again we have people with agendas come on here and try to push on us their veiws and values. When we push back they become offended. You don't have a standard .
If you don't like the company go look for a door.
 

jigs

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nonothing said:
Steve I am sorry for your loss.it is hard to lose someone you so young on both counts in that story.

If I wrote the rant jigs wrote,I would be called every thing from a sniveling racist to scared little chauvinist....But since Jigs wrote it the repub's agree so far with him it seems,The part on slavery reeks of the skin head movement and you all just let it go.Steve you proved to me that you will let anything pass if said by a repub.....You talk about church groups but let open racist remarks go undeterred....


katrina has no gumption either,being a women and agreeing with him was an eye opener as in how far one will go to kiss a$$.....would she accept her boss telling her to go home and take care of her family and then hire a man,to do her job?..if the answer is yes,then she should do it anyways....she has no business working out side the home,,,right jigs?

this is a prime example of how you let your own on here get away with what ever they want and to day it is race hate....and you sit there and tell us how bad KOL is for having money and helping others.or how bad a speller she is but yet you will idley stand by and let a man write in here how his so called ancestors bought another ancestors as slaves and they should now just get over it....odd you would let that go steve.....I honestly thought you to be a more stand up guy then you showed tonight.
ok, know nothing let me clear this up a bit for you.

I am balding, but I am no skinhead.the slavery thing was a bad deal. and while many think the civil war was fought to end slavery it was not. it was fought to preserve the nation. freeing slaves was just a bonus. yes I do believe the black need to drop the slavery issue. 150 years ago is a long time. they have had plenty of time to get it going....they have, for the most part. but people like Jessie Jackson, use slavery as an avenue to KEEP the blacks enslaved to poverty and racism. we enslaved the Chinese in California, do you hear them crying about it 100 years later???

as far as the women thing, you took it out of context. liberal spin.

in todays world it is nearly impossible to raise a family on one income. I farm with another guy to make things work. am building my own place as we go, in hopes of separating and being truly independent. also my wife teaches preschool 3 days a week.
However, if possible I think the whole family structure works best with the man doing his role as provider, and the woman doing her role as nurturer and by playing that role she is home with the kids. any woman who would not love to be able to do this is flawed in my mind. it is just the natural way for the woman to be home tending to the kids, and completing her man. God made woman FOR man, we have gotten to far away from that. My daughter want to go to college and become about 4 different things (they change as often as the wind) I tell her she can be anything she wants to be, but remind her that her primary goal is to be a good wife and mother. everything else is unimportant.

now if you do not mind, I need to go about my mean vicious Republican day. need to count my money, kick a homeless person, laugh at the poor, have an affair, beat my wife, buy me a colored person, listen to Limbaugh, drink some expensive hootch, eat better than a king, come up with a new conspiracy theory, profit from the war, clean my gun, and pay off some local officials to get what I want.

that is how you see me live my life isn't it?
 

Tap

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I wanted to make an observation, but doing so shows that I am actually still keeping up with this BS. :wink:

nonothing said that if he talked like jigs he would be labled a racist. Maybe or maybe not, but I do think that is one of the things wrong with American society. It ticks me off that people cannot say what they believe without the fear of being "politically correct". Political correctness is just the lefts way of trying to silence what they do not believe in. Period.

Also, I would never tell reader to- well you know, I am not repeating it, but crap like that has to be tolerated sometimes in a free speech world. Just because I don't like to hear it doesn't mean it shouldn't be said. But I still don't like it. There are some things that may be said when the boys are working together, but most of the things like that are NEVER said when a lady is present. And I hope that never changes, as I have too much respect for the ladies.
 

katrina

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katrina has no gumption either,being a women and agreeing with him was an eye opener as in how far one will go to kiss a$$.....would she accept her boss telling her to go home and take care of her family and then hire a man,to do her job?..if the answer is yes,then she should do it anyways....she has no business working out side the home,,,right jigs?

Hello!!!!!!!! No nothing, Since you haven't been on this forum very long let me clue you in....... I work on day a week at a dental office in town.... My kids are old enough that I think I can do this to keep up my accredidation as a CDA. And I did quit to raise my kids. I have two children that are 16 and 9.. They go to differant schools in differant states...... My husband farms and we haul our wheat to Fremont and Omaha ourselves, which means my husband leaves around 1:00 am in the morning... I get kids to school, feed fats, feed cows, feed horses, feed the bulls and run water...by my self....... The kids and I are bringing the cows home from the stalks after school tonight because of the impending snow.
At our house we are equal parteners... Decesons are made together... The one thing I love the most about my husband is the fact that he lets me do some thinking and he appreciates my input. Not saying he hasn't pulled me out of some pretty dumb situations.... And when he does he never uses it aginst me....
I'm sorry you think I kiss jigs ass...... The thing is, I know more about him than what he post on these boards.... And most times it's all in fun because I enjoy warped sense of humors.... And I happen to agree with alot he says..... I'm sure that when his wife sees the honor the husband, she will probablly slap him.....
I don't know your situation, but what ever it is, if it works for you, hey that's okay with me...

Have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year..
 

Texan

Well-known member
quickdraw said:
I posted something in another forum (waste of time) that I meant to post here, how can I move it??
Go to your other post and copy it. Then go to the upper right hand corner of that post and click on the "X" tab - it's the very small one beside the "Edit" tab. That will let you delete that post (as long as nobody else has posted after you). Then come back to the "Post Reply" tab in this one, and paste it back in here.
 

quickdraw

Well-known member
If I may interject here for just a few sentences, i would like to address a couple of issues!

I do not care for religous or political debates for there seldom is a clear and overwhelming winner, and the end result becomes just what this whole post has become, the conservitives bashing the libs and vise versa.

When feelings get hurt the personal insults start to fly, as well as the "MY Daddy can whip your Daddy" mentality, and the "Oh Woe is Me" attitude, that someone then ends up looking for a way to turn others away from the original debate, and to their plight by seeking just one person to feel sorry for them or claiming foul.
All it takes then for it to escalate is for ONE other person to fan the flame, so to speak, and it is out of hand.
Usually the second person becomes argumentive has somewhat of a bully attitude, because they are trying to prove how big of a person they are by supporting the first person and it ends up getting out of hand, and in most cases does more damage than help.


With out pointing fingers I see that very thing happening here.
One crying out for attention, another jumping into the fray to assist, followed by a third and it becomes one big finger pointing "you said he said" mess

Forgive me if I am wrong wasn't this supposed to be a politcal forum for debate? Instead it seems to me it has become a forum for dispensing hate against one party/person or the other, or for posting a lot of information that is meant, not for informational reasons, but for no reason other to incite/bash the opposing party/person.

Sorry for jumping in here without being invited.
 

Soapweed

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Tap said:
I wanted to make an observation, but doing so shows that I am actually still keeping up with this BS. :wink:

It's kind of like watching NASCAR or Professional Bull Riding. People are great fans because they like to watch the wrecks. On here we are entertained by the writing wrecks.
 
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Tap
nonothing said that if he talked like jigs he would be labled a racist. Maybe or maybe not, but I do think that is one of the things wrong with American society. It ticks me off that people cannot say what they believe without the fear of being "politically correct". Political correctness is just the lefts way of trying to silence what they do not believe in. Period.

Amen--that and the labeling of someone/everyone because they happen to disapprove of a stand or policy of a person/group just because that person/group has a (D) or an (R) behind their name....

That and labeling someone a "Bush Basher" because you do not agree with every movement the man/administration makes......The ability/right to criticize our leaders is something this country can't afford to lose....Then we will be no better off than Iraq under Saddam....

As one of GW's strongest backers- I have come to see more and more of his programs/plans that have not succeeded and have became more questioning of his ability/true direction-- and I think my expectations of and votes for him also allow me the privilege of criticizing him when he fails me....
 

Steve

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..odd you would let that go steve.....I honestly thought you to be a more stand up guy then you showed tonight.

when some on here post a rant....and it sounds bad,,,confront them....I am not the board moniter...never will be...

I feel Jigs would be better to answer you post then me,...and he did.

Last night when I was angry I answered your every point....but to do so made it sound harsh,...so I deleted 99% of it....

I try to crastise in private.....praise in public......works better for some that way.....

as for yesterday.....I had more demanding thing to do then read 15 pages of posts and respond to them......

I responded to yours.....and Kolas'...and then deleted the response to yours as there was no way to answer with out continueing to drag out a agruement about an agruement......

as for Jigs two main points.....

I believe that Slaves should be compensated by thoses who inslaved them directly......so as soon as you find a slave let him (or her) sue thier former employer..

growing up on the Indian Reservation, and living in New Jersey I see many lives wasted.....I refuse to waste mine just so I can get back at some old dead person. in many ways it is time ot move forward and "recapture" our true freedoms...and not continue to be enslaved by the Jesse Jacksons of this world.

as for wives staying home....I am grateful my wife stayed home....most families I know that the wife works in a career sacrifice thier childrens' childhood and then can't understand what went wrong.....

as for the rich thing.....who really cares....I just find some of the remarks condensending.....and am willing to confront that....

btw....didn't see you confronting Econ101 when she spewed her name-calling bashing rants....
 

katrina

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Thanks reader,
But I respectfully have to say you have jigs all wrong..... Trust me on this one...... :wink:
Oh man..... He is going to give me sooooo much crap!!! Oh, well.... :roll: :twisted:
 

nonothing

Well-known member
Thank you all.....this thread has finally turned away from insults......JIgs your second try is a lot more understandable then your first?Honestly I think your a caring man would help another If someone needed help of any kind .....Katrina I saw your post as ableing a message i felt is no longer accepted...you say you have a different report with jigs,then i will accept that and move forward with a better understanding of your friendship.....soapweed you are welcome for the entertainment of my writing wrecks if i was one of the drivers you had your sights on.....Tap I disagree with you on what you dubbed"politically correct",I think in a society where children are being raised,hate has no place in a public forum.If you Tap want your children to know hate then that is your business,as you can see from other countries around the world opening up hate to be no longer a political correctness issue, has created fully blinded nation's and terrorist organizations.....Last but not least Steve,first off you need to work on the praising in public,but i do respect you for your private conversations with which we have shared.

I do realize my political thoughts are not the same as many of the people here ,but they are not as far off as you may think....This was to me not about a political agenda but rather a point of personal attacks....I am not condoning my behavior as righteous or even that i handle every post the right way.....I can at times be cutting or immature and when I read back or look back at my posts,I am not always proud of my response.....I felt though that things needed to be said and right or wrong I took on that challenge....I am sorry if i offended any one,well that's not true,to be honest at times i tried to be offensive to some only because my anger at times leaked through...Now that I see the issue as being closed and maybe this board getting back to its intention of political debates.our disagreements can be more about information and political situations rather than the personal bashing we all have been a party to on some level recently.....I will no longer chase this issue,to me my say should of been long over by now....I am sorry to those that come here for a good ole fashion debate and I have a new found respect towards others that at anytime could of chimed in,but never did....enjoy the season and Merry Christmas to you all.
 

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