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Another NAIS "MANDATE"

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Anonymous

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I just noticed this article today...Tell me, does this mean what I think it does by reading between the lines? Does this mean that in order to continue Bangs vaccinating all your heifers (like most in Montana do) that you will be required to get a NAIS Premise ID and have these cattle NAIS tagged? :???:

It appears to me to be a backdoor way to mandate some folks to use NAIS...I'm afraid it will - and only hope it doesn't- stop many from using the very important Bangs vaccination program... :( :mad:

APHIS testing RFID tags for animal disease programs



FEEDSTUFFS

August 23, 2007



USDA may soon use radio frequency ear tags to replace the conventional ear tags it uses in some animal disease programs. A USDA statement today reported that the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service is reviewing several proposals for the production and delivery of 1.5 million radio frequency ear tags that are compliant with the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) standards. The ear tags will be used to uniquely identify U.S. livestock that are part of current animal disease programs, in particular within geographic regions where bovine tuberculosis testing and the brucellosis calfhood vaccination program are most active, the APHIS statement reported.

"Using these animal identification number tags with radio frequency ID technology enhances the accuracy of animal identification and increases the program administration efficiencies," said Bruce Knight, undersecretary for USDA's marketing and regulatory programs. "Most importantly, it puts us a step closer to our goal of rapid traceback when an animal disease outbreak occurs."
feedstuffs.com
 
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Mike said:
I like the RFID tags. I think they are a good idea.

We ARE in the 21st Century OT. :lol:

It really doesn't matter to me-- but what bothers me worse is our USDA/government/Administration is again speaking with "forked tongue"...Since they got so much heat-- and a majority of producers came out against the one system ID, "mandatory ID"-- they told everyone it would be voluntary...But then turn around and "mandate" it for so many things, that it is still a mandatory ID.....

My big worry here is that there are so many in my area that just don't trust the government-- don't want mandatory ID and its added costs/labor- and the increased cost the Bangs vaccination will be because of it--- that many will just drop the Bangs vaccination program (which USDA wanted to do anyway :roll:)
And that would not be good......

I can just hear Ol Doc "Sorry Boys, I had to raise my price up $5 because of this new guvment thing--$3 for the tags and $2 to get the price of my new tagger paid for"....
And 3 years from now he'll still be trying to get his tagger investment back :roll: :wink: :lol:

And then if he has to get one of them "new fangled tag readers"-- nobody will be able to afford vaccinations... :roll:
 

EJ

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It is your right to use the tags and register your premise. Just be aware of how much government you`re getting tied up with. Jus t remember "We`re from the USDA and we`re here to help"

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Kato

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My big worry here is that there are so many in my area that just don't trust the government-- don't want mandatory ID and its added costs/labor- and the increased cost the Bangs vaccination will be because of it--- that many will just drop the Bangs vaccination program (which USDA wanted to do anyway )
And that would not be good......

No, it would be dumb. :dunce:

Do you or do you not want to eradicate brucellosis??? Why should you be afraid of added costs? We're not supposed to be afraid of the added costs of MCOOL, and unlike MCOOL, the added costs of getting rid of such a disease would actually pay some added returns.

I'm thinking that the government boys will be the ones that have the readers and that it will speed up whatever processing they do. Hardly anyone outside of vets, big feedlots and processors up here has a reader. We use regular tags on the cattle as well, and never look at the RFID numbers once they are on the cattle, and written in the book. Besides, it makes a great backup if they lose their regular tag.

Why doesn't anyone around there trust the government? Is it a cultural thing? Culture of paranoia and conspiracy theories? You have a democracy. Vote them out. That's the kind of advice you keep giving us about our situation up here. "Quit riding on the American coat tails". Easier said than done eh? :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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Interestingly - Yesterday I had a chance to speak with one of the Montana Dept of Livestock brand inspectors that had worked the brucellosis outbreak down at Yellowstone Park-- they had the job of tracing back all cattle that had came into or went out of that herd for the past 5 years and all cattle coming in any type of contact.....

When they finished all the trackdown they were critiqued by the Federal boys-- and he said that the head USDA official in charge of the operation flat out admitted to them that the current proposed tagging system of NAIS's could not have handled the trackdown as fast and as thoroughly as they were able to do with the states brand inspection system....

Kind of shows that lots of things will work if you have a good infrastructure built up and a smooth running system....

Somehow "good infrastructure and smooth running system" are not words that ever fit in with anything the US government has ever put together.... :wink: :lol: :( :mad:
 

PORKER

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When they finished all the trackdown they were critiqued by the Federal boys-- and he said that the head USDA official in charge of the operation flat out admitted to them that the current proposed tagging system of NAIS's could not have handled the trackdown as fast and as thoroughly as they were able to do with the states brand inspection system....

UNLESS THEY USED SA ! Fastest trackdown system on earth ! Brands,RFID Transponders, ear tags or DNA-RNA Only takes seconds.
https://www.scoringag.com/scoringag/3/presentations/CDPresentation_ATO_2005.pps
 
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Anonymous

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Like several of the fellows at the meeting I was at yesterday said--knowing how the government works-- they will take the lowest bid contract (that slips the most money under the table to the politicians/bureaucrats pockets) and throw that system to us and say you have to use it.....

So much for Johanns "voluntary ID"--just as big a liar as the rest of this Administration has been......


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General News
USDA reviews proposals for national animal ID ear tags

By Ann Bagel Storck on 8/28/2007 for Meatingplace.com


The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service is reviewing several proposals for the production and delivery of 1.5 million radio frequency ear tags that are compliant with National Animal Identification System standards.

These ear tags will be used to uniquely identify U.S. livestock that are part of current animal disease programs, particularly within geographic regions where bovine tuberculosis testing and the brucellosis calfhood vaccination programs are most active.
 

PORKER

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A bunch of pilot's were run and there is still no list of which ones worked and the ones that were failures. They all took gov. handouts and you can see it was in the millions. No accountabitily as the House cut off all funding. ScoringAg never took a dime of any federal monies to make traceback databases work, here in the US. or any other country,must be that's why everyone is chasing their technology. They have the best system for privacy bar non.
 
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PORKER said:
ScoringAg never took a dime of any federal monies to make traceback databases work, here in the US. or any other country,must be that's why everyone is chasing their technology. They have the best system for privacy bar non.

That could possibly be why ScoringAg doesn't have the whole government contract-- if you're not on the take- funneling some back to the good old boy politicians/bureaucrats in D.C. you'll never get anywhere in the US :wink: :lol:

Offer old Johanns a 6 or 7 figure advisors job starting January of 09-- and you'll have the whole system :wink: :lol: :( :mad:
 
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