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Another one bites the dust...................

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backhoeboogie said:
kolanuraven said:
backhoeboogie said:
Awe come on now. I have always said I did not blame Bill. Just look at Hillary and you can understand. Monica wasn't all that pretty but.......

It is the gay thing you are I are disconnected on and we always will be. That's just how it is. Dems/Reps - whatever. If they are gay, count me out of supporting anything or trying to rationalize anything.



Boogie...'gay' has NOTHING to do with this Sanford deal.

I can't see how and where and why you keep bringing that into this thread.

There are women out there trolling. No kidding. Some are looking for an upgrade but a lot of the older married ones and just looking for a good time. I assume it is the same way with men trolling for a lady on the side. If a man is susceptible, he ought not put him in a position of power. Plain and simple.

What I pity the most are the 4 boys at home who did nothing wrong. I can't say anything either way about the wife because I don't know if she was or wasn't taking care of business. My guess would be she wasn't since she was so quick to offer forgiveness. There's more to the story I am sure. None of us truly have a clue and I would never be afforded the opportunity to vote for the guy in the first place.

The fact I did not like Bill had nothing to do with Monica

Kolo I am a very good quarterback on Monday morning.

Sanfords wife is quite a looker...I heard some pundits call her gorgeous..But looks ain't everything....

Backhole- the sad thing is that anyone that runs for public office (D or R) or takes any position of responsibility in government- now open themselves and their whole family to personal attacks and loose their entire private life...

Its sad- the shock jock/national enquirer attitude has taken over the media of the country-and the way most folks think anymore- and I personally think it keeps many of the "best" possible candidates from wanting to get involved in politics or government....

But just like on this site- (and I'm as guilty as all) its become a tit for tat- he did this- so he did that- so he's worse than she is, etc. etc. etc, battle....
 
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Yep- Old Gary Hart- Donna Rice and the "Monkey Business" :lol:

You even have shock jocks and gossip/fearmongering-hatemongering publications - on both sides- that offer standing rewards for any smut they can dig up on their opposing sides politicians/government appointees....

I remember back during the times we were going thru all the Mills and even Hart scandals- the European politicians were having dozens more- and thought little of it...


Italian prime minister says model lied


ROME, June 24 (UPI) -- Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi says a model was paid to spread false accusations that he had prostitutes attend parties at his homes.

In an interview with the Italian magazine Chi, Berlusconi denied ever paying for sex, the BBC reported Wednesday.

"I never understood where the satisfaction is when you're missing the pleasure of conquest," Chi quoted the Italian president as saying.

The model, Patrizia D'Addario, said last week that she and other women had been paid more than $1,000 to attend a party at Berlusconi's Rome home with other women, the magazine reported.

D'Addario also said last week she had secretly videotaped trysts with Berlusconi, The Independent reported.

Berlusconi said D'Addario had been paid "extremely well" to make false accusations against him, the BBC reported.

D'Addario denied the allegation.

Berlusconi's wife of 19 years, Veronica Lario, filed for divorce in May, accusing him of "improper relations" with a young woman. She also criticized him for attending the 18th birthday party of a TV actress and model, the BBC said.

I heard a news report on TV about this- that said even tho many in Italy thought the old boy probably had done all this-he had no worry about losing office- as his popularity was as high or higher than before :eek:
 

aplusmnt

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reader (the Second) said:
It started with Gary Hart being outted.

I frankly don't care about politicians womanizing. They have done it for centuries. As long as female politicians have equal rights and can manize :wink:

But again, to reiterate, you cannot speak out of both sides of your mouth like the GPO has been doing. You will get caught as they have been with their pants down.

Stop throwing stones GOP, you're not blameless saints.

I think the man should resign due to his abandoning his post.

But I do find it funny how everyone gets in uproar about GOP throwing stones etc.......

Fact is politicians are all dirt bags, it takes a pretty big ego to be one and men with pretty big ego's cheat on their wife. This is a just a predictable fact.

But the other fact is all politicians talk out of both sides of their mouths we can look at Al Gore as one example, he talks about saving the planet. But he has a larger carbon foot print on the world probably more than all of us here on Political bull combined.

Saying one thing and doing another is the way of a politician. To think the Republican party is wrong in their platform due to the actions of a few would be like saying the Democrat party is wrong due to the actions of Al Gore!

Politicians are snakes, ALL OF THEM! All we can hope for is that in their being a snake they occasionally VOTE in a way that does less harm to the U.S. than what what the alternative would have did.

Like I said, I think the man should resign and take his snake like ways into the private sector.

I also think if funny that because the GOP stands for morality and a few sheep fall from the flock you seem to think the wolf pack is correct now that never stood on any moral ground! Even one of Jesus apostles sold him out, but that did not make Jesus message wrong, or the message that Judas preached about up until the point of betrayal.
 

hopalong

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reader (the Second) said:
The GOP does not stand for morality. It callously exploits you naive voters with its family values propaganda. The fact that it repeatedly runs low life candidates who have no morals should make you throw up.

And the liberals are soooooo pure?????
Come on reader you make me me want to throw up with your statements like that!
 

Larrry

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" We democrats will not break a promise on upholding family values, because we don't have any"

All the while most times the reps try to dismiss the ones in their party who sway from the values they should uphold as all Politicians should.
 

aplusmnt

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reader (the Second) said:
hopalong said:
reader (the Second) said:
The GOP does not stand for morality. It callously exploits you naive voters with its family values propaganda. The fact that it repeatedly runs low life candidates who have no morals should make you throw up.

And the liberals are soooooo pure?????
Come on reader you make me me want to throw up with your statements like that!

Nope, not pure but not trying to shove this stuff down other's throats either.

Al Gore does not try to shove Global Warming down our throats all the while he keeps Air running in Limo so it will be cool 2 hours later when he gets done with his speech?

Politicians are scum, hypocritical dirt bags that is the facts. They all try to shove their personal interest groups down our throats. Barney Frank and Pelosi try to shove gay rights down our throats and some Republicans try to shove religion.

They are all cut from the same cloth!

The important thing is how are WE? Are we hypocrites, do we take up for Al Gore while condemning others?

I have notices all Conservative talk shows speaking out against Sanford, but you rarely see Liberals speaking out against Liberal screw ups! They make excuses for them.
 

hypocritexposer

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As theatrical as Beck is, he asks the questions, and gets the answers, although they may be disguised. Watch the reaction of Jim DeMint, when asked if he could vouch for Sanford's character. (maybe Beck had the head's up) The question was from a few days ago.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=6291916&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/index.html
 

fff

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hopalong said:
reader (the Second) said:
The GOP does not stand for morality. It callously exploits you naive voters with its family values propaganda. The fact that it repeatedly runs low life candidates who have no morals should make you throw up.

And the liberals are soooooo pure?????
Come on reader you make me me want to throw up with your statements like that!

Nobody said liberals were pure. And that's why YOU lose. When Sanford demanded that Bill Clinton resign as President because of the sex scandel, he gave up ANY right to stay on as governor of SC when he diddled a woman not his wife. That's why it is sooooo funny when a Republican is caught with his pants down.

I have family values; everyone has family values. Dems and liberals just don't go out and set their family values up as political policy. As long as they continue to do that, the left will be happy to laugh and point when one of them falls from grace. And they will.

It amazes me that right wingers will continue to fall for the old Republican "family values" line when, one after another, it's plain that the actual Republican politicians don't believe it! They've been jerking you guys around for YEARS and you just continue supporting them. They had complete control of the government for years. Did they outlaw abortion? No. Did they outlaw gay marriage? No. All they did was TALK about them to get YOU to the polls and vote for them. And it worked; apparently still is working. It's a sad commentary on the IQ of the right wingers. :roll:
 
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fff said:
hopalong said:
reader (the Second) said:
The GOP does not stand for morality. It callously exploits you naive voters with its family values propaganda. The fact that it repeatedly runs low life candidates who have no morals should make you throw up.

And the liberals are soooooo pure?????
Come on reader you make me me want to throw up with your statements like that!

Nobody said liberals were pure. And that's why YOU lose. When Sanford demanded that Bill Clinton resign as President because of the sex scandel, he gave up ANY right to stay on as governor of SC when he diddled a woman not his wife. That's why it is sooooo funny when a Republican is caught with his pants down.

I have family values; everyone has family values. Dems and liberals just don't go out and set their family values up as political policy. As long as they continue to do that, the left will be happy to laugh and point when one of them falls from grace. And they will.

It amazes me that right wingers will continue to fall for the old Republican "family values" line when, one after another, it's plain that the actual Republican politicians don't believe it! They've been jerking you guys around for YEARS and you just continue supporting them. They had complete control of the government for years. Did they outlaw abortion? No. Did they outlaw gay marriage? No. All they did was TALK about them to get YOU to the polls and vote for them. And it worked; apparently still is working. It's a sad commentary on the IQ of the right wingers. :roll:

Good post fff-- and how true...Republicans have lost all the old core values of conservatives- fiscal conservatism, no nation building, keeping our noses out of other countries business, frugalty and effieciency in business, strong moral business practices, being what was the law and order party, etc. etc-- and thrown those all out the window...

And the new Republican party of today bases most of their thinking around the extremist fundamentalist social values- and they have been using these to get or keep a following- much of which is part of the evangelical Pentecostalism that has became the base of the party- and which has scared some old and many young away from the party...

I read an article the other day that commented on the same thing you did-
Why when the Republicans controlled both Congress and the White House did Congress not outlaw abortion and gay marriage? Their answer was that they didn't want to- they never will-- because they would then lose the current main theme of their party- a couple of the only things they have left to fearmonger and hatemonger with and stir their masses (guns are #1)... And now with a failed economic direction they led the country into- and seemingly no direction to lead to- or leadership-- their shock jock radio cult leaders are looking for every tidbit they can grab onto to make people forget about the Oil wars, $ Trillions sent to GW's sandpit, the Bush Bust, etc. etc...

A few months back I posted the Republican Platform of 1908- 100 years ago- and you could look at that- and the current Republicanism- and you wouldn't recognize them as the same party....Back then progressive wasn't thought of by Republicans as being a dirty word- the Republicans were the party that wanted to move into the 20th Century....Now Republicans are the ones that think we should stay in the 20th Century or on the issue of their extreme social fundamentalism- move back into the 18th or 19th Century...
 

don

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if politicians wouldn't use their religion to further their career it wouldn't bite them in the ass when their hypocrisy became evident. btw i see sanford's wife is an heiress and a businessperson so she's kind of holding the whip now isn't she?
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
fff said:
hopalong said:
And the liberals are soooooo pure?????
Come on reader you make me me want to throw up with your statements like that!

Nobody said liberals were pure. And that's why YOU lose. When Sanford demanded that Bill Clinton resign as President because of the sex scandel, he gave up ANY right to stay on as governor of SC when he diddled a woman not his wife. That's why it is sooooo funny when a Republican is caught with his pants down.

I have family values; everyone has family values. Dems and liberals just don't go out and set their family values up as political policy. As long as they continue to do that, the left will be happy to laugh and point when one of them falls from grace. And they will.

It amazes me that right wingers will continue to fall for the old Republican "family values" line when, one after another, it's plain that the actual Republican politicians don't believe it! They've been jerking you guys around for YEARS and you just continue supporting them. They had complete control of the government for years. Did they outlaw abortion? No. Did they outlaw gay marriage? No. All they did was TALK about them to get YOU to the polls and vote for them. And it worked; apparently still is working. It's a sad commentary on the IQ of the right wingers. :roll:

Good post fff-- and how true...Republicans have lost all the old core values of conservatives- fiscal conservatism, no nation building, keeping our noses out of other countries business, frugalty and effieciency in business, strong moral business practices, being what was the law and order party, etc. etc-- and thrown those all out the window...

And the new Republican party of today bases most of their thinking around the extremist fundamentalist social values- and they have been using these to get or keep a following- much of which is part of the evangelical Pentecostalism that has became the base of the party- and which has scared some old and many young away from the party...

I read an article the other day that commented on the same thing you did-
Why when the Republicans controlled both Congress and the White House did Congress not outlaw abortion and gay marriage? Their answer was that they didn't want to- they never will-- because they would then lose the current main theme of their party- a couple of the only things they have left to fearmonger and hatemonger with and stir their masses (guns are #1)... And now with a failed economic direction they led the country into- and seemingly no direction to lead to- or leadership-- their shock jock radio cult leaders are looking for every tidbit they can grab onto to make people forget about the Oil wars, $ Trillions sent to GW's sandpit, the Bush Bust, etc. etc...

A few months back I posted the Republican Platform of 1908- 100 years ago- and you could look at that- and the current Republicanism- and you wouldn't recognize them as the same party....Back then progressive wasn't thought of by Republicans as being a dirty word- the Republicans were the party that wanted to move into the 20th Century....Now Republicans are the ones that think we should stay in the 20th Century or on the issue of their extreme social fundamentalism- move back into the 18th or 19th Century...

What exactly do the Democrats offer? And would your recognize the Democrats from say a Kenedy time frame?

All politicians are dogs! Just like Lawyers and used car salesmen.

It takes a Kool-Aid drinker like fff to believe Democrats are some kind of saviour. :roll:
 

TexasBred

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Good post fff-- and how true...Republicans have lost all the old core values of conservatives- fiscal conservatism, no nation building, keeping our noses out of other countries business, frugalty and effieciency in business, strong moral business practices, being what was the law and order party, etc. etc-- and thrown those all out the window...

And just what do the democrats stand for or promise?? Nothing. With the dems you're sort of like the new bride. You know you're gonna get it, you just don't know when or how much.

OT now post the Democrat platform from 100 years ago. Let's see what they had to offer.
 

redbrand

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Good post fff-- and how true...Republicans have lost all the old core values of conservatives- fiscal conservatism, no nation building, keeping our noses out of other countries business, frugalty and effieciency in business, strong moral business practices, being what was the law and order party, etc. etc-- and thrown those all out the window...

And the new Republican party of today bases most of their thinking around the extremist fundamentalist social values- and they have been using these to get or keep a following- much of which is part of the evangelical Pentecostalism that has became the base of the party- and which has scared some old and many young away from the party...


:agree: The Republican party of today is a confounding creature, in my opinion. A return to the old core values would likely invigorate the party by bringing those who have been disillusioned back into the fold, and it would better represent the values of most mainstream conservatives, including myself. :wink:
 

backhoeboogie

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fff said:
Nobody said liberals were pure. And that's why YOU lose. When Sanford demanded that Bill Clinton resign as President because of the sex scandel, he gave up ANY right to stay on as governor of SC when he diddled a woman not his wife. That's why it is sooooo funny when a Republican is caught with his pants down.

I must be really confused. My understanding is that Sanford resigned his RGA position. Clinton did not resign anything. SC residents are in a panic because they are going to have a gay leader when he resigns as governor.

Sanford was on the news fessing up. Not once did I hear him lie with, "I did not have sex with that woman." or imply she was a liar and insult her integrity etc. She does not have to provide a dress stain to set the record straight.

How can you possibly make a comparison. Sanford came clean that he was a cheat. Clinton proved he was a liar (and a cheat) and Monica proved it. Oh - and he did not resign anything.
 

Texan

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I don't care who Sanford screws - as long as it's somebody in the penitentiary. Because if he really used taxpayer money to finance his trips to see his girlfriend, he's a THIEF.

Employees (elected officials) in positions of trust that STEAL from us need to start paying the price with some jail time. NOT just paying the money back if/when caught.
 

fff

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aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
fff said:
Nobody said liberals were pure. And that's why YOU lose. When Sanford demanded that Bill Clinton resign as President because of the sex scandel, he gave up ANY right to stay on as governor of SC when he diddled a woman not his wife. That's why it is sooooo funny when a Republican is caught with his pants down.

I have family values; everyone has family values. Dems and liberals just don't go out and set their family values up as political policy. As long as they continue to do that, the left will be happy to laugh and point when one of them falls from grace. And they will.

It amazes me that right wingers will continue to fall for the old Republican "family values" line when, one after another, it's plain that the actual Republican politicians don't believe it! They've been jerking you guys around for YEARS and you just continue supporting them. They had complete control of the government for years. Did they outlaw abortion? No. Did they outlaw gay marriage? No. All they did was TALK about them to get YOU to the polls and vote for them. And it worked; apparently still is working. It's a sad commentary on the IQ of the right wingers. :roll:

Good post fff-- and how true...Republicans have lost all the old core values of conservatives- fiscal conservatism, no nation building, keeping our noses out of other countries business, frugalty and effieciency in business, strong moral business practices, being what was the law and order party, etc. etc-- and thrown those all out the window...

And the new Republican party of today bases most of their thinking around the extremist fundamentalist social values- and they have been using these to get or keep a following- much of which is part of the evangelical Pentecostalism that has became the base of the party- and which has scared some old and many young away from the party...

I read an article the other day that commented on the same thing you did-
Why when the Republicans controlled both Congress and the White House did Congress not outlaw abortion and gay marriage? Their answer was that they didn't want to- they never will-- because they would then lose the current main theme of their party- a couple of the only things they have left to fearmonger and hatemonger with and stir their masses (guns are #1)... And now with a failed economic direction they led the country into- and seemingly no direction to lead to- or leadership-- their shock jock radio cult leaders are looking for every tidbit they can grab onto to make people forget about the Oil wars, $ Trillions sent to GW's sandpit, the Bush Bust, etc. etc...

A few months back I posted the Republican Platform of 1908- 100 years ago- and you could look at that- and the current Republicanism- and you wouldn't recognize them as the same party....Back then progressive wasn't thought of by Republicans as being a dirty word- the Republicans were the party that wanted to move into the 20th Century....Now Republicans are the ones that think we should stay in the 20th Century or on the issue of their extreme social fundamentalism- move back into the 18th or 19th Century...

What exactly do the Democrats offer? And would your recognize the Democrats from say a Kenedy time frame?

All politicians are dogs! Just like Lawyers and used car salesmen.

It takes a Kool-Aid drinker like fff to believe Democrats are some kind of saviour. :roll:

I don't care about Dems from the Kennedy era, though I voted for him AND LBJ. Dems ARE the saviour compared to what dregs of society just moved out of the White House.

I don't believe politicians are dogs. Most of them are motivated to actually serve the public, like policemen, firemen, soldiers and sailors. And I applaude them for that. You're just PO-ed because YOUR politicans (those Conservative, family values guys) have made a fool of you.
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
Good post fff-- and how true...Republicans have lost all the old core values of conservatives- fiscal conservatism, no nation building, keeping our noses out of other countries business, frugalty and effieciency in business, strong moral business practices, being what was the law and order party, etc. etc-- and thrown those all out the window...

And the new Republican party of today bases most of their thinking around the extremist fundamentalist social values- and they have been using these to get or keep a following- much of which is part of the evangelical Pentecostalism that has became the base of the party- and which has scared some old and many young away from the party...

I read an article the other day that commented on the same thing you did-
Why when the Republicans controlled both Congress and the White House did Congress not outlaw abortion and gay marriage? Their answer was that they didn't want to- they never will-- because they would then lose the current main theme of their party- a couple of the only things they have left to fearmonger and hatemonger with and stir their masses (guns are #1)... And now with a failed economic direction they led the country into- and seemingly no direction to lead to- or leadership-- their shock jock radio cult leaders are looking for every tidbit they can grab onto to make people forget about the Oil wars, $ Trillions sent to GW's sandpit, the Bush Bust, etc. etc...

A few months back I posted the Republican Platform of 1908- 100 years ago- and you could look at that- and the current Republicanism- and you wouldn't recognize them as the same party....Back then progressive wasn't thought of by Republicans as being a dirty word- the Republicans were the party that wanted to move into the 20th Century....Now Republicans are the ones that think we should stay in the 20th Century or on the issue of their extreme social fundamentalism- move back into the 18th or 19th Century...

What exactly do the Democrats offer? And would your recognize the Democrats from say a Kenedy time frame?

All politicians are dogs! Just like Lawyers and used car salesmen.

It takes a Kool-Aid drinker like fff to believe Democrats are some kind of saviour. :roll:

I don't care about Dems from the Kennedy era, though I voted for him AND LBJ. Dems ARE the saviour compared to what dregs of society just moved out of the White House.

I don't believe politicians are dogs. Most of them are motivated to actually serve the public, like policemen, firemen, soldiers and sailors. And I applaude them for that. You're just PO-ed because YOUR politicans (those Conservative, family values guys) have made a fool of you.

No politician can make a fool of me, because I think they are all dogs, and I do not think any Christian can actually be a politician. How can you make the decision to bomb and kill people and be a Christian. That being said someone has to make those decisions so we elect people that are willing to do those things, but they do not hold my religious nor family values.

I believe 99.9 % of politicians are ego driven and no way come close to my beliefs. All I hope for is that they accidentally vote for some things that better serve America and hopefully protect my core values in the process.

You are a biased idiot that sees good in crooks and finds fault in those that actually have some values!

I do not believe politicians who talk Religion or family values, I do not believe TV evangelist, and I do not believe Politicians like Al Gore that blow smoke up everyone's butts about Global Warming. It is weak minded sheep like you that follow these idiots and trust one side over the other!

Just like you trust now that Obama is not at fault for gas prices even though you use to complain about Bush and that it was his fault. That right there shows how ignorant and blinded you are... baaaa baaaaa says fff!
 

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