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Another rancher losing grazing rights--in NM

Faster horses

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http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/04/12/feds-seize-familys-ranch-property-owners-fight-government-land-grab/


When Kit Laney answered a knock on his door Saturday, law enforcement officers from the U.S. Forest Service handed him a piece of paper announcing his Diamond Bar Ranch in southwest New Mexico would be shut down Wednesday and his 300 head of cattle grazing there would be removed – one way or the other.

Other Forest Service officials were busy nailing similar notices on fence posts along the highway and informing neighbors that after Feb. 11, they should not attempt to enter the Diamond Bar property.

Laney was not surprised. He knew someday there would be an on-the-ground confrontation to enforce a 1997 court ruling which says his cattle are trespassing on federal land. That day has arrived.

Laney insists the land in question belongs to him; the Forest Service says it belongs to the federal government. So far, the federal court is on the side of the Forest Service. But Laney is not willing to throw in the towel and give up the land that has been in his family since long before there was a U.S. Forest Service.

Moreover, in New Mexico, there is a “brand law” that says, essentially, no cattle may be sold or transported out of state without approval from the State Livestock Board.

Local sheriff Cliff Snyder has notified the Forest Service and other state and federal officials that even though the Forest Service has a court order authorizing the confiscation of the Diamond Bar cattle, they “cannot be shipped and sold without being in direct violation of NM Statute.”

His memo also says “I intend to enforce the state livestock laws in my county. I will not allow anyone, in violation of state law, to ship Diamond Bar Cattle out of my county.”

Last hope for ranchers?

Kit and Sherry Laney are one of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of ranching families who are being squeezed off their land throughout the West. This case has the potential to erect a barrier to further expansion of federal land takeovers in the West or to erase the last hope of retaining ranching as a part of Western culture in the United States.

Both ranchers and federal officials are watching with great anxiety as the conflict moves toward resolution.
 

Steve

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the federal government, should not own land, beyond what is absolutely needed.

the taking of land by a stroke of the president's pen needs to stop ..
 

hypocritexposer

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Steve said:
the federal government, should not own land, beyond what is absolutely needed.

the taking of land by a stroke of the president's pen needs to stop ..

Steve did you read some of my posts about Federal ownership? Land was supposed to be turned over to the states, after they become a state. That ended soon after the "West" gained statehood. There is no reason Nevada is supposedly 85%, federally owned.

And now they are allowing foreign corporations to use the land??? For some reason, solar electricity generation, and atv destruction of natural resources is considered "so all citizens of the US can enjoy", more so, than food production. :???:

There is something wrong, when costly energy production, based on the fallacy of Global warming, is used as a reason to throw food producers off the land, so foreign corporations can profit and Politicians can get their kickbacks.

Where is OWS, when it comes to saving the turtles?

All this range land should be turned over to the states, as it was intended, and if BLM, and Forestry, want to be paid for management, then let the graziers pay the state/local government and let the Feds. collect their management fees from those state/local governments that chose to purchase their services.
 

Steve

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and if BLM, and Forestry, want to be paid for management

I've seen the management of federal lands up close...

so how much does it cost to post keep out signs and let the place go to weeds, brush and look like hell? (or at least it will when the next fire starts)..

I say get the prisoners in jail out putting up the signs and mowing the weeds down and planting native grass and we could lay off most of the over educated, over paid federal pricks..
 

Faster horses

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Steve said:
and if BLM, and Forestry, want to be paid for management

I've seen the management of federal lands up close...

so how much does it cost to post keep out signs and let the place go to weeds, brush and look like hell? (or at least it will when the next fire starts)..

I say get the prisoners in jail out putting up the signs and mowing the weeds down and planting native grass and we could lay off most of the over educated, over paid federal pricks..

That's a great idea, Steve. The Mt. Dept of Corrections tried that with Mt. State prisoners once, a long time ago............the unions raised hell..........
 
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Steve said:
and if BLM, and Forestry, want to be paid for management

I've seen the management of federal lands up close...

so how much does it cost to post keep out signs and let the place go to weeds, brush and look like hell? (or at least it will when the next fire starts)..

I say get the prisoners in jail out putting up the signs and mowing the weeds down and planting native grass and we could lay off most of the over educated, over paid federal pricks..


:lol: :lol: :lol: Your comment reminded me of that kid Rubio (or Stupidio or whatever) that used to post on this site wanting to hunt rattlesnakes and thinking we could take care of all the Bangs and wolf problems by fencing all the buffalo and wolves into Yellowstone Park :roll: .... :wink:

He/you/they have absolutely no idea of what they are looking at... I can take you to area's less than 20 miles from where I live- that look as slick as a greased frying pan... Areas that are used by Ag colleges/Universities as examples of overgrazing- areas at the conference of the Milk and Missouri Rivers where prior to the BLM/Government setting up allotments the cattle barons left all their cattle to drift to for the roundups-- areas where old pictures show grass belly high to a tall horse- but after years of overgrazing and then years of rancher/government development (including seeding, dikes, rotational grazing, no grazing, etc.- in some places it would be great to see some weeds....

Again I offer the invitation to any of you "experts" that whine and beech and use all you energy to chastise me to come out and take a look at some of this country.........
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
and if BLM, and Forestry, want to be paid for management

I've seen the management of federal lands up close...

so how much does it cost to post keep out signs and let the place go to weeds, brush and look like hell? (or at least it will when the next fire starts)..

I say get the prisoners in jail out putting up the signs and mowing the weeds down and planting native grass and we could lay off most of the over educated, over paid federal pricks..


:lol: :lol: :lol: Your comment reminded me of that kid Rubio (or Stupidio or whatever) that used to post on this site wanting to hunt rattlesnakes and thinking we could take care of all the Bangs and wolf problems by fencing all the buffalo and wolves into Yellowstone Park :roll: .... :wink:

He/you/they have absolutely no idea of what they are looking at... I can take you to area's less than 20 miles from where I live- that look as slick as a greased frying pan... Areas that are used by Ag colleges/Universities as examples of overgrazing- areas at the conference of the Milk and Missouri Rivers where prior to the BLM/Government setting up allotments the cattle barons left all their cattle to drift to for the roundups-- areas where old pictures show grass belly high to a tall horse- but after years of overgrazing and then years of rancher/government development (including seeding, dikes, rotational grazing, no grazing, etc.- in some places it would be great to see some weeds....

Again I offer the invitation to any of you "experts" that whine and beech and use all you energy to chastise me to come out and take a look at some of this country.........

not sure who was "chastising you on land management.. unless you have a day job at the BLM..

but the fact is.. out here they do NOT manage land.. they put up corner signs and let it go..

and if you would put in a bit of thought and comprehension you could easily see that is what I was and am referring to..

and yet you attempt to insult me.. I am no expert, but I can tell the difference between weeds and native grass..


but then you say this..

but after years of overgrazing and then years of rancher/government development (including seeding, dikes, rotational grazing, no grazing, etc.- in some places it would be great to see some weeds....

think about it?

while I don't expect an apology.. I would at least think you are smart enough to realize what you wrote, is well comically ironic..
 

Steve

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Mike said:
I've seen the management of Federal Lands myself. It's a joke.

I would disagree Mike,. .a joke is funny .. what they did around here is sad to say the least, it would be criminal if it wasn't done by the government..
 

Mike

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Steve said:
Mike said:
I've seen the management of Federal Lands myself. It's a joke.

I would disagree Mike,. .a joke is funny .. what they did around here is sad to say the least, it would be criminal if it wasn't done by the government..

Watch it Steve, he'll call the authorities on you for being anti-government.
 
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