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anybody want to take on the challenge...

MoGal

Well-known member
Well, Karl Marx read the protocols of Elders of Zion and wrote the communist manifesto from it. He was also an illumined occultist and one of the committee of 300 members.

That was in a Doc Marquis you tube video, but I figure he should know.
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http://hyperhistory.net/apwh/essays/comp/cw29commi-fasci-nazi.htm
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Communism the government owned the businesses.... Germany had a fascist economy which allowed for private ownership of businesses but the government controlled who made what and how much of it ... it cut out the competition and they were able to set their own price.

Fascist economy proved very profitable and is why what our own government has done in the last five years.
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Read the part Totalitarian Regime vs Dictatorship
http://remember.org/guide/Facts.root.nazi.html

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this whole article is interesting.
http://www.studymode.com/essays/Soviet-Communism-National-Socialism-Similarities-Practice-65469.html

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http://www.studyworld.com/newsite/ReportEssay/History/European%5CSimilarities_and_the_Differences_Between_Single_Party_Rule-32846.htm
this is the difference between the two: Control of the economy and war time planning was a must for
both nations. A story likened to the fact that with
Communism you must give your cows to the government and
they give you milk back. With fascism, you got to keep your
cows and gave the milk to the government. Both systems were
command economies and state controlled. Contingency plans
were constantly drawn up and updated to fit new
circumstances.

Ok Hypo.... what is your understanding of the difference between the two?
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
MoGal said:
Ok Hypo.... what is your understanding of the difference between the two?


there wasn't much difference at all. they were both Marxist/Leftist. both collectivist, much like Islamist societies today.

Welcome to Global collectivism
 

MoGal

Well-known member
ahhh... I least I found it amusing that there is a left wing and a right wing...


Totalitarian Regime vs. Dictatorship
Totalitarian regimes differ from older concepts of dictatorship or tyranny. Totalitarian regimes seek to establish complete political, social and cultural control, whereas dictatorships seek limited, typically political, control. Two types of totalitarianism can sometimes be distinguished: Nazism and Fascism which evolved from "right-wing" extremism, and Communism, which evolved from "left-wing" extremism. Traditionally, each is supported by different social classes. Right-wing totalitarian movements have generally drawn their popular support primarily from middle classes seeking to maintain the economic and social status quo. Left-wing totalitarianism has often developed from working class movements seeking, in theory, to eliminate, not preserve, class distinctions. Right-wing totalitarianism has typically supported and enforced the private ownership of industrial wealth. A distinguishing feature of Communism, by contrast, is the collective ownership of such capital.

Totalitarian regimes mobilize and make use of mass political participation, and often are led by charismatic cult figures. Examples of such cult figures in modern history are Mao Tse-tung (China) and Josef Stalin (Soviet Union), who led left-wing regimes, and Adolf Hitler (Germany) and Benito Mussolini (Italy), who led right-wing regimes.

Right-wing totalitarian regimes (particularly the Nazis) have arisen in relatively advanced societies, relying on the support of traditional economic elites to attain power. In contrast, left-wing totalitarian regimes have arisen in relatively undeveloped countries through the unleashing of revolutionary violence and terror. Such violence and terror are also the primary tools of right-wing totalitarian regimes to maintain compliance with authority.
 

Mike

Well-known member
Either way, it takes a high percentage of "useful idiots" to carry out the plan.

Those "useful idiots" are the cramped innercity masses and a few ignorant "rurals" who lend creedence to a movement they really know nothing about.

What we need is a program to transport high numbers of the inner city inhabitants to rural areas & move those rural idiots to the inner cities so they can see the mindsets of each societal ill.
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
Mike said:
Either way, it takes a high percentage of "useful idiots" to carry out the plan.

Those "useful idiots" are the cramped innercity masses and a few ignorant "rurals" who lend creedence to a movement they really know nothing about.

What we need is a program to transport high numbers of the inner city inhabitants to rural areas & move those rural idiots to the inner cities so they can see the mindsets of each societal ill.

Bingo. I'd be all for sending rural idiots to the big cities for them to get a taste of how the other side lives. I suspect the liberal popoulations of such states as Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Montana, etc, while they dream of joining hands with their "brothers" and singing We Are The World, have no clue what the future holds for them.
 

MoGal

Well-known member
Whitewing said:
Mike said:
Either way, it takes a high percentage of "useful idiots" to carry out the plan.

Those "useful idiots" are the cramped innercity masses and a few ignorant "rurals" who lend creedence to a movement they really know nothing about.

What we need is a program to transport high numbers of the inner city inhabitants to rural areas & move those rural idiots to the inner cities so they can see the mindsets of each societal ill.

Bingo. I'd be all for sending rural idiots to the big cities for them to get a taste of how the other side lives. I suspect the liberal popoulations of such states as Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Montana, etc, while they dream of joining hands with their "brothers" and singing We Are The World, have no clue what the future holds for them.

YEP, sad isn't it? My mom kept telling me, "You know I have not found one person who voted for Obama" and I told her, "Mom, Missouri did NOT vote for Obama, those swing states did and they're a bunch of idiots."
Obama didn't campaign in MO... he told us in 2008 the midwest clings to its guns and religion. Perhaps he's found out now there's more than just the midwest that clings to its guns.
I keep hoping those "useful idiots" will wake up..... I've been waiting for 8 years now and while many are more alert than they were back then, I'm not convinced the majority are.

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Most people want to believe their elected and unelected officials have their best interests at heart. People will believe heinous acts by government officials might occur because of negligence, or selfishness, or by criminal acts; but, no one wants to believe their government officials have a specific agenda designed to destroy the lives of its citizens. To believe this is to stay up all night, every night, worrying about whether you might be the next target.

Normal, everyday Germans during the time of Adolf Hitler found themselves in the same quandary. Despite the fact that Adolf had publicly published Mein Kampf , in which he told the Jews and others he was going to murder them all, most Jews refused to believe. They found all sorts of excuses to not believe. When the killing began in earnest, and many non-Jewish Germans came face-to-face with some of the evidence, most of them refused to even consider the possibility that such murder on such a scale could ever take place. Even German citizens living in close proximity to the mass murder facilities refused to even believe that the smell of burning human flesh that was pouring forth from the chimneys 24 hours per day could possibly be human. They discounted the sightings of countless railcars going to these facilities full of people and leaving empty. Just before the end of the war, when the Allies broke the story of such atrocities, one German woman wrote to her friend that "someone should tell Adolf of these terrible things; he surely does not know"!

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1345.cfm
 
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