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Are we No longer a Christian Nation?

iwannabeacowboy

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I seperated this so you can digest it.


Christianity crosses any governmental border. It is not a reason to be lawless, but in fact Christians are called to be lawful up to the point of sinning against God.

The lady you quoted is misguided and it is apparent that she is attempting to mold the biblical story to her world view and not her world view to her faith. That can be a problem for anyone.

But it is not okay to use the faith as a tool to promote lawlessness and anarchy.

Christianity would not condone breaking the law for material gain.


The difference in conservatives vs progressives are many. But your desire to destroy capitalism and key to this is importing the masses of dependents is polar to lawfulness and a means to bring the majorities standard of living down. Conservatives actually care about the children here and in other countries and desire to raise all's standard of living by exporting capitalism and justice. It is the only sustainable means of spreading wealth. One is consistent with our laws and one is not.
 

Mike

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kolanuraven said:
Mike said:
OT wrote:
Under the law that Clinton signed in 2000 and GW added to and again signed in 2008-- we are by law required to give these unaccompanied kids from noncontiguous countries refuge and humane treatment until they can have their case come before an immigration judge... (And according to some of what I read on the Bush add-ons they must have legal representation too- which is what the ACLU is taking to court )....

The Wilberforce Act defines the kids protected by it to be "Trafficked" Victims.

The overwhelming majority of the kids coming in now do not meet that definition. Not even close.


How do YOU know that?

Because I read the Wilberforce Act and it's successions.
Article 3, paragraph (a) of the Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons defines Trafficking in Persons as the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation. Exploitation shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the removal of organs.
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Traveler said:
So where does this whole escalation end? Hundreds of thousands? Millions? Infinity? What's a good Christian number? :roll: When the already established welfare queens start fighting for what's rightfully theirs? :lol:


I asked 0T the same question. I bet he doesn't see it. Kinda like I bet kola doesn't see this.

Why stop with the Americas when their are children far worse off in Africa, Asia and Europe.
 

loomixguy

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I can't vouch for KooKoo as to what type of Christian she may or may not be, but by her own posts here throughout the years, she is 200% antisemitic.

Bless her heart.
 

Mike

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Mike said:
kolanuraven said:
Mike said:
OT wrote:

The Wilberforce Act defines the kids protected by it to be "Trafficked" Victims.

The overwhelming majority of the kids coming in now do not meet that definition. Not even close.


How do YOU know that?

Because I read the Wilberforce Act and it's successions.
Article 3, paragraph (a) of the Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons defines Trafficking in Persons as the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation. Exploitation shall include, at a minimum, the exploitation of the prostitution of others or other forms of sexual exploitation, forced labour or services, slavery or practices similar to slavery, servitude or the removal of organs.

bump
 

iwannabeacowboy

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loomixguy said:
I can't vouch for KooKoo as to what type of Christian she may or may not be, but by her own posts here throughout the years, she is 200% antisemitic.

Bless her heart.

Oh, you don't have to vouch for her. She's made her position known.

ALL religions were created for control and gain power over people.

It's the reason they exist today. Yes, they have morphed over the ages and cultures but it's a pure control mechanism

So by her own testimony, she would use it for power and control only. Which is what she is trying to do with it in this thread. Control those who disagree with her.

Anyone with much reasoning and any kind of familiarity with the doctrine would be able to dismantle her arguments completely. Which is the reasoning of posting and running.

When she thinks she has something, like 0T, they stick around.
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Gary Johnson (2012 Libertarian candidate for President) shared a link.

Regardless of the policy issues involved with the thousands of kids arriving at our southern border, is this the image of America that we want the world to see?


Tea Party Candidate, Protesters Besiege Bus Of YMCA Campers Mistaken For Migrant Kids

Published July 16, 2014/
Fox News Latino

They swore they thought that the campers were undocumented immigrants.

A group of Arizona protesters and a tea party congressional candidate opposed to the housing of Central American migrant children at a local academy surrounded a yellow school bus full of what they thought were the undocumented kids.

Turns out that the young children on the bus were not only American citizens, but they were from the local YMCA.

Following a warning from Pinal County Sheriff, Paul Babeu, that Sycamore Canyon Academy would be sheltering some unaccompanied minors who have crossed the Southwestern border illegally, demonstrators on both sides of the issue converged Tuesday on the school about 40 miles northeast of Tucson.

There they waited for the supposed busload of immigrant kids after being inspired by the July event in Murrieta, Calif., that forced three buses of immigrants to turn back.

"Bus coming in,” tweeted Adam Kwasman, a state representative and tea party member who is seeking the Republican nomination for Arizona's 1st Congressional District, according to The Los Angeles Times. This is not compassion. This is the abrogation of the rule of law."

When the bus pulled into the school, protesters, reporters and television crews descended upon it and, depending on who you asked, were either terrified or made the children laugh at the strange event unfolding outside the bus’s window.

"I was able to actually see some of the children on the buses, and the fear on their faces,” Kwasman told local media reporters. This is not compassion."

One reporter informed the state representative that the children were not migrants, but YMCA campers from the Marana Unified School District and that the kids on the bus were smiling and snapping photos on their phones.

Kwasman eventually backed off, apologizing for his remarks and removing his earlier tweets.

"Last tweet not the bus of illegal immigrant children. Thank God," he added. "I apologize for the confusion. That was my error.”

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2014/07/16/tea-party-candidate-protesters-besiege-bus-ymca-campers-mistaken-for-migrant/

I have to agree with Mr. Johnson- how do we ask all these other countries to take in and humanely treat refugees- especially refugee children coming out of all these war torn and strife/poverty areas- when our own supposedly good "Christian" folks in this country are fighting so hard to turn them away... :???:

Is this the Christian "compassion" image we/you want to portray to these/your children or the rest of the world... :???:

Is this the Christian beliefs you were taught to follow... :???: Or are we no longer a "real" Christian country and use the Christians beliefs only as an excuse when issues suit us... :???: :wink:

Now don't you feel like an idiot after you find out the truth? :roll:
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Oldtimer said:
Andy Borowitz

Unfortunately, we live in a world where saying "Children should not be killed" can lead to a bitter political argument.


What children are you talking about? The ones drowning or dying in the desert because liberals don't care if they live or die, but just want to liberalize the conservative states. Or do you mean the other millions of kids liberals fight to have killed before they're even given a chance?
 

Mike

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iwannabeacowboy said:
Oldtimer said:
Andy Borowitz

Unfortunately, we live in a world where saying "Children should not be killed" can lead to a bitter political argument.


What children are you talking about? The ones drowning or dying in the desert because liberals don't care if they live or die, but just want to liberalize the conservative states. Or do you mean the other millions of kids liberals fight to have killed before they're even given a chance?

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! That had to have stung!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink:
 

Traveler

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Here's a picture of a room full of illegal immigrant "children". Seems the definition of children has changed.

http://www.redstate.com/2014/07/07/these-arent-the-droids-errr-children-youre-looking-for/
 

Traveler

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A little eye opener for the "Are we still a Christian Nation" statement/question. Burying our heads in the sand and pretending we won't be affected by this holocaust will have consequences.

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/iraqi-archbishop-i-have-lost-my-diocese-to-islam-you-in-the-west-will-also-become-victims-of-muslims/
 

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