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Are you a rightwing extremist? DHS thinks you are!

hypocritexposer

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WASHINGTON – A newly unclassified Department of Homeland Security report warns against the possibility of violence by unnamed "right-wing extremists" concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power, restrictions on firearms, abortion and the loss of U.S. sovereignty and singles out returning war veterans as particular threats.

The report from DHS' Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines right-wing extremism in the U.S. as "divided into those groups, movements and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups) and those that are mainly anti-government, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803


If you oppose any of the following, you could qualify for being profiled as a potential dangerous "Right-wing Extremist":

The United Nations
Free Trade
Gun Control
The violation of Posse Comitatus
The Federal Reserve
The Income Tax
The Ammunition and Accountability Act
A possible Constitutional Convention
The North American Union
Universal Service Program
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)
Abortion
Illegal Immigration
Fear of foreign regimes
Fear the loss of manufacturing jobs to China, India
Disgruntled Veterans

I liked this one in particular, it reminds me of OT!

(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremists were concerned during the 1990s with the perception that illegal immigrants were taking away American jobs through their willingness to work at significantly lower wages. They also opposed free trade agreements, arguing that these arrangements resulted in Americans losing jobs to countries such as Mexico.

Or this one, that defines Rightwing Extremists, as being separate from "law-abiding citizens"

(U//FOUO) Open source reporting of wartime ammunition shortages has likely spurred rightwing extremists—as well as law-abiding Americans—to make bulk purchases of ammunition.

(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to focus on the economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and construction sectors, and home foreclosures

Here's the Homeland Security report:

http://images.logicsix.com/DHS_RWE.pdf
 

hypocritexposer

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Looks like there may be a couple of strikes against us all.

Even the liberals that spoke/speak out against Bush policies, their names are probably still on "the list"
 

hypocritexposer

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I didn't save the link to the site I found it on.

Obviously one of the many law enforcement agencies it was distributed to, released it.

Why not try googling the link, Kola says it only takes 20 sec.
 

Texan

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IF this article is true, this report should be disturbing to everybody. One example from the article, referring to the report:

"It also suggests the election of an African-American president and the prospect of his policy changes "are proving to be a driving force for right-wing extremist recruitment and radicalization."

That seems to me to be lumping together people who are concerned about the President's race and people who are only concerned about his policy changes.

This would serve to discredit those of us who are opposed to his policy changes by putting us in the same group with those who are opposed to the President based solely on his race. VERY disturbing.

IF this is true, I'd like to know who authorized this report - as well as who authored it.

Everyone needs to be sure to read the entire article at the link hypoctritexposer provided:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803
 

Steve

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The United Nations
We should improve the UN's effectiveness by putting them and their headquarters in the "middle" of the conflicted zone..
The United Nations should be "rotated" to country's that need it.. start with Haiti, for the first 4 year term and then North Korea ect..

Free Trade
I am for Free trade... as long as it is "fair Trade" as well..

Gun Control
It is a "right"

The violation of Posse Comitatus
unfortunately as mush as I see our need for Military border security.. there is a fine line where it violates the act. but if done correctly we can have secure borders and our rights..

The Federal Reserve

We need a strong independent federal reserve.. while I understand why some "fear" the power an independent reserve has, sometimes people shouldn't mess with something they don't understand..

would you rather congress control our money, interest rates? and how banks lend ? seems to me that congress's meddling got US where we are today

The Income Tax
why give politicians more money to waste?

The Ammunition and Accountability Act

I am all for access to ammo and accountability for your actions.. but that's not what the act is about..

A possible Constitutional Convention

we should have one.. start with term limits for Fed offices.. no reason a person should spend their life on the hill,. . two terms and your done.. if you can't go higher, go home..

The North American Union

great idea.. lets start by taking over Mexico..


Universal Service Program

? not sure what they mean so "sometimes people shouldn't mess with something they don't understand.. "

Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)

we should do this it is a great idea,.. start with tagging the illegal immigrants first..

Abortion

I will never be "for" abortion,.. could never understand why people are "for" abortion.. so put my name on the "will always be against abortion list".. and use permanent ink.. as I am not changing my mind on that issue..

Illegal Immigration

start with getting they're DNA, eye scan, and face and finger prints.. and then tag them with RFID and send them to the Falklands,


Fear of foreign regimes

why fear them.. if they act up, send Hillery to talk to them... if they act up after that,, she can treat them like Bill..

Fear the loss of manufacturing jobs to China, India

Stop buying China and India's crap and business will stop sending the Jobs overseas..


Disgruntled Veterans

never did like the word,.. "disgruntled'.. if you not disgruntled are you gruntled? what the hell does gruntled mean.. ?

and we're vets,.. not happy stoned prissy sassed hippies sitting around singing koom by ya.. .. it was often a tough life, so we might have a few pissed off days where we get a little steamed about the assholes in charge of the great country we served, if that puts me on your damn list then make sure mine is at the top nad in bold print, and that my every word is recorded as you might learn something and see how stupid you darn list is ..
Hope that covers it..
 

Steve

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kolanuraven said:
Well, this is load of crap cause by this....I'm a right winger!!! :roll: :roll:

not just this list, but OT said you were a rightwing extremist for your' go in with guns ablaze stance on the pirate hostage issue.. so you've made several lists lately,.. and this isn't the first time either, you have a disturbing history of crossing over on issues, and not just a little.. :roll: :roll: :wink:

Maybe if Hoppy and his clan actually read more then the first few sentences in your posts, they could see how "conservative" you really are.

hell,.. compared to independent OT your a real rightwingnut~fanatic~zealot..
 

kolanuraven

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Steve said:
kolanuraven said:
Well, this is load of crap cause by this....I'm a right winger!!! :roll: :roll:

not just this list, but OT said you were a rightwing extremist for your' go in with guns ablaze stance on the pirate hostage issue.. so you've made several lists lately,.. and this isn't the first time either, you have a disturbing history of crossing over on issues, and not just a little.. :roll: :roll: :wink:

Maybe if Hoppy and his clan actually read more then the first few sentences in your posts, they could see how "conservative" you really are.

hell,.. compared to independent OT your a real rightwingnut~fanatic~zealot..


WOW...you really know how to make a girls day, don't ya???
 

hypocritexposer

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reader (the Second) said:
Actually hypocrit, you appear to have found the link in WorldNews Daily. That's the link you gave in your OP and I followed it and it links to the URL of the document. It claims that the document is declassified but the notices on the bottom of the page say it is not for public release.

No actually, I found it on the link I posted, the Police discussion board. There was no story to it, and then I found it on WND, so I copied and pasted the some of the story from WND, and the link.

Sometimes my quotes are from different sources within the same post.
 

hypocritexposer

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Actually hypocrit, you appear to have found the link in WorldNews Daily. That's the link you gave in your OP and I followed it and it links to the URL of the document. It claims that the document is declassified but the notices on the bottom of the page say it is not for public release.

What do you think of having your rights trampled on? Reading this document, it looks like being a Conservative (or just disagreeing with Obama's agenda), now brings you the attention of DHS, and the 1000's of Police organizations across the US.

Is it any wonder why a Police Enforcement officer would post this on a Police discussion board? He/she obviously believes in the Constitution more than the Obama administration.

Now maybe that officer got the link from WND, I don't know, there was no story with it on the Discussion board.

But I doubt you will see this on any MSM, just yet!

Here's the link again

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118348

You obviously didn't like the message, you're attacking the messenger again!

If you really want to start putting the pieces of this Socialist puzzle together, read HR1388, it's in the Senate now, I believe.

I'll start a new thread about it,
 

kolanuraven

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reader (the Second) said:
OT will tell you that FBI and others keep an eye on potential domestic disgruntled groups.



Oh man, they've got to be all over this site then cause we seem to have'em all here!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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As for my rights being violated, you all went on and on about how it was fine for Bush and Cheney to be wiretapping phone calls of citizens because you had nothing to hide.

And how did you feel about it? How do you feel now that Obama is expanding those powers?

So you are defending profiling, based on Religious beliefs, Constitutional beliefs, Political Beliefs or anything that is not a Liberal Belief?
 

hypocritexposer

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reader (the Second) said:
Do you speak German or what hypocrit? We only capitalize nouns in English in limited cases. I speak a little of 5 languages, and yes German is one. Is my capitalization bugging you?

Do you think that law enforcement should ignore the David Koresh and Timothy MacVeigh types who rant and rave about the evil government? No, but do it without infringing on the Constitutional Rights of the 99.9%, that you mention in the next point.

For every 999 who are just curmudgeons, there is 1 who is dangerous. Find them and arrest them,don't put out warnings to watch the 999, you'll miss the 1

How much experience do you have in law enforcement? Not at Liberty to say!

You have no problem with this if a Republican administration does it LOL. Any Republican that is "for" anything like this, is not a true conservative, they are more of a Liberal, and I am speaking out against those people too?
 

backhoeboogie

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kolanuraven said:
Steve said:
kolanuraven said:
Well, this is load of crap cause by this....I'm a right winger!!! :roll: :roll:

not just this list, but OT said you were a rightwing extremist for your' go in with guns ablaze stance on the pirate hostage issue.. so you've made several lists lately,.. and this isn't the first time either, you have a disturbing history of crossing over on issues, and not just a little.. :roll: :roll: :wink:

Maybe if Hoppy and his clan actually read more then the first few sentences in your posts, they could see how "conservative" you really are.

hell,.. compared to independent OT your a real rightwingnut~fanatic~zealot..


WOW...you really know how to make a girls day, don't ya???

The folks on this side of the fence are much less radical. Come on. Have a cup of coffee with us.
 

hypocritexposer

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No, I was not attacking the messenger. I was just wondering which media outlet found and made public a document that expressly states that it is not to be made public. Just interested in how they determined that it was "declassified" with those specific notices on it.

Maybe it's not authentic? Maybe you could check with some of your friends for us.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
It did not occur to me that it was not authentic. I assumed that someone received the document and shared it with someone in the media. Probably someone in law enforcement, from the wording of the notices.

Reader you should always doubt these types of things. Don't believe everything you read. Research them for yourself.

Maybe this is just a "fake", written by some Right Wing Extremist, trying to create the very things that it warns against!

You have described your friends as being much more knowledgeable and important, than mine will ever be!
 

backhoeboogie

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kolanuraven said:
reader (the Second) said:
OT will tell you that FBI and others keep an eye on potential domestic disgruntled groups.



Oh man, they've got to be all over this site then cause we seem to have'em all here!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

These in this forum are pretty mild. Go hang out at a coffee shop, dominoe hall, or feed store. Just be careful and don't express any support for the left while you are in those locales.

Now if you are at the barber shop and the lib media comes on with the Obama rhetoric, it might get a little noisy in there. You might hear a few words that would make a sailor blush
 
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