He is the one that said no description was given and NOT to read anything into his post's :roll:  He did not answer when I asked him if he could ID any cattle for his insurance agent in case of theft and never recieved any reply so I have no clue if he has any ID for his own records. I did think it odd that he changed his ID practices(branding) because of mud :roll:  If you are going to bring yourself to a public place to prove your point you need to bring proof not theory. I guess I need to go read up on the initial story and see if anything has been cleared up. I want to confirm that he had the names of the sellers they bought calves from since he said they did not raise any to cloud the number of calves bought and sold.